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John 1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
John 1:34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

One of the reasons for John's baptism was to identify Jesus as the son of God, on whom, Israel was to believe on for eternal life (John 1:12 3:16). John bore record that Jesus was the Son of God. Israel had to believe on the name of Jesus; for eternal life, they had to believe that Jesus was the Son of God, the Christ (John 3:18 20:31).

[Acts 1:5 KJV] 5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

John also was preaching that Jesus would baptize Israel with the Holy Ghost (Mark 1:8). Jesus in the above verse reveals that he was referring to Pentecost (Acts 2:1-4).

Acts 2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
Acts 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

On the day of Pentecost, Peter spoke to Israel of the promise of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call.

Peter commanded baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and the promise of the Holy Spirit.

[Acts 19:1-3 KJV] 1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples, 2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. 3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

John was baptizing for repentance for the remission of sins. This is what the disciples of Ephesus were baptized unto.

Acts 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

Israel was to repent, and believe on Christ Jesus.

Acts 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

These disciples were baptized after the manner that Peter was preaching to Israel at Pentecost in Acts 2:38.

Acts 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

Just as Peter preached, the disciples received the Holy Ghost.

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

These disciples, believing on Jesus, and being baptized, also spoke with tongues, just as Jesus said in Mark 16:17.

Acts 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:

Paul had knowledge of the law and the prophets. Paul also upheld the gospel of the circumcision, which Peter preached, and the commanded baptism. Paul ministered to Israel but would not preach his gospel to the believing remnant of Israel.

1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

John was sent to baptize, Paul was not (John 1:33).

Paul baptized because as long as Israel was promised the coming kingdom, baptism was commanded. Israel began to be diminished, and the coming kingdom was delayed, so Paul stopped baptizing. Romans 11:12

In the future, baptisms will be resumed, Israel will be restored and will enter the kingdom. Mark 16:15 Matthew 28:19 Luke 12:32
 

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Paul stopped baptizing. Romans 11:12

And yet Paul did baptize a few people:

1 Corinthians 1:14-17 - I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;
Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.
And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.

Jesus said: 'Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.' - Mark 16:16

Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. - Acts 2:38

Unless one wants to make an idol out of the Apostle Paul claiming ALL scripture not coming thru Paul should be ignored, then Christians need to be baptized in addition to being born again if they want to be saved.
 

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Paul stopped baptizing. Romans 11:12

And yet Paul did baptize a few people:

1 Corinthians 1:14-17 - I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;
Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.
And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.

Jesus said: 'Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.' - Mark 16:16

Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. - Acts 2:38

Unless one wants to make an idol out of the Apostle Paul claiming ALL scripture not coming thru Paul should be ignored, then Christians need to be baptized in addition to being born again if they want to be saved.
 

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And yet Paul did baptize a few people:
Yes even Paul was baptized after his conversion
There is no passage where why he did and then didnt baptize but there are possibilities for it
Paul was a Jew and would be familiar with baptisms especially John's baptism
Paul gave no offence to Jewish law....he took an oath...he circumcised Timothy
Paul did not get all his revelations from Christ at once
 

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Jesus said: 'Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.' - Mark 16:16
Jesus in Mark 16:14-15 told the eleven to go and baptize.....they started to obey this at Pentecost......the Gentiles were baptized in Acts 10

[Mar 16:17-18 KJV] 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

These signs above would follow those who believed and were baptized
They spoke with tongues at Pentecost and acts 10:48
They healed the sick Acts 5:15

The rest of these signs will be seen in the tribulation

This command to the eleven was stopped by their agreement in Galatians 2:9 but will resume again in the tribulation

This command in Mark 16:15 was to the eleven apostles not us,,,,we arent baptized and heal the sick
 

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This command in Mark 16:15 was to the eleven apostles not us,,,,we arent baptized and heal the sick

You are speaking for yourself, not for the actual Body of Christ . . . . it's sad to see some folks denying the Word of the Lord claiming His instructions are not for the Body of Christ which they actually are. You have your opinion and that's all that it is, your opinion.

This sort of carnal minded religious thinking is how the enemy gets believers to lay down and accept sickness and disease and it's all comes from seminaries that practice so called "critical thinking" meaning they accept the devil being critical (opposing) towards God's promises so the old devil can talk them right out of things the Lord wants the Body of Christ to have access to.

Matthew 28:19,20 - Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Jesus told them to go teach the nations what He taught them.

It's too bad that so many have been duped by the devil thru fake religious teachers to not accept what the Lord says in the New Covenant, just like devil used the pharisees and sadducees to lead the Israelites away from what God was teaching under the Old Covenant. Sad state of affairs indeed!
 

