Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

[Wrangler]

LOL!! I'm sorry, but I HAVE to laugh at this! I'm laughing because I'm planning on dying my hair TODAY. Not an unnatural color.

Self deception. Only undyed hair is natural.

 

[Wrangler]

Submission works BOTH ways. And that IS biblical!

Finally, you admit that the wife is supposed to submit to the husband!

 

[Wrangler]

I suppose there is a risk to submitting, that you just never get to do things your way again. Especially if your husband is cartoonishly selfish and tyrannical and feels the need to control every last detail of your life.

Obviously, no intelligent woman would pick such a man.

Many man-hating feminists ask where are all the REAL men. The answer is simple, waiting for the ladies to let them lead.

Too many women fail to grasp that Proverbs 14:1 A wise woman builds her home, but a foolish woman tears it down with her own hands is not talking about a shelter but her family, starting with her man. It takes tremendous character to trust someone, to turn let go of control. As Christ followers, both men and women are required to do this. Contrary to the lie that @Mink57 repeatedly tells, wives are required to give up control in unequal ways to a man.

Feminism is full of lies and one is the power of femininity; when a woman lets her man know that she trusts him to lead, he will move heaven and Earth to not let her down - good men anyway, which is the kind of men most women marry. The last thing most husbands want to do is let their wife down. Feminism encourages women to have standards that are impossible to meet, which leaves everyone miserable.

 

[MA2444]

This is a funny vid of extreme feminists abandoning feminism when they have to pay alimony. You can't make this stuff up! LOL

I watched a couple videos recently and in this one a husband/wife team had some sort of construction business. The husband had to go out of town for a month so he let his wife stay behind and manage the business. As soon as he leaves a pretty big size job came in and all of the regular crews were busy and would not be able to do that job.

Her and her girlfriends are the feminist type and can do better than any man at anything! What a great idea, I'll hire an all female crew to do this big job and show my husband and help my girlfriends at the same time! So she hired a femail crew, (wait for it....!)

Every single one of the women quit the job before noon. It was too hard for them and they said I aint doing this! I broke a nail, wah. Lol. She got the company in financial trouble because some of those jobs have deadlines for phases of the job and stuff.

Remember that song in that old movie? ...Anything you can do I can do better, I can do anything better than you! A man & woman sang the song in the movie, lol. Not all the time!
Women do need men. Just like it makes things a lot easier for a man when a woman "helps".

 

[Wrangler]

Clearly, @Mink57 has not triumphed over feminism. It still has her soul.

 

[MA2444]

Clearly, @Mink57 has not triumphed over feminism. It still has her soul.

She probably got hurt pretty deeply.

I looked for that video about the construction company wife who botched things by hiring an all girl crew and I didnt find it. But I did find some videos what said that, womens college degrees mean nothing to the hiring market. It means nothing and she graduted but is not working in her field, she had to get to get a waitress job, lol. And other videos saying many companies have stopped hiring women. Because they have too many demands and entitlements that they dont want to waste time on that stuff and besides, Men are better programmers and Men are better in Math. ??

Wow. Give em an inch, and they take a (you're fired!) walk towards the door. Maybe next time, lol.

Do you think it's mean to women to joke around about this stuff? I dont think it's wrong. It's all in fun for the most part and besides, women (feminists) are always cracking on Men and putting them down so what's the difference? Men dont cry when women do it. So what that she said that,. there aint no politically correct way to play battle of the sexes, lol!

 

[Wynona]

Women taking after Eve in being more prone to deception was not Paul simply being sexist. When women take control of churches, deception quickly follows which is Satan's main weapon since he could not defeat God by force.

A good example is the church today, how it caters to making people feel good in their sin rather than teaching them to reject and hate sin.

The things we see today with feminism and transgenderism are good examples. Men still have a strong idea in the culture that being a man means honoring duty and responsibility---especially to your family.

Women have lost sight of what a woman is at all or what a woman should do. Matt Walsh asked, what is a woman? Many women refused to answer because they didn't want to exclude trans women.

Plus, Ive witnessed feminist ideals give way to something even baser than a push for women's rights... a pure hedonistic narcissism. Women who neglect their children, who leave their homes to "find themselves", who are never wrong, never take accountability, who are lazy and entitled. They believe women should have more in a vague sense, but their lifestyle is just purely self centered.

What should women be doing? Loving and living for themselves, is their answer. Parying, sleeping around, being terrible Moms and acting like its cute and funny. Embarrassing their kids with their online porn accounts, causing their kids to be targets for bullies.

