Suing Founding Ministry to Retire Like Kings

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rockytopva

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We paid good money to see my niece through Liberty University. It has been sickening for me to see $15 million handed over to Jerry Falwell Jr so he can live like a king.


Now disgraced pastor Robert Morris asking his church for a similar retirement... "Morris, 63, resigned from the church last June after he was accused of sexually abusing a child during the 1980s for more than four years. The disgraced pastor has since been indicted in Oklahoma — where the alleged abuse occurred — on five counts of lewd or indecent acts to a child."

At least his church refused... "Southlake megachurch Gateway Church refused a request from Robert Morris asking for millions of dollars as part of his retirement after the now-disgraced pastor left in the wake of sexual abuse allegations, according to court filings Tuesday." - - Robert Morris asked Gateway Church for millions as part of his retirement. The church said no

These are not marks of Men of God!
 
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Pretty sick. Sadly, most of these colleges are just fronts for funnelling money into shady things like child sex rings. ORU is another ...there have been some former student who have spoken out about ritualistic activities in the basements during services.
 

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People should have researched Falwell Seniors ideology and background, and the university, before agreeing to send their kids there.

Junior is a trustee.

He has a right to the money.
 

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The children of Great men of God are seldom Christians but grew up in church and act like a Christian.

By John MacArthur

It is not uncommon for unbelievers to mask themselves as Christians. Unfortunately, it also is not uncommon for Christians to wear the world’s masks. Christians want to enjoy the world’s entertainment, the world’s fashions, the world’s vocabulary, the world’s music, and many of the world’s attitudes, even when those things clearly do not conform to the standards of God’s Word. That sort of living is wholly unacceptable to God.
 
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People should have researched Falwell Seniors ideology and background, and the university, before agreeing to send their kids there.

Junior is a trustee.

He has a right to the money.
Examples of American greed and of the Laodicean way.
 

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No. But you can think that.
I used to make drives to the Thomas Road Baptist Church and the Liberty University and enjoyed the ministry. After the Jerry Falwell affair and the University response I am totally ashamed and sickened.
 

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People should have researched Falwell Seniors ideology and background, and the university, before agreeing to send their kids there.

Junior is a trustee.

He has a right to the money.
I can see the disclaimer... Please know our leaders intend to live the rest of their lives as crooks and the most indecent of human beings. They have the right to live this way and use the tuition as they please.

Moral Majority? Sounds Immoral Majority to me! With no care of the flock!

28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. - Acts 20
 

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I can see the disclaimer... Please know our leaders intend to live the rest of their lives as crooks and the most indecent of human beings. They have the right to live this way and use the tuition as they please.

Moral Majority? Sounds Immoral Majority to me! With no care of the flock!

28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. - Acts 20
You don't know anything about Liberty University,Falwell's church,or that every IRS catalogued church or church education center with a 501c3 is a business.
 

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I used to make drives to the Thomas Road Baptist Church and the Liberty University and enjoyed the ministry. After the Jerry Falwell affair and the University response I am totally ashamed and sickened.
OK. So what?

Junior has a right to the settlement.

What?
You thought the scandal true?

Do you condemn Giancarlo Granda too?

You imagined he should slink off into the wilderness,wear a camel hair short,and eat locusts and honey and drink water till he dies poor?
 

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Knowing why God said...

For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the Lord: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word. - Isaiah 66:2

The love of power, money, and a wealthy retirement has made people terribly self centered!
 

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Knowing why God said...

For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the Lord: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word. - Isaiah 66:2

The love of power, money, and a wealthy retirement has made people terribly self centered!
And when it's false witness?

What of Giancarlo Granda?
 

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OK. So what?

Junior has a right to the settlement.

What?
You thought the scandal true?

Do you condemn Giancarlo Granda too?

You imagined he should slink off into the wilderness,wear a camel hair short,and eat locusts and honey and drink water till he dies poor?

What about care for the flock? A man who cares will have a burden for it until the end.How do we follow a man with no morality about him?
 

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OK. So what?

Junior has a right to the settlement.

What?
You thought the scandal true?

Do you condemn Giancarlo Granda too?

You imagined he should slink off into the wilderness,wear a camel hair short,and eat locusts and honey and drink water till he dies poor?
Example of a life of a man who cared... The last words of Robert Sayers Sheffey... 1902... Who departed this world in great sorrow. The Methodist were abandoning the camp meetings and revivals meetings of the 1800's and Robert fought the apathy of the times until they burnt his beloved Wabash Camp grounds to the ground and never rebuild it. The Cripple Creek camp grounds also disappeared at this time. A melancholy so deep as to silence his voice descended upon him. The thought that the camp grounds would never be rebuilt caused him indescribable despair. “Eliza, I have failed,” he would whimper without control at the most unexpected times to his beloved wife. “I have failed to live up to the great commission to the best of my ability. God has been so good to me and there is so much more that I should have done,”

And Robert Sheffey's last words...

“How long will the night be, Aurelius?”

“It isn’t night. Brother Sheffey – it is morning again.”

“Do my friends bear with me?”

“The same ones are here.”

Aurelius had said it was morning, but no sunbeams fell across his bed … Aurelius was surely wrong … it must be night, and it was getting chill. Both his feet were growing numb, and his eyelids could only be opened with his fingers.

“Dear Aurelius … I have not done all … I should have done for the . . . sweet L-Lord.”

“If you haven’t, Brother Sheffey, no man ever has,” Aurelius whispered.

“You all must promise me . . . all of you . . . that you will continue . . . continue the work. Somebody… somebody must carry the . . . load. Make the people like . .. crawling babes that know not a stranger . . . and, grab hold of each other … tell all who love me to .. to do that..”

“We will all do it,” Aurelius said.

“Do you … Answer me, Aurelius .. I can’t hear .. you … well ..."
 

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Jerry Falwell Jr is an example of the generation gone wrong... To retire as millionaires with the only care of us four and no more
 

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Jerry Falwell Jr.... My gosh what a corrupt and sickening man! I am ashamed!
 

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36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. - Matthew 22

A man with this kind of love is not going to sue... Period...
 

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Rumor and smear campaign.

Be ashamed you spread false accusations here.

Had Jerry Junior turned out like Jerry Senior and cared about the ministry I would not have had a problem with them being millionaires. Had he a heart felt ministry like creating a "Moral Majority" where we all gather round with a good set of Christian values... I would have stood behind him. John MacArthur may have been worth $15 million dollars, but he showed signs of caring for his work so I had not the problem with it. The first two commandments...

Love God
Love the Neighbor

A man who loves the ministry will hang in with it until his last breath. To accept $15 million dollars from a Christian University after trashing the name is to me ridiculous.
 

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Had Jerry Junior turned out like Jerry Senior and cared about the ministry I would not have had a problem with them being millionaires. Had he a heart felt ministry like creating a "Moral Majority" where we all gather round with a good set of Christian values... I would have stood behind him. John MacArthur may have been worth $15 million dollars, but he showed signs of caring for his work so I had not the problem with it. The first two commandments...

Love God
Love the Neighbor

A man who loves the ministry will hang in with it until his last breath. To accept $15 million dollars from a Christian University after trashing the name is to me ridiculous.
Wow,you really don't care about the truth.

Too bad.