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1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

Paul's verse you posted..... is making the distinction between His knowledge of the GOSPEL given in "time of the gentiles" and what Peter had preached in Acts 2., which was repentance and water baptism.. that is not the Gospel given to Paul that we are to preach and teach.
So, Paul is showing us that this that Peter preached, in Acts 2, was "John the Baptist's" message to Israel, which of course makes sense as Pentecost is for the JEWS.

Why did Peter preach this "repent and be water baptized? Its because its all he knew at the time....as Paul was not yet called and given the Gospel, and sent to the Gentiles, and eventually to the Apostles themselves in Acts 15, to teach them.

So, Paul is not a water baptizer, because that is not Paul's Gospel, and it is not required for Salvation, as Salvation, is "Jesus on the Cross".

Salvation is "justification by FAITH".....in Christ....not "repent and get wet".

Paul stopped baptizing. Romans 11:12

Paul never stopped having converts water baptized.


Because..

Water baptism is a "figure" "symbolic" that is showing the old man of sin going into the grave, dead.... as going under the water......and rising again, up out of the water as "in Christ"... a "new Creation".
So, that is for every new Christian to experience, or any Christian who hasn't yet.......as their public confession of faith.
 

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John 1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
John 1:34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

One of the reasons for John's baptism was to identify Jesus as the son of God, on whom, Israel was to believe on for eternal life (John 1:12 3:16). John bore record that Jesus was the Son of God. Israel had to believe on the name of Jesus; for eternal life, they had to believe that Jesus was the Son of God, the Christ (John 3:18 20:31).

[Acts 1:5 KJV] 5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

John also was preaching that Jesus would baptize Israel with the Holy Ghost (Mark 1:8). Jesus in the above verse reveals that he was referring to Pentecost (Acts 2:1-4).

Acts 2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
Acts 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

On the day of Pentecost, Peter spoke to Israel of the promise of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call.

Peter commanded baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and the promise of the Holy Spirit.

[Acts 19:1-3 KJV] 1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples, 2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. 3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

John was baptizing for repentance for the remission of sins. This is what the disciples of Ephesus were baptized unto.

Acts 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

Israel was to repent, and believe on Christ Jesus.

Acts 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

These disciples were baptized after the manner that Peter was preaching to Israel at Pentecost in Acts 2:38.

Acts 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

Just as Peter preached, the disciples received the Holy Ghost.

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

These disciples, believing on Jesus, and being baptized, also spoke with tongues, just as Jesus said in Mark 16:17.

Acts 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:

Paul had knowledge of the law and the prophets. Paul also upheld the gospel of the circumcision, which Peter preached, and the commanded baptism. Paul ministered to Israel but would not preach his gospel to the believing remnant of Israel.

1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

John was sent to baptize, Paul was not (John 1:33).

Paul baptized because as long as Israel was promised the coming kingdom, baptism was commanded. Israel began to be diminished, and the coming kingdom was delayed, so Paul stopped baptizing. Romans 11:12

In the future, baptisms will be resumed, Israel will be restored and will enter the kingdom. Mark 16:15 Matthew 28:19 Luke 12:32
The Scriptures clearly present baptism as a sign of repentance and faith in Jesus, as commanded by Christ in Matthew 28:19 and echoed in Mark 16:16. However, it is not biblical to claim that Paul “stopped baptizing” because Israel was diminished or because the coming kingdom was delayed. Nowhere in Scripture does it state that baptism was to cease or that its administration was contingent upon Israel’s state or the timing of His kingdom. In 1 Corinthians 1:17, Paul explains that his primary mission was to preach the gospel, not to handle the administration of baptism, but this does not imply that he ceased baptizing believers when circumstances changed; rather, his focus was on proclaiming Christ so that faith would be established by God’s Word. Likewise, while Romans 11 speaks of a future restoration of Israel, Scripture does not teach that there will be a resumption of a different mode of baptism or that such an event serves as a sign for entering the kingdom. The gospel message remains clear: those who repent and believe in Jesus Christ, the Son of God, are to be baptized and receive the Holy Spirit as the promise of eternal life (see Acts 2:38–39). The Bible alone teaches us to follow Christ’s clear instructions without adding extrabiblical conditions or speculations.
 

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You have your opinion and that's all that it is, your opinion.
[Mar 16:14-15 KJV] 14 Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen. 15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

It is not opinion that Jesus gave only the eleven this commandment

[Mar 16:18 KJV] 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

Do you heal the sick? If not why not? You assert that Mark 16:14-18 is for you
 

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Matthew 28:19,20 - Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Jesus told them to go teach the nations what He taught them.
So you are saying Matthew 28:19-20 was commanded the twelve NOT you? Is this right?
 

