Satan’s modus operandi.

[Suhar]

[SIZE=medium]Satan’s modus operandi.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Just recently realized what is the tool with which Satan controls humans. He does not have to give something to control a person, he just has to stop giving something he already does.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Just that simple!

All the days of your life one experiences oppression, depression, dissatisfaction.... where does it all come from? It comes from Satan. Then one comes across some kind of sin, sinful behavior and... wow! …all that pressure is momentarily lifted. Person feels awesome, released and starts thinking ... it feels so awesome, and natural, I must be "born this way!" Deeper and deeper into the sin he goes chasing that naturally free feeling which now comes at the higher and higher price, of more and more heavily sinful behavior.

One can find another "thing", another behavior, another sin that makes you feel good. Satan gladly trades one sin for another, only God truly sets free.[/SIZE]

 

[This Vale Of Tears]

But don't you think we give Satan too much credit? The epistle of James says that when we sin it's because we're enticed by our inward desire. It's not that Satan doesn't have a role in the prevalence of sin in the world, but one of the biggest foibles we humans are guilty of is escaping personal responsibility. The devil doesn't make us do anything. We do things because we want to.

 

[Suhar]

What is going on here? I cannot quote, I cannot cut and paste text in. Am I banned or something?

 

[This Vale Of Tears]

What is going on here? I cannot quote, I cannot cut and paste text in. Am I banned or something?

Right-click on the quote button and open a new window.

 

[Suhar]

Right-click on the quote button and open a new window.

Still cannot figure out why I cannot cut and paste. It is kind of a long one I sent you PM.

 

[aspen]

Satan is merely a cautionary tale.....

Our false selves are our worst enemies

 

[Suhar]

Number one lie Satan tells is that he is not real, he does not exist. You fell for it.

But don't you think we give Satan too much credit? The epistle of James says that when we sin it's because we're enticed by our inward desire. It's not that Satan doesn't have a role in the prevalence of sin in the world, but one of the biggest foibles we humans are guilty of is escaping personal responsibility. The devil doesn't make us do anything. We do things because we want to.

Finally figured out why I could not cut and paste!

We want to do things because it feels good to do them.

The reason why you do not understand what I said is probably because you never experienced total absence of and total freedom from that “pressure”. To you God is God of the book, God whose Word is to be studied and obeyed but not God to be experienced. You have to talk to your God through some old guy in Vatican. Not to brag in any way, shape or form…. Seek to experience God instead!

I noticed that if I stay in God’s presence I do not have that ever-present pressure I used to have and I do not want to do anything that would cast me out of God’s presence.
Now if I do feel that worldly pressure all over sudden I immediately stop and ask: “What did I do? What is it I did to make me loose God’s presence?” I ask that until God shows me. I repent, confess, God forgives me and I am back “in the light”. That is what I call it anyway, staying “in the light”. Those moments “in the light” were fleeing and rare but recently I realized that I can stay “in the light” all day! Every day! It is so awesome!

I get attacks trying to force me out of “in the light” state but it is getting easier to repel them. At times it feels like God is so close! Like He is on the other side of single pane window!
At times God removes that single pane and get to be in His presence for a little while. I live for those moments now! That is pretty much the only thing I live for anymore!

I do not know how much longer I can live like this but I do not care. I will take it one second at a time for as long as He decides.

God! The Creator of universe can be so personable, so close, and so intimate! He is outside of time so He has time for EVERYBODY! I am nobody special, just some guy, if God lets me be close to Him like that (me of all people?) then anybody can experience God!

It is not a mysticism of any kind or onset of insanity. This is what we were created to be! When I am in God’s presence everything is PERFECT! I can only describe it as state of absolute fulfillment, absolutely everything is absolutely perfect! Not overwhelming in any way, just PERFECT! This is what Adam lost and this is what, through Jesus, one can get back!

 

[FHII]

Suhar, do you have a bible reference for sayibg Satan's biggest lie is that he doe exist? That was an impor point of cs Lewis' screwtate letters. Dont get me wrong, I agree. But why is it so?

 

[Suhar]

Suhar, do you have a bible reference for sayibg Satan's biggest lie is that he doe exist? That was an impor point of cs Lewis' screwtate letters. Dont get me wrong, I agree. But why is it so?

