Some Colorado Students Will Be Getting Satanic Books Soon

[Angelina]

Some Colorado Students Will Be Getting Satanic Books Soon
03-31-2016 Mark Martin ~ CBN News
Beginning April 1, the Delta County School District will provide students books from Freedom From Religion Foundation, the satanic temple, and Western Colorado Atheists and Freethinkers after the groups complained.
FFRF Co-president Dan Barker said the push to hand out satanic books happened in response to Gideon Bibles being distributed in a passive way to students while school is in session.
http://www.breakingchristiannews.com/articles/display_art.html?ID=17928

 

[Angelina]

If that were the case in re: to school policy, I would not be manipulated this way and Home School. :huh:
Parents should not need to put up with this kinda political maneuvering. Who doesn't want their kids to have the best education that they afford...but this is just ridiculous.

 

[StanJ]

This is the war we fight with the principalities and powers of darkness and we can't really expect to not be challenged when it comes to giving out Bibles excetera in the public school system. I would be quite fine with the public school system just teaching Scholastics and NO religion whatsoever. In my opinion it's up to Christian parents to educate their own children when it comes to the things of the Lord, and not leave it up to a school system, but by the same token if that school system is not going to allow Christian books, then it should not allow any religious books whatsoever.

 

[River Jordan]

This is what happens when Christians try and evangelize in public schools....other beliefs get wind of it and argue that they should be allowed the same access. And since we live in a secular, pluralistic society they are granted that access. As the FFRF stated, if it was up to them they'd rather see the schools not allow any outside religious groups access to students during the school day, but since the district was so accommodating to Christians, other groups have a right to do the same.

While I understand what the Gideons were trying to do, I think they need to have a better awareness of the situation they're creating.

 

[Angelina]

I don't think that Gideons have done anything out of the ordinary. There was a time where they were not allowed to do this and now they are. This may give access to other secular groups but the individual will have to make there minds up on their own. Just as any individual would do if presented with the gospel in any other arena. :huh:

 

[StanJ]

I don't think that Gideons have done anything out of the ordinary. There was a time where they were not allowed to do this and now they are. This may give access to other secular groups but the individual will have to make there minds up on their own. Just as any individual would do if presented with the gospel in any other arena.

I agree, but the whole point is that when you don't maintain the scholastic Integrity of the school system and let all kinds of philosophical points of view into the system then there is bound to be conflict between them. In my opinion parents are responsible to teach their children their religious viewpoints, no matter what they are, and the school system should not be the place for that to be done. Sadly just as in the case of sex education, many parents forego or ignore their responsibility in that regard and the school system seems to want to fill that void.

 

[Angelina]

I agree, but the whole point is that when you don't maintain the scholastic Integrity of the school system and let all kinds of philosophical points of view into the system then there is bound to be conflict between them. In my opinion parents are responsible to teach their children their religious viewpoints, no matter what they are, and the school system should not be the place for that to be done. Sadly just as in the case of sex education, many parents forego or ignore their responsibility in that regard and the school system seems to want to fill that void.

I agree but that has not stopped the school system from over ruling parents where it comes to parent responsibilities. If Christianity does not step up then something else will, because the scholastic integrity of a school system is as good as the secular world that it stems from...JMHO

 

[River Jordan]

I don't think that Gideons have done anything out of the ordinary. There was a time where they were not allowed to do this and now they are. This may give access to other secular groups but the individual will have to make there minds up on their own. Just as any individual would do if presented with the gospel in any other arena. :huh:

What worries me is that had the Gideons not insisted they be allowed to distribute Bibles on school grounds, most of these kids never would have been exposed to Satanic books or some of the other literature that's being put out. I mean....look at these things! Showing a cartoon Bible groping a woman and calling it X-rated?

Why was it so important to the Gideons to distribute Bibles on government property? Was it just about winning or proving a point? If so, it's obviously backfired.

 

[Angelina]

What worries me is that had the Gideons not insisted they be allowed to distribute Bibles on school grounds, most of these kids never would have been exposed to Satanic books or some of the other literature that's being put out. I mean....look at these things! Showing a cartoon Bible groping a woman and calling it X-rated?

Why was it so important to the Gideons to distribute Bibles on government property? Was it just about winning or proving a point? If so, it's obviously backfired.

Have you seen some of the video games and cartoons that young people are exposed to now days? I think that the problem lies with the way that these parents have perceived things because they are the ones insisting on having irreligious items handed out as well, possibly as a way of balancing things out. What may have been just a matter of principle, has backfired and opened the door to demonic literature.