Women get away with more evil today because of the halo effect, which is assuming women are naturally virtuous. But if you coddle and placate anyone for too long, they become spoiled monsters and women are no exception.

These women have strong opinions about men at times but lack the discipline a man needs to be considered a bare minimum man. The scary part is knowing women who have locked themselves into narcissm and seem incapable of stopping.

 

[Wynona]

 

[MA2444]

Plus, Ive witnessed feminist ideals give way to something even baser than a push for women's rights... a pure hedonistic narcissism. Women who neglect their children, who leave their homes to "find themselves", who are never wrong, never take accountability, who are lazy and entitled. They believe women should have more in a vague sense, but their lifestyle is just purely self centered.

That's exactly what happens.

 

[MA2444]

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Regarding #2, I fugured this out a long time ago. Everything you do and say to your significant other weither builds them up or tears them down. Even to the choice of words, tone and body language, it all says something and the message is always received, lol.
So why not build each other up? Competitive? There is no competition between husband and wife. There's Husband and Wife, completion. It was an ephiniy for me the day I realized this.

When one of the two continually tears the other down it (in a practical sense!) takes us to #7
I was able to recognize that when she was nagging, nag nag nag, that, that was actually a good sign. It said that she is unhappy about something and wants to fix it, so taking the thought to it's extreme...As long as she is still nagging, there is hope and everything is vasically ok, except the minor thing that's she's upset about right now. The louder she yells, you can be sure that on the flip side of that emotion...she loves you just as deeply as she was screaming!

Thhe time to worry is when she stops screaming and shows no emotion. She's now considering her opyions and weighing the odds...!

Oh my gosh, the things Men think about when she is in the other room yelling about something!

 

[Wynona]

Regarding #2, I fugured this out a long time ago. Everything you do and say to your significant other weither builds them up or tears them down. Even to the choice of words, tone and body language, it all says something and the message is always received, lol.
So why not build each other up? Competitive? There is no competition between husband and wife. There's Husband and Wife, completion. It was an ephiniy for me the day I realized this.

When one of the two continually tears the other down it (in a practical sense!) takes us to #7
I was able to recognize that when she was nagging, nag nag nag, that, that was actually a good sign. It said that she is unhappy about something and wants to fix it, so taking the thought to it's extreme...As long as she is still nagging, there is hope and everything is vasically ok, except the minor thing that's she's upset about right now. The louder she yells, you can be sure that on the flip side of that emotion...she loves you just as deeply as she was screaming!

Thhe time to worry is when she stops screaming and shows no emotion. She's now considering her opyions and weighing the odds...!

Oh my gosh, the things Men think about when she is in the other room yelling about something!

So nagging. waa a good sign? Or the lesser evil?

 

[MA2444]

So nagging. waa a good sign? Or the lesser evil?

It was one of her languages. And I recognized that, the louder she yelled, the more she really loved me! The more she wanted everything to be just right like in her vision of how it should be. I thought it was cute until she stopped yelling. And...she was gone within a year from then.

I knew something was up and I took to approaching her to have talks and communicate and plan what's next for us and all sorts of stuff like that. And she wouldnt. She would talk but when she talked she really didnt say anything meaningful and I felt it coming before it got there. And I was right. She had just hit 40 and the last 10 years went by sofast...this was her last chance to still be in marketable shape and attractive and desireable to men. She was about to hit the wall. Then she started working out, quit drinking soda pop and started wearing makeup for the first time in her life! She was putting herself on the market right before my eyes! Geez. I knew she wasnt coming back when she left.

Now dont you dare go start nagging your Husband to try to demonstrate your Love for him! That was a special case and may not ring true for everyone! Lol.

 

[Wrangler]

This article is so funny. Perhaps an example of RADICAL feminism. It’s so extreme in its absurdity.

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[Wrangler]

Cultural Marxists claim if you repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth. Just another lie. A perversion of Evolution. A lie does not “evolve” into the truth – no matter how effective indoctrination and brain washing may be.

While I abhor the adage ‘all things in moderation,’ I recognize and apply the axiom that all things that exist have limits. These mantras appeal to a women’s tendency to succumb to the sin of coveting, e.g., you do not want more and better, right? What are the proper limits of these mantras? Let’s examine the lies of 4 Feminist Mantras.

1. Don’t Need A Man
2. It’s Woman’s Right to Choose
3. A Man Has to Live Up To His Responsibilities
4. Don’t Settle

1. Don’t Need A Man

This contradicts the original way feminists pitched their evil ideology to men. With various “waves” of feminist evolution, becoming ever more shrill and man-hating, I’m old enough to recall the assertion of how feminism is good for men; that with women working, it takes financial pressure off the man.

