Talks with Iran have failed. Trump says Iran will not be allowed to sell any oil, if they block Strait for other countries, US will block their ships

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US would rather not get involved in wars.
Really?
They have been involved in many, many wars since the end of WW2
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The United States has participated in over 200 military conflicts, with five formal declarations of war and numerous other major and minor engagements.
 
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Really?
They have been involved in many, many wars since the end of WW2
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The United States has participated in over 200 military conflicts, with five formal declarations of war and numerous other major and minor engagements.
I never said they relished getting involved though. All wars have reasons, causes.
 

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I never said they relished getting involved though. All wars have reasons, causes.

Seems Britain ALWAYS has it's hand in the cookie jar.
Just saying.
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Iran blocked from selling any oil, no ships, no economic activity entering or leaving any ports for Iran.
US is insisting Iran to be permanently blocked from enriching uranium for nuclear weapons, forever.
Dr. Qanta Ahmed, she says that is extremely important for the future of the region.

 
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Iran blocked from selling any oil, no ships, no economic activity entering or leaving any ports for Iran.
US is insisting Iran to be permanently blocked from enriching uranium for nuclear weapons, forever.
Dr. Qanta Ahmed, she says that is extremely important for the future of the region.

I'm not sure if you follow this guy. But he has a lot of on the ground knowledge that MSM don't want to talk about.
So I'll put this here.
It's pretty interesting in my opinion.
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Why Iran’s future looks increasingly uncertain​

Iran is facing a serious demographic challenge. The country’s fertility rate has fallen sharply—from around 6 children per woman decades ago to about 1.6 today, far below the replacement level. Experts warn that Iran’s population could shrink dramatically and become one of the fastest-aging societies in the region

Iran is facing huge environmental water crisis.
Day zero coming when the water taps will run dry.
Birth rate crashing.
92 million people currently live there.
Overall, facing a bleak future, and their population will rapidly age.
 
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The nation fights back - Iran ignites armed revolution against the regime​

“Down with the dictator.” This cry echoes through Tehran and beyond as millions rise in armed revolt. From burning government offices to barricaded streets, Iran’s citizens are showing their willingness to fight for freedom. The regime is scrambling to contain the chaos. Analysts warn that this uprising could redefine Iran’s future.

Video, guy thinks IRAN government about to fall.
People are setting fires in Tehran
Their government will shoot them dead in the streets.
Imagine living there.

 
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The nation fights back - Iran ignites armed revolution against the regime​

“Down with the dictator.” This cry echoes through Tehran and beyond as millions rise in armed revolt. From burning government offices to barricaded streets, Iran’s citizens are showing their willingness to fight for freedom. The regime is scrambling to contain the chaos. Analysts warn that this uprising could redefine Iran’s future.

Video, guy thinks IRAN government about to fall.
People are setting fires in Tehran
Their government will shoot them dead in the streets.
Imagine living there.

There are reports that Iraq is sending a militia to Iran to back the IRGC against the Iranian people.
There was a video with all kinds of vans and busses all loaded up with firepower and manpower.

On the other hand, We have I don't even know how many troops in those big tankers doing military training inside the ships.
Some of the other Arab countries are training too.
This could be the days of Armageddon.
I pray it doesn't come to that, but the bible has a way of being right.

Lebanon is going after Hezbollah and chasing them down. I guess they come up with some kind of agreement with Israel.
Hamas is still dealing with Gaza. Not sure what the Houthis are up to.
Not sure if the ones coming from Iraq are what's left of Isis.
Mossad is in Iran working with the People's army.

It could get messy.

And the whore that rides the Beast is signing books.

The programme included a guided visit to the mosque, an official photograph and the signing of the Book of Honour in which the Pope wrote: “May the mercy of the Most High keep the noble Algerian people and the entire human family in peace and freedom.”
The Grand Mosque of Algiers is reportedly the third-largest mosque in the world, capable of accommodating up to 120,000 worshippers.

The Mediterranean Sea.

Rev 13:1
And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

I suppose time will tell.

Crazy times
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I had a sense the talks would fail, Iran is not acting like they are defeated. Similar things happened in WW2, and many other wars.
I think Trump should follow through with his earlier plans, wipe out Iranian infrastructure, send them back to primitive times, and force open the gulf. Iran wont ever stop being Iran unless the current government is wiped out completely. Venezuela is a successful intervention story. Countries VP has become president, and development money is flowing back in, the people will have a better life.
One reason is they are not Shia Islamic, who if you notice have many issues with about everyone including Sunni Islam, Iran is a fascist theocratic dictatorship ruled by Mullahs, but now the IRGC have taken over and they most certainly are of the same dictator like ideas.
US took out dictator Maduro and things naturally got better, but that country was a different situation.


President Donald Trump detailed a sweeping "all-or-nothing" U.S. blockade of the Strait of Hormuz in a "Sunday Morning Futures" exclusive interview, vowing to choke off Iran’s oil profits and warning that no country — ally or adversary — will be allowed to bypass the crackdown.