Please remember though, we live in a secular world anyway and the enemy does not like it when we start taking ground. He tends to come back with a vengeance but that does not mean that we as Christians should curl up in a ball somewhere in fear or retreat under threats of the enemy. The Apostles didn't retreat when they were being persecuted for bringing the good news to a lost and dying world ....so why should we??? :huh:

 

[StanJ]

I agree but that has not stopped the school system from over ruling parents where it comes to parent responsibilities. If Christianity does not step up then something else will, because the scholastic integrity of a school system is as good as the secular world that it stems from...JMHO

Indeed, if you let the school system just say everything that your kids are going to do without intervening then you basically become known as somebody who acquiesces to them and that's never a good thing.

 

[forrestcupp]

We have representatives from the Gideons come to our church from time to time. From what they tell us, they're not allowed on school property in this day and age. They have to stand on the edge of the property and hand out bibles there. Maybe that's just the state I live in, but it didn't sound that way. So if that's how it works, I don't see what is stopping anyone from standing on the edge of the property to pass out propaganda, as long as they're not breaking the law.

My opinion is that Jesus gave us a great commission to preach the gospel to all the world. Why should we cower and give up that commission every time a little controversy is stirred up? We were already warned by Jesus that the world will hate us because it hated Him first. Obviously, we need to use wisdom and do things with the right motives. But why should we just lie down and give up every time there is a little opposition?

I agree, but the whole point is that when you don't maintain the scholastic Integrity of the school system and let all kinds of philosophical points of view into the system then there is bound to be conflict between them. In my opinion parents are responsible to teach their children their religious viewpoints, no matter what they are, and the school system should not be the place for that to be done. Sadly just as in the case of sex education, many parents forego or ignore their responsibility in that regard and the school system seems to want to fill that void.

I agree about the religion part, but I actually don't have a problem with sex ed being taught in schools, as long as the parents take the time to guide their children in the right direction based on what was taught. Sure there is a lot of garbage taught in the world, but with the parents' guidance, you can eat the meat and spit out the bones. The reason I feel this way is because in reality, there are a lot of parents who aren't equipped to teach their kids about sex. It may come easy to you and me, but there are a lot of parents who aren't like us, and they need help.

I'm blessed enough to live in a school system where the sexual education program really hits the nail on the head. They strongly teach abstinence in a pretty amazing way. They take the time to explain in a clear and concise way all of the repercussions of having multiple partners and not waiting until marriage, not just physically, but they also address the mental and emotional consequences. They don't just teach about the consequences, but they also address the benefits of waiting. I was pretty amazed and pleasantly surprised when I saw what a good job they did.

 

[StanJ]

I agree about the religion part, but I actually don't have a problem with sex ed being taught in schools, as long as the parents take the time to guide their children in the right direction based on what was taught. Sure there is a lot of garbage taught in the world, but with the parents' guidance, you can eat the meat and spit out the bones. The reason I feel this way is because in reality, there are a lot of parents who aren't equipped to teach their kids about sex. It may come easy to you and me, but there are a lot of parents who aren't like us, and they need help.
I'm blessed enough to live in a school system where the sexual education program really hits the nail on the head. They strongly teach abstinence in a pretty amazing way. They take the time to explain in a clear and concise way all of the repercussions of having multiple partners and not waiting until marriage, not just physically, but they also address the mental and emotional consequences. They don't just teach about the consequences, but they also address the benefits of waiting. I was pretty amazed and pleasantly surprised when I saw what a good job they did.

I don't really have a problem with it either as long as they teach the stuff properly. My point was that many parents don't teach sex ed properly and that's why it ended up being taught in school. The same thing is probably true of religious education except that the school system decided to go in the other direction and got themselves out of teaching any type of religion. Better that they should have gotten out of both areas and just deferred to parents fulfilling their responsibilities to their children. Sadly, as you point out, many parents do not do that.

 

[River Jordan]

Have you seen some of the video games and cartoons that young people are exposed to now days?

Yeah, but that doesn't mean we go out of our way to make sure they see more junk.

I think that the problem lies with the way that these parents have perceived things because they are the ones insisting on having irreligious items handed out as well, possibly as a way of balancing things out. What may have been just a matter of principle, has backfired and opened the door to demonic literature.

From what I've read they were expecting to be granted exclusive access. IOW, they figured the school would have a "Christians only" policy towards literature distribution. The problem is, that's blatantly illegal and now....as you say....it's backfired and their kids are being exposed to anti-Christian and Satanic material.

Please remember though, we live in a secular world anyway and the enemy does not like it when we start taking ground. He tends to come back with a vengeance but that does not mean that we as Christians should curl up in a ball somewhere in fear or retreat under threats of the enemy. The Apostles didn't retreat when they were being persecuted for bringing the good news to a lost and dying world ....so why should we???

I appreciate your spunk, but we also have to be wise in what we do. We can't do things out of principle if the end result is something like this.

 

[michaelvpardo]

Doesn't make a whole lot of difference, in the end God wins.