You mean does not?

Not chapter and verse but it just makes sense. Satan can work in your life any way he wants without any interference from you because you refuse to believe he is there.

 

[aspen]

Our own senses tempt us without any help from anyone else

 

[Suhar]

Our own senses tempt us without any help from anyone else

You can choose to believe that but by doing that you make Satan’s job in you much easier. I prefer making God’s job in me easier instead.

 

[FHII]

Satan transforms himself into an angel of light. Obviously he doesn't want to be rdco. Second except for Jesus, cant think of any time he interacted with fallen man in a way he'd let himself be known. That is why I do think its true.

 

[Suhar]

Satan transforms himself into an angel of light. Obviously he doesn't want to be rdco. Second except for Jesus, cant think of any time he interacted with fallen man in a way he'd let himself be known. That is why I do think its true.

What did I or others that try to reply to you did to you that you want to cause them pain?

Do you realize that coherent statements are much less painful to read?

 

[aspen]

You can choose to believe that but by doing that you make Satan’s job in you much easier. I prefer making God’s job in me easier instead.

Actually, maintaining a proper view of Satan helps me remember that he is not omnipresent, omniscient, or omnipotent - nor is he my personal tempter. So many Christians out there are practically obsessed with Satan in their lives it is as if they have a personal relationship with him!

I choose to focus on my personal relationship with Christ and His people.

 

[Suhar]

Actually, maintaining a proper view of Satan helps me remember that he is not omnipresent, omniscient, or omnipotent - nor is he my personal tempter.

He is not omni- but he has a lot of helpers doing his work. Non-human helpers.

 

[aspen]

None of those helpers can read my thoughts or cause me to deny responsibility for my own sin - Adam and Eve were the first to deny responsibility by blaming the serpent - because of Christ in my life, I no longer blame serpents or demons or anyone else for my personal sin.

Besides......how pathetic are devils if their attention is captured by tempting people for centuries? I cannot think of anything less challenging - may as well play tic-tac-toe

 

[Suhar]

None of those helpers can read my thoughts or cause me to deny responsibility for my own sin - Adam and Eve were the first to deny responsibility by blaming the serpent - because of Christ in my life, I no longer blame serpents or demons or anyone else for my personal sin.

Besides......how pathetic are devils if their attention is captured by tempting people for centuries? I cannot think of anything less challenging - may as well play tic-tac-toe

Says you that they cannot read thoughts. From my experience they can read thoughts very well as long as those thoughts are worldly or sinful. What does it have to do with denying responsibility?

As for why they do it? Because they hate people. These human weaklings can go where they never will.

 

[aspen]

Says you that they cannot read thoughts. From my experience they can read thoughts very well as long as those thoughts are worldly or sinful. What does it have to do with denying responsibility?As for why they do it? Because they hate people. These human weaklings can go where they never will.

God knows our thoughts because he is all knowing - devils are not.

Blaming others for our sin is failing to take responsibility - humans do it all the time. Every time something bad happens we look for someone to blame rather than looking at ourselves. All drivers on the road are either idiots or maniacs, except us. We use the devil in the same manner - that is why he is often called a scapegoat.

Devils justify their actions. They are a warning for us to not imitate them or we will eventually be just like them - cut off from God.

I think you are giving devils far too much power and credit AND at the same time, you are holding yourself and the human race up on a pedestal - as if we are some prize for demons and a challenge for them.

Time is best spent practicing our sanctification by loving others rather than mistaking our own sensory desires for demons

 

[Suhar]

God knows our thoughts because he is all knowing - devils are not.

Says you again.

Still do not understand what does it have to do with blaming others? It is your fault when you fall into temptation if demons hear your thoughts or not.

 

[aspen]

Says you again.Still do not understand what does it have to do with blaming others? It is your fault when you fall into temptation if demons hear your thoughts or not.

Really? Cause when you get sick due to a virus, it is not your fault......your body is reacting to the virus. People who are victims of crimes are not at fault. If devils took advantage of our fallen state in order to destroy us, how is that our fault?

The sin in the Garden was disobedience and shifting the blame. In order to receive Gods forgiveness we need to accept full responsibility for our actions - not falling back on 'the devil made me do it'

Finally, I do not agree with you that devils are all knowing because they are not divine.