In this rendition, men were still acknowledged – and dear I say, respected - as the head of house. The bread winner, yes. But this burden could be lightened by the fruit of feminism. So, feminism would assist couples having a happier life and better relationship because a man would not be so financially stressed. The mantra that today’s women “Don’t Need A Man” is the exact opposite.

From assisting a man to displacing a man entirely. This mantra destroys the meaningful relationship completely. The reason I go to the market for a hammer is that I need a hammer. If woman “Don’t Need A Man” why is she with him?

It reduces the highest relationship to the most superficial. Predictably this philosophical position turns feminists into whores, rebelling against the truth and embarking on the licentious “slut shaming” campaign to make feminists feel better about their whoredom. This explains why a new mantra is emerging, “Body count doesn’t matter.” The language ‘body count’ reveals the predatory nature of today’s man-hating feminists. From needing a man to needing 100’s of men and they are still not satisfied, sexually or any other way with their relationships with men! Way to go feminism.

After my divorce, I used this as a filter. If a woman could not admit needing a man in general, she will not admit needing me, in particular. And there is no reason for me to be with her. It remains a foundational principle. My current wife lets me know she needs me all the time.


2. It’s Woman’s Right to Choose

The next 2 mantras are paired and perverted in the same way, extending from its abortion origins to all things.

This mantra implies 2 lies. 1st, it denies a man’s right to choose. That is, it denies man’s reproductive rights. You cannot claim equality while simultaneously only focusing on one sex.


3. A Man Has to Live Up To His Responsibilities

Again, you cannot claim equality while simultaneously only focusing on one sex. When the sex that is focused on is the man, no freedom to choose is acknowledged, only slavery of responsibility thrust on him without choice. At the same time, the woman has no responsibility.

It’s just as valid to say it’s a man’s right to choose and a woman has to live up to her responsibilities. Conditioned to be hypersensitive of female oppression, the mantra’s oppression jumps out at you when the sexes are reversed. No feminist dare express this equality!


4. Don’t Settle

Paradoxically, this mantra contradicts the ‘it’s a woman’s right to choose’ mantra. This mantra abrogates the enticing freedom of choice mantra. Reinforcing whoredom is the mantra prohibiting decision making, which is final. If you make a decision, it is final and that is settling. Here, she is commanded NOT to choose. The oppression of the evil ideology exposed.

The mantra refers to a feminist’s relationship with a man and seeks to leverage her man-hating to catapult this to all things (like the previous 2 mantra’s). No matter how good anything in life might be, a feminist is philosophically prevented from embracing it fully, from making it her own because … that would be settling.

This philosophy makes it impossible for a feminist to commit – to anything. Sure, this man might be a 1%er but what if a 0.1%er woos her? This undermines the social contract. Everything is unstable, temporary, subject to fracture at any time for any reason. Nothing of value can be built on such a foundation. This feminist mantra not only creates virtue-less women, it eliminates her moral agency, reducing her to a slave of her own whims and negotiating against herself.

 

[MA2444]

3. A Man Has to Live Up To His Responsibilities

Again, you cannot claim equality while simultaneously only focusing on one sex. When the sex that is focused on is the man, no freedom to choose is acknowledged, only slavery of responsibility thrust on him without choice. At the same time, the woman has no responsibility.

It’s just as valid to say it’s a man’s right to choose and a woman has to live up to her responsibilities. Conditioned to be hypersensitive of female oppression, the mantra’s oppression jumps out at you when the sexes are reversed. No feminist dare express this equality!

What a great write-up. No wonder any feminists are still posting, lol! Truth hurts for us all almost every time.

But as a man, living up to my responsibilities I never considered it a big deal. I wanted a family and so I had to get a job and provide, because that's the man's responsibility. Ok. It is a means to an end. And (I luckily realized this while still married) that a man's day does not end when he gets off work. That's when it really begins. The work all day was merely a means to an end, so she could have a place to call home. But now that the day has begun when he is home from work (!) no matter how tired he is, he has be with her and his family. To help, nurture, speand quaity time with, love her and be her knight in shining armor, and protect her and talk with her and consider her needs and wants and give them to her.

She hasnt come to the end of her day when the man gets home from work. Her day gets harder. Now she has to cook dinner and pick up after the husband and manage the kids in a becoming cluttered house again because daddys home and dropping his boots and socks where the lay and messing up the house that she spent all day on cleaning. And then she wants make love.
The man cant really say, I'm too tired honey. You better take care of her or someone else will. You better tell her you love her, or someone else will.