"We're not going to let Iran make money on selling oil to people that they like and not people that they don't like... It's going to be all or none and that's the way it is," Trump said.

"You saw what we did with Venezuela. It'll be something very similar to that but at a higher level."

The president told Fox News’ Maria Bartiromo that the policy would be strictly "all or nothing," meaning every country would either be allowed full access through the waterway or none at all, with no exceptions for allies.

TRUMP REVEALS IRAN MADE 'SIGNIFICANT PROPOSAL' AFTER ULTIMATUM, BUT 'NOT GOOD ENOUGH'
Y'all delusional ,believe anything trump as jesus has 2 say
 

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In early 2025, Iran was enriching substantial quantities of uranium to 60% purity, close to weapons-grade. Analysts warned that such activity exceeded any plausible civilian justification.[310] Beginning in April 2025, Iran and the United States entered negotiations for a new nuclear agreement, but progress stalled as Iran's leaders have refused to stop enriching uranium.[311] Among the main points of disagreement were the conditions for lifting sanctions against Iran.[312]

In June 2025, IAEA found Iran non-compliant with its nuclear obligations for the first time in two decades.[313] In response, Iran announced the activation of a new enrichment facility and began installing additional advanced centrifuges.[314]

On 13 June 2025, Israel launched coordinated strikes across Iran, targeting nuclear facilities and eliminating top members of Iran's military leadership. This was the beginning of the Twelve-Day War[315] Iran retaliated with waves of missile and drone strikes against Israeli cities and military sites.[316] United States strikes on Iranian nuclear sites occurred on 22 June 2025.[317] On 24 June, Israel and Iran agreed to a ceasefire after insistence from the US.[318]

Beginning on 28 December 2025, mass demonstrations erupted across multiple cities in Iran amid widespread dissatisfaction with the Islamic Republic government and a deepening economic crisis. The movement quickly became the largest outbreak of unrest in Iran since the 2022–2023 protests following the death of Mahsa Amini.[319]

The ensuing crackdown, carried out under Ali Khamenei's and senior officials' order for live fire on protesters, resulted in massacres that left thousands of protesters dead.[320] The Iranian government faced accusations of committing crimes against humanity.[321]

On 28 February 2026, the United States and Israel launched a major attack on Iran with the stated goal of regime change.[322] The attack included the assassination of Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, whose compound was destroyed, as well as Ali Shamkhani, former head of Iran's Supreme National Security Council, and several other Iranian officials. In retaliation, Iran launched dozens of its drones and ballistic missiles throughout the Persian Gulf in addition to targeting Israel.[323]

And here we are.
 
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I don't think this is all about Iran.
There are a lot more wheels turning.

I think we have to turn back the clock to somewhere in the fall of 2019.


Is China The Real Target? After Hormuz, US Turns To Malacca​

Updated Apr 15, 2026, 15:53 IST

After Hormuz, the US eyes the Strait of Malacca. Is China the real target of the US' latest geopolitical moves?​

US-Indonesia Defense Partnership​

As per US media reports, a major defense cooperation partnership may have been inked between Washington and Indonesia, following talks involving US Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. On paper, the deal reportedly focuses on maritime security, joint training and capacity building. But in practice, analysts say, it places the United States and its partners in a position of unprecedented visibility over one of the most sensitive arteries of the global economy, which some reports say, is bigger than the Hormuz itself in terms of the volume of traffic - the Strait of Malacca.

Why Strait Of Malacca?​

The Malacca strait is not just another shipping lane. Roughly 80% of China's oil imports pass through this narrow corridor, squeezed between Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore. It is the shortest and cheapest route for energy supplies moving from the Gulf and Africa into East Asia. And it is precisely this dependence that has long worried Beijing.




What does Greenland, Iran, Venezuela and Indonesia have in common?


Strait and narrow passages.


I think China is going to face it's day of reckoning.

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This blockade is an attempt to starve the regime of it's money supply. I still don't believe it'll have the intended effect. The war began with the goal of regime change. That has obviously failed to materialize.
So far.

The only way to achieve that objective is with a significant ground invasion. Since ground forces are off the table, with the exception of maybe Kharg Island, the only thing the US can do is bomb any remaining military targets to degrade the Iranian military further, or begin attacking civilian targets like power plants, desalination plants, etc.
US ground troops are being sent.......certainly wish otherwise, but this might have to get uglier before it gets better for anyone.

The latter is going up the escalation ladder, and Iran can match that by targeting civilian infrastructure in the other gulf states. So no matter which way you slice it, the United States has really stepped in it once again.

Israel is the only country that has met it's military objectives in this war; the complete destruction of the Iranian navy and it's ability to project force outside of it's proxies. So Israel comes out on top, and once again, the US is left in a worse position than it was before the war began.
I don't wish trouble and hardship upon anyone, but could this be God's will in these last days.....?....He is watching over His word to perform it. Could it be that the times of the Gentiles are coming to an end....?