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Paul's verse you posted..... is making the distinction between His knowledge of the GOSPEL given in "time of the gentiles" and what Peter had preached in Acts 2., which was repentance and water baptism.. that is not the Gospel given to Paul that we are to preach and teach.
So, Paul is showing us that this that Peter preached, in Acts 2, was "John the Baptist's" message to Israel, which of course makes sense as Pentecost is for the JEWS.

Why did Peter preach this "repent and be water baptized? Its because its all he knew at the time....as Paul was not yet called and given the Gospel, and sent to the Gentiles, and eventually to the Apostles themselves in Acts 15, to teach them.

So, Paul is not a water baptizer, because that is not Paul's Gospel, and it is not required for Salvation, as Salvation, is "Jesus on the Cross".

Salvation is "justification by FAITH".....in Christ....not "repent and get wet".
I agree with this
 

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Water baptism is a "figure" "symbolic" that is showing the old man of sin going into the grave, dead.... as going under the water......and rising again, up out of the water as "in Christ"... a "new Creation".
So, that is for every new Christian to experience, or any Christian who hasn't yet.......as their public confession of faith.
This is not scriptural
This is man made to support being baptized
We have no command from Paul to be water baptized
We are baptized by the Spirit .................. [1Co 12:13 KJV] 13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Israel was baptized for remission of sin..........Mark 1:4 Acts 2:38
 

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This is not scriptural
This is man made to support being baptized
We have no command from Paul to be water baptized

If you read Acts 8, we find Philip and the eunuch... and once the Eunuch trusted in Christ, He was water baptized.

So, its true that "water" is not a part of Paul's Gospel, but its also true that Paul supported water baptism once the person was born again.

If you read Acts 16:14-15, you'll find a gentile and her household ALL being water baptized, after Paul led them to Christ.
 

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It is not opinion that Jesus gave only the eleven this commandment

It is just your opinion. We are part of the same Body of Christ they were.

If we go with your opinion then the Body of Christ is not to go spread the Gospel which is what the devil is lying to people about which is where that "opinion" came from, the devil.

You assert that Mark 16:14-18 is for you

It is, and I have actually been able to not only walk in health and healing but to also share that with others as long as they are willing to accept God's Word and walk in it.

Some people do not accept God's promises and they get squat. Thank you for playing!

We have no command from Paul to be water baptized

We do from Jesus Who is Paul's boss.

Those that do not accept the teachings of Jesus are building their lives on sinking sand and in the end they'll end up someplace they never expected to go where it's very very hot and they are tormented.

It's too bad there are so many unbelieving "believers" among us. A sad state of affairs in deed.
 

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The Scriptures clearly present baptism as a sign of repentance and faith in Jesus, as commanded by Christ in Matthew 28:19 and echoed in Mark 16:16.
Water baptism was for Israel for the remission of sins
[Mar 1:4 KJV] 4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.
[Act 2:38 KJV] 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
 

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However, it is not biblical to claim that Paul “stopped baptizing” because Israel was diminished or because the coming kingdom was delayed.
There is no mention of Paul baptizing after Acts 19
I am not dogmatic in giving this as a reason I might be wrong however Paul never commanded water baptism in his epistles
 

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Scripture does not teach that there will be a resumption of a different mode of baptism or that such an event serves as a sign for entering the kingdom
[Mat 28:19 KJV] 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
I believe this verse will be fulfilled in the millennial kingdom where once again where believers in the kingdom will be baptized
 

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Nowhere in Scripture does it state that baptism was to cease
Israel was commanded to be baptized and Israel did fall
[Rom 11:11 KJV] 11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but [rather] through their fall salvation [is come] unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
If Paul did not command water baptism then who would be baptized if God turned unto the Gentiles and cast away Israel (Romans 11:15)
[Act 28:28 KJV] 28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and [that] they will hear it.
 

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If you read Acts 8, we find Philip and the eunuch... and once the Eunuch trusted in Christ, He was water baptized.

So, its true that "water" is not a part of Paul's Gospel, but its also true that Paul supported water baptism once the person was born again.

If you read Acts 16:14-15, you'll find a gentile and her household ALL being water baptized, after Paul led them to Christ.
That does not address saying "Water baptism is a "figure" "symbolic" that is showing the old man of sin going into the grave, dead.... as going under the water......and rising again, up out of the water as "in Christ"... a "new Creation"."
You wont find scripture to support this