But she had a hard day and feels miserable so she's naggy at you and if you can, the man has to love her through that, and good enough so she is happy and refreshed by her mans presence.

She said What? She dont cook or clean unless I pay extra? She is independant and makes her own monsy selling her exposing herself on the internet? What man wants that girl, whom the whole world has seen?! If she is that independant to say anything even approaching that, then she doesnt understand what being a wife is supposed to be.
So fine she can pay her own bills and I'll help her pack her things. She said she would stay if I bought her a BMW....I'm gonna miss you honey!!

 

[Mink57]

I bet the first time that eve got pregnant that Adam had no clue why Eve's belly was swelling and getting bigger!

It's interesting that you brought this up. While SOME people believe that ancient people inherently knew how to have sex, those same ancient people may not have known that intercourse can lead to pregnancy. There were some cultures that believed that a woman can become pregnant by sitting in the moonlight during a full moon. Even in 2024, not all of the world is modernized. As late as the 1960s the some Aboriginal tribes believed that a woman got pregnant because she had been sitting over a fire on which she had roasted a fish given to her by the prospective father.

There are several theories (not ALL feminist theories) about when (and why) the rise of Patriarchy occurred. One of those theories explains that Patriarchy may have begun with the notion of fatherhood became more clear.

Also, notice in Genesis 4:1 that Eve said, "...I have produced a male child with the help of the LORD." No mention of Adam. Was it because they didn't know?

This was sent to me this morning by a 'man of interest' of mine.

Maybe he wondered if it was part of the curse for him falling?

Could be...won't discount that as a possibility.

On a more serious note, that's sorta what I asked earlier. If a woman can not be submissive to a man, then will she be submissive to God later on?

Being submissive to a man (her husband) is ONE thing. Submitting to God is something else. If my husband tells me, "Mink, I want you to rob a bank today!", am I supposed to 'submit' to him? Of course not! I'm of the belief that both men and women are to submit to God FIRST, and to one another, not only as a matter of marital status, but "out of reverence for Christ." By the same token, if my husband grabs my hand and says, "Let's have coffee outside this morning!" you BET I'll let him lead and 'submit' to him, even if I'm in the middle of doing dishes!

r will she think she is above God?

Hardly. I don't think that most women would have a problem submitting to their husbands IF their husbands were like Jesus because Jesus is more like the Father. Of course, some women might think they're above God. But so do some men.

The time for learning these things, not after we go to heaven!. This on earth is God's University of Love to teach us. So practice it.

Sorry didnt mean to butt in.

I agree!

 

[Wrangler]

If woman “Don’t Need A Man” why is she with him?

I forget to add a point to compliment what @Wynona said. Women can do things men cannot; namely, give birth. True. And men are needed to make a baby. And it is so much more than that! The term "significant other" speaks volumes that now has meaning that huband and wife used to.

The mantra is man-hating. It is said with hate. Foolish women reinforce the feminists who say this lie, e.g., "You go girl." What wise women should do in response to women telling themselves such a lie is to encourage them to address their resentment and bitterness, to forgive themselves for choosing bad men and the bad men who act according to their nature. And humbly learn from their mistakes, their sins and make choices based on different standards next time.

The manosphere talks of the men these foolish women pursue out of hypergamy or lust as Chad's or Tyrone's. Manosphere glossary. Many women today cannot help themselves. It's very sad.

What a great write-up. No wonder any feminists are still posting, lol!

Thanks! Just because something is great in theory does not mean it can hold up to practical scrutiny.


The one who states (her) case first seems right, until the other comes and examines (her).
Proverbs 18:17 (added for emphasis)

 

[Mink57]

No one said that. She is a help meet for him. He has seniority and has the last word in disagreements but she is not less than anything!

Nope. I don't believe that for a moment. It doesn't even make sense. After all, what if the husband's argument is wrong? What if it's selfish?
"Oh, o.k., honey. I'll 'submit' to you. If you REALLY want to be with those prostitutes..."

A lot of people out there are scummy, and their spouses may have NO IDEA what or WHO they married. What then?

Having 'seniority' doesn't necessarily mean having 'all the 'smarts'. Presidents, Kings, heads of armies, other heads of states, Captains of ships have advisors. But some of those 'heads' don't listen to those advisors because the power of being the 'head' goes to their head.

She provides...completion.

Completion? No. I believe that people are 'complete' as individuals. After all, is the nun or priest who never married "incomplete"?

Eve was taken out of Adam to be created. So when she walks back up to him and says I do...there is no less than present. There is completion present.

LOL! Eve never said, "I do." That's not even in the bible!

You cant ethically usurp Adams seniority and leadership on personal whims for yourself.