This is why do many people on the political right are questioning our relationship with Israel. Our political leaders are always putting the interests of a foreign power above our own, often at our own expense.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio, admitted on camera, that Israel is dictating US foreign policy. The question that should have been asked immediately after by reporters is, why didn't the President tell Netanyahu that if he attacks Iran, he will have no US support? People are rightly asking, why is a foreign country dictating whether or not we go to war?

To my understanding, I think Israel was going to do something about Iran's capability anyhow, with or without US support....perhaps the US administration saw an opportunity in working together, knowing that Israel was already going in there regardless. Just a thought.
 

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I think what Trump did with Iran was inevitable. Every president since the regime took power has said the US and west should stop Iran from getting NW. We all know they are behind most of the worlds terrorism. If they get a NW they will use it for sure. They are insane.

Most leaders have been restrained as they knew what that would unleash. In some ways they have contributed by skirting around the issue and even aiding the further cultivation of radicalism.

But at some point I think this situation was going to come to a head. I think the ongoing issues leading up to attacking Iran were always going to end with Iran.

I think the US and Isreal should complete the job with disarming Iran and their nuclear enrichment and have a joint control the straits of hormuz to allow the oil to flow. Iran cannot hold the world hostage with controlling public waterways.

This will also put pressure of China to tell Iran to make a deal to get the oil flowing again.

All these problems are inevitable no matter which way you look at it. Ignore the problem and it creates an even bigger one. Confront it and it opens a can of worms and some bad consequences.

I think this is going to be a real test for the worlds ability to come together and work something out. Which may include choosing which side your on. Hopefully everyone will want peace and not an escalation of war.
 
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If we could just go back about 7 years.
Remember the chaos surrounding the covid pandemic. George Floyd riots. Open borders. Fentanyl overdose crisis was peaking.
Our supply chains was shut down. Our businesses and schools were shut down. People were told they have no 1st amendment rights, they was "temporarily" suspended for over 2 years.
Chinese nationalists were coming in over the border entering our R &D facilities caught stealing secrets.
China troops doing exercises on our Northern Border.

We asked for masks and gowns and hand sanitizer and China said NO.
We had to convert businesses that made car parts and turn them into ventilator plants and hand sanitizer plants to save our own people.
But we also shipped what we made to help other countries as well.

The cartels crept over the border with the immigrants, human and drug trafficking, unaccompanied children of which over 300,000 went missing. No immigrants or protesters were required to get the vaccine. But if you an American chose not to, you was shamed and ridiculed and called the pandemic of the unvaccinated. They tried to bribe us with french fries and lottery tickets.
They put sick people in the assisted living facilities claiming the hospitals were overflowing. While the doctors and nurses made tick tock videos of themselves dancing in the halls while people were gasping for breath.

The lawsuits that came flying when we tried to shut the border.
There are thousands of posts here in this forum recording what happened during the China Virus days.

Iran is literally a distraction from the real enemy. Trump called it the silent enemy because it didn't breach our beaches or our air spaces with bombs and guns and armies. It was from a virus and fentanyl and fear which was manufactured in China.

How much influence do you think China has over our politicians, our businesses, our education system, our agriculture?

I'm 61. I remember 2020 because I watched it on live feeds for 120 days and nights while Portland, LA, Minneapolis, and other cities around the country burned.
Our soldiers were forced to leave the military if they didn't get the clot shot.

Who would benefit from the USA being made sick and unable to defend itself?

As far as Israel and Lebanon. Both sides met the other day and agreed that their countries are not at war with each other. It is Hezbollah inside Lebanon attacking Israel funded by Iran and using Lebanon as it's personal hideout.
Lebanon is now actively removing Hezbollah from their country so that there can be peace between them.

It's easy to sit back and just watch the news or read the headlines. It takes a little work to actually do some investigating for yourself.

And here's the clincher.
The left hate Trump and his cabinet so much that they won't listen or pay attention to what any of them are saying.
They don't follow international news, listening to the parties involved from all sides.
They don't watch the meetings or the conferences or even the Press briefings.
They are uneducated and uninformed because the only information they receive is fed to them through propaganda who is Anti-American to begin with,

I am disabled. I take care of my 91 y/o dad who I home hospice 24/7/365. He is doing well.
But I have time. I have time to hear both sides and then watch as things unfold.
Because anybody can make a prediction about anything. What matters is if those predictions come true or not.

I been watching for a long time.
And now China is out of time.

We shutdown the border. We have removed the biggest supplier of fentanyl and cartels in Venezuela, while taking away China's access to their oil. We are removing the cartels boat by boat trying to bring poison into our country and killing our people.
We are passing laws removing China's footprint in our agriculture by stopping them from buying up our farmlands.
We are removing the Confucius Institutes throughout America.

Nobody said this was going to be easy.
But we are winning whether people like it or not.
We are a sovereign nation. And not China or Russia or the EU or Britain will be allowed to manipulate our country like they have been doing for decades.
We are taking it back. And that is what Make America Great Again stands for.

FREEDOM.

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If China decides to be a good neighbor, then things will go just fine for them regarding these Indonesian straights. China likes world trade with the west, they make a lot of money. lets see if they like economic growth more than ideologies and conflicts.
 
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