Arnie Manitoba said:
I must inform you that the whole theory of monkeys and men and billions of years all comes from the pages of the evolutionist.
As I said earlier we have stepped into the devils evolutionary sandbox and we get a bit of grit in our eyes when we play there.
if you are implying that it is OK to use parts of evolution and leave some out ..... I dare say the hard core evolutionist would disagree with you.
Keep that up and you will get hammered by them as well
After iving it some thought Arnie I've come to this conclusion, people that choose to ignore science and believe in a young earth and universe are simply expressing their faith in a Creator.
People that choose to look at science and not allow it effect their faith or change what is believed in the bible but rather look and marvel at what science has shown to be true concerning the scriptures are in no way denying faith but are increasing faith because of evidence that supports the bible through science.
The big bang is the first case example it is completely compatible with "let their be light"
and here's a few other examples I'll copy and paste from some saved PDF files I have.
The patriarch Job was extremely wealthy—enjoying a wonderful family. Then tragedy struck. He lost his wealth. His children were killed and his wife deserted him. Then Job lay in excruciating pain, covered with sores from head to toe. He cried out to God for reassurance, and God replied with a reminder of His almighty wisdom, justice, love, and power. God conveyed to Job His dynamic logic in three questions:
“Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion? …Or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?” Job 38:31-32
The Pleiades: “Canst thou bind the sweet influence of the Pleiades?” Modern science has revealed that the seven stars of the Pleiades are in reality a grouping of 250 blazing suns all traveling together in one common direction. Concerning this cluster, Isabel Lewis of the United States Naval Observatory tells us: “Astronomers have identified 250 stars as actual members of this group, all sharing in a common motion and drifting through space in the same direction... journeying onward together through the immensity of space.”
From Lick Observatory came this statement of Dr. Robert J. Trumpler: “Over 25,000 individual measures of the Pleiades stars are now available, and their study led to the important discovery that the whole cluster is moving in a southeasterly direction. The Pleiades stars may thus be compared to a swarm of birds, flying together to a distant goal. This leaves no doubt that the Pleiades
are not a temporary or accidental agglomeration of stars, but a system in which the stars are bound together by a close kinship.” Without any reference whatsoever to the Book of Job, Dr. Trumpler announced to the world exactly what God said: “Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades?” In other words, Job, can you keep them bound together so that they remain as a family of suns?
Orion: “Canst thou . . . loose the bands of Orion?” The noted astronomer Garrett P. Serviss wrote about the bands of Orion in his book CURIOSITIES OF THE SKY.
“At the present time this band consists of an almost perfect straight line, a row of second-magnitude stars about equally spaced and of the most striking beauty. In the course of time, however, the two right-hand stars, Mintaka and Alnilam, will approach each other and form a naked-eye double; but the third, Alnitak, will drift away eastward so that the band will no longer exist.” In other words, every star in Orion is traveling its own course, independent of all the others. Thus, these stars that we see forming one of the bands of Orion are like three ships out on the high seas that happen to be in line at the present moment, but are bound for different ports, and all are journeying to different corners of the universe, so that the bands are being dissolved.
Arcturus: “Canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?” Garrett P. Serviss wrote: “Arcturus, one of the greatest suns in the universe, is a runaway whose speed of light is 257 miles per second. Arcturus, we have every reason to believe, possesses thousands of times the mass of our sun. Think of it! Our sun is traveling only 12
miles a second, but Arcturus is traveling 257 miles a second.” Charles Burckhalter, of the Chabot Observatory, added an interesting note regarding this great sun: “This high velocity places Arcturus in that very small class of stars that apparently are a law unto themselves... Newton gives the velocity of a star under control as not more than 25 miles a second, and Arcturus is going 257 miles a second. Therefore, combined attraction of all the stars we know cannot stop him or even turn him in his path.”
So you see Arnie even with out some of the embellishments made the simple observer can deduce
1) the book of Job can be proven to be written long before science could have ever confirmed these statement by God to Job
2) It doesn't compromise my faith in fact it increases it.
3) it totally compatible with the word.
Now If you want to junp up and down and call people that look at science with the eye of God as as Darwinist monkey lovers, that's your choice I guess.
Their are other facts that have only been found in the bible that have been found to be true, as mans understanding increases