And YOU can't ethically claim Adam's "seniority and leadership" on personal whims for yourself, either. Let's not forget that Adam blamed both Eve AND GOD for his transgression. God...didn't buy it. Otherwise, why did God punish him...if He thought Adam was 'innocent'?

Adam threw both his wife AND God 'under the bus' for HIS choice. He COULD have said, "No!" to Eve. He COULD have smacked the fruit out of Eve's hand. He didn't. He PASSIVELY ate the fruit. Can't say, "Oh, well, he was 'seduced' by Eve." That's not even alluded to.

That's incorrect thinking and not biblical at all. It doesnt make the woman less, nothing wrong with being under authority and leadership. God created us for Himself so we can worship Him and bring glory to Him.

No bickering in the ranks!! Lol.

Nothing wrong with it? Would YOU want to be under "authority and leadership"...of a woman? Willing to BET you'd think there's something 'wrong' with THAT.

 

[Mink57]

I can agree with that. But letting the women run the household and even the purse strings is for during peace time. Women seem to like handling money and the man just wants a family, so money is just a means to an end. That was my view and it did turn out to be a mistake because it spoiled her.

Not all married men "just want a family." Money can be an important 'tool' for BOTH men and women, and a number of men want to control the purse strings. So, it's not a 'man' thing or a 'woman' thing. Some HUMANS simply want THAT much control.

And other things which come up, I want to eat at one place but she wants to eat at a different place. I cant count how many times she won I gave in and we ate where she wanted to. Or which movie to watch. Where do we go on a vacation. Who got to pick the destination? She did! We went to Vegas and had a great time. Didnt win much but enough to pay for the expenses of the trip and hotel and sent us home with $800 so that was a good choice!
But those are al peace time activities. If a serious situation comes up, we look to the senior for guidance. Yeah, that means the Woman looks to the man, and the Man looks to God. Scripture talks about being in agreement with the wife on certain things.

But you've described in 'submitting to one another', and not ONLY the woman 'submitting' to the man.

And no...in war time, wives weren't looking to their husbands for 'guidance'. Their husbands were overseas, and the wives went to work building and providing ammo, HOPING that maybe her husband would use one of the bombs she built to destroy the enemy. And no...not ALL of government back then consisted ONLY of men.

If a serious situation comes up, I don't look to my husband for 'guidance'. Sometimes, he'd have NO IDEA what to do, either. That's WHY we'd hash it out. And when we DO come to a conclusion, it's not because HE said, "Do it MY way." It will be OUR way. We BOTH decided.

What in the world is wrong with that? What is it that you would seek to do that is impossible to do if you were "submissive" to your man?

Oh gee, lemme think...well, my late husband was upset with me because I didn't make as much as HE did. I wanted to go back to school to get a 2 year degree. He didn't want that. HIS reason was that if I was in school, it would take too much time away from HIM (a.k.a. sex)

I 'submitted'. I wasn't 'allowed' to get more of an education so I could get a better paying job and contribute more financially to US. Meanwhile, he kept berating me because I didn't earn what he wanted.

Damned if I did, damned if I didn't.

 

[Mink57]

No. I like how you point out Jesus and the Holy Spirit. I consider their role a great reason why being a helper is not to be denigrated or disrespected. Jesus did indeed submit to the Father in everything. And the Father exalted Him back. He did not feel the need to grasp this for Himself. That is a lesson I had to learn.

But the Father GAVE Jesus some authority. And Jesus submitted to THAT.

Sorry....but I think that there are plenty of men who hear/read the word 'submission' and think, "Oh, GOODY! My wife has to do WHATEVER I TELL HER!' while ignoring what the Father is telling HIM.

No. But wives are to obey anyway. Why?

As I pointed out before, I'm not about to 'submit' to a man who doesn't submit to God.

The reputation of God's Word ...Titus 2:5.

1 Peter 3: 1-6 ---we can win our disobeying husbands to Christ without words with reverent and pure conduct.

Actions can win a husband toward Christ. Not necessarily nagging him to be a better person or be more spiritual. I can see in my own life that when I quieted down my criticism, my husband heard God more, and grew.

Paul seemed to have the opinion that ALL men were the same. That NO man would disobey God. Not even CLOSE to true, especially in modern society.

You've never been an abused woman, Wynona. At least, I don't think you have been. But once you're THERE, you start to question EVERYTHING, including the bible.

Thank you for asking.

All wives certainly do not deserve the love they crave. Yet it's still the right thing for a husband to do. Love his wife.

May be the 'right' thing. But even some Christian husbands and wives don't practice the 'right' thing.