Since when is health insurance a human right?????

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Ronald Nolette

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Can you imagine? For nearly 6,000 years mankind and governments have been living of violating this supposed human right and have not provided insurance to everyone!

Prior to the 1960's in America (with the advent of medicare and medicaid) far more people in America did not have health insurance than did! Seems we got along pretty well before that. Our government was not running trillion dollar deficits, we were not neck deep in federal debt.

Now I am not heartless and know that medical care is prohibitively expensive and can ruin people financially. It would be nice if we can find a way to help provide medical care for all! But it cannot be legally mandated by the federal government like the ACA does! Nor should we saddle our children, grandchildren, great grandchildren, and great great grandchildren with crippling debt either!

Listening to the socialists in this hearing for Judge Barret makes me ill! It is so troubling how deeply they lie and are not challenged! But what bothers me even more is the millions that believe these lies because they are ill taught and have learned to learn from 30 second sound bites!

I want her confirmed and boy, I need to repent! The anger and animosity in my heart for Sen. Shumer and most of the left in the Senate and House I am convinced gone past the point of being angry, but sinning not!

Not because Trump and the right are saints and boy scouts and girl scouts, but just the depths they will go to to overthrow our constitution on the basis of emotional appeals.
 
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Government should only insert itself where private enterprise can't or shouldn't get involved.

Medicare was introduced because seniors couldn't get health insurance...or insurance they could afford. And as a result no medical care either.
As a result medical insurance companies offered medicare suplimental policies. And away they went...
Then someone suggested that we grant medical care to the mentally insane and the indigents. (After all it was only humane)
And it was approved too.

But then...
The welfare and retirement roles expanded drastically. Those with chemical dependency (alcoholics) and etc were added to the roles. Regardless of moral failings or turpitude.

And the roles swelled even more.
Soon we will have 2 people receiving government benefits for one person working...I wonder how well that's going to work out.
 
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Government should only insert itself where private enterprise can't or shouldn't get involved.

Medicare was introduced because seniors couldn't get health insurance...or insurance they could afford. And as a result no medical care either.
As a result medical insurance companies offered medicare suplimental policies. And away they went...
Then someone suggested that we grant medical care to the mentally insane and the indigents. (After all it was only humane)
And it was approved too.

But then...
The welfare and retirement roles expanded drastically. Those with chemical dependency (alcoholics) and etc were added to the roles. Regardless of moral failings or turpitude.

And the roles swelled even more.
Soon we will have 2 people receiving government benefits for one person working...I wonder how well that's going to work out.

Our nations debt is the largest in the world! Between govt., private and govt. unfunded liabilities, we as a nation are $237,000,000,000,000. that is 237 trillion dollars or $718,718.18 for every man woman and child in America! Hope we can get a good interest rate to pay it back!
 

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Can you imagine? For nearly 6,000 years mankind and governments have been living of violating this supposed human right and have not provided insurance to everyone!

Prior to the 1960's in America (with the advent of medicare and medicaid) far more people in America did not have health insurance than did! Seems we got along pretty well before that. Our government was not running trillion dollar deficits, we were not neck deep in federal debt.

Now I am not heartless and know that medical care is prohibitively expensive and can ruin people financially. It would be nice if we can find a way to help provide medical care for all! But it cannot be legally mandated by the federal government like the ACA does! Nor should we saddle our children, grandchildren, great grandchildren, and great great grandchildren with crippling debt either!

Listening to the socialists in this hearing for Judge Barret makes me ill! It is so troubling how deeply they lie and are not challenged! But what bothers me even more is the millions that believe these lies because they are ill taught and have learned to learn from 30 second sound bites!

I want her confirmed and boy, I need to repent! The anger and animosity in my heart for Sen. Shumer and most of the left in the Senate and House I am convinced gone past the point of being angry, but sinning not!

Not because Trump and the right are saints and boy scouts and girl scouts, but just the depths they will go to to overthrow our constitution on the basis of emotional appeals.

Health insurance is not a constitutional right in the U.S., and I don't believe it should be considered a human right.
 
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Can you imagine? For nearly 6,000 years mankind and governments have been living of violating this supposed human right and have not provided insurance to everyone!

Prior to the 1960's in America (with the advent of medicare and medicaid) far more people in America did not have health insurance than did! Seems we got along pretty well before that. Our government was not running trillion dollar deficits, we were not neck deep in federal debt.

Now I am not heartless and know that medical care is prohibitively expensive and can ruin people financially. It would be nice if we can find a way to help provide medical care for all! But it cannot be legally mandated by the federal government like the ACA does! Nor should we saddle our children, grandchildren, great grandchildren, and great great grandchildren with crippling debt either!

Listening to the socialists in this hearing for Judge Barret makes me ill! It is so troubling how deeply they lie and are not challenged! But what bothers me even more is the millions that believe these lies because they are ill taught and have learned to learn from 30 second sound bites!

I want her confirmed and boy, I need to repent! The anger and animosity in my heart for Sen. Shumer and most of the left in the Senate and House I am convinced gone past the point of being angry, but sinning not!

Not because Trump and the right are saints and boy scouts and girl scouts, but just the depths they will go to to overthrow our constitution on the basis of emotional appeals.
I'm not watching, I'm just praying.

Much love!
 

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Our nations debt is the largest in the world! Between govt., private and govt. unfunded liabilities, we as a nation are $237,000,000,000,000. that is 237 trillion dollars or $718,718.18 for every man woman and child in America! Hope we can get a good interest rate to pay it back!
No one in Government looks to be bothered by such debt, do they ?

Here in QLD Australia the State Government is having an election this month and debt is not an issue anymore, nor will they tell what the figure is now.
Huge debt is a good thing all Socialist peddle in uni, schools, unions, you name it, so the morons swallow it all, because if you tell a lie enough simple minded dupes will just go along and believe it all. they see power in numbers and have been waring for many years to their ends to dupe all to be blind followers who only look around to there poor blighted peers for solidarity and love the power of such brain dead malice that sows the seed of self righteous grubs who can't see past their own nose, but the poor bastards will reap what they have sown.

We had a right wing Federal Government that got out of debt and the Socialist were going off their rocker about such claiming such to be stupid, but come 2008 this put Australia in a much better position to deal with the problems caused by the crash. not to mention when the Socialist got back in and the Leader claimed his gov would not spend like a drunken sailor, but when it got in it sure did spend like a total moron on half baked nonsense.

My constitution would not really let a Gov spend beyond it's means, unless it was like a business does in order to get ahead and better it's self into a position that it has the means to provide better service down the track. that's the means by all people should have, because if you don't such a one is classed as a delinquent or a degenerate or a moron, such just sponge off a system that will eventually lead all to become enslaved in debt.

Anyone who owes money puts ones self in a position of becoming a nigger or a slave to the lender in fact. Anyone who is worthy person in a community would be looking to the goal of setting yourself and your Nations Government to be in the position of having the power to be lending money in the future. but our society is deranged or has being led astray for many years.
The USA has no excuse at all for being in debt at all, it has had everything going for it, just like Australia has, but we have been sold down the drain by the Satanist. not to mention that there will be hell to pay down the future because of such degenerate squandering.

The Jews have always led Nations into debt slavery and that's why they have had such a shocking bad track record in history, where they were kicked out of every Nation that took them in. the Jew has no Grace for a start, so they have no true compassion on others and as too the so called Jews who claim to be Jews are Anti-Christ and with any Satanist they are only working to undermine all around them, I have seen it in business, they are only concerned with themselves getting rich and gaining power over others 24/7
 
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