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You are seriously thinking more blessed?
You should be thinking more seduced/deceived/oppressed!

As the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit chipped away at our faith (much like a scorpion's sting) and LOVE for Almighty God that is in/through which made acceptable "spiritual sacrifice/s", by believers, offered to Almighty God BY Jesus Christ of Nazareth!
Which fact actually dissolves our will to resist, as it absorbs its quarry!

So? Why WOULD Christianity/churchianity even WANT to take credit for THIS? :contemplate:
lets look again at your last question . it is a good question .
Now allow me to sum it up by asking another question .
SO ...........WHY WOULD any christain even want to JOIN HANDS WITH AN ECUMEINCAL HARLOT .
who has done nothing but lie to both sides
Who has done nothing but preach a false love that has made , what they say and cliam is , the way to GOD VERY V ERY BROAD .
WHY would christendom have dared to do such a thing .
And before one says OH this could never happen to christendom
YOU BETTER see what happened to JERSUALEM who too were counted as the people of GOD .
YOU GO and you see what their leaders were preaching to them RIGHT before SUDDEN destruction came upon them all .
And the more we read the examples in the old holy scrips
and then compare todays ecumiencal harlot and her fat path to another god ,
YOU GONNA SEE What the wicked did , what the leaders sold to their own people
THE CHURCHES within much of christendom has now done .
WITH the same promise of ye shall have PEACE . oh it is quite identical .
The harlot does not slumber . She has taken over even much of christendom .
Selling her lie to all religoins
selling her harlot love to the world and much of christendom . TO MERGE THEM ALL as one people
under what all will beleive is OF GOD , IS HIS LOVE, and HIS PLAN for world peace .
ONLY , its not of GOD . its of this one , AND by PEACE shall HE destroy many . That one aint GOD friend
But he sure is and his message sure is being seen as though IT IS GOD and IS HIS PLAN .
watch out . ITS ALL OVER the places now .
 
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lets look again at your last question . it is a good question .
Now allow me to sum it up by asking another question .
SO ...........WHY WOULD any christain even want to JOIN HANDS WITH AN ECUMEINCAL HARLOT .
who has done nothing but lie to both sides
Who has done nothing but preach a false love that has made , what they say and cliam is , the way to GOD VERY V ERY BROAD .
WHY would christendom have dared to do such a thing .
And before one says OH this could never happen to christendom
YOU BETTER see what happened to JERSUALEM who too were counted as the people of GOD .
YOU GO and you see what their leaders were preaching to them RIGHT before SUDDEN destruction came upon them all .
And the more we read the examples in the old holy scrips
and then compare todays ecumiencal harlot and her fat path to another god ,
YOU GONNA SEE What the wicked did , what the leaders sold to their own people
THE CHURCHES within much of christendom has now done .
WITH the same promise of ye shall have PEACE . oh it is quite identical .
The harlot does not slumber . She has taken over even much of christendom .
Selling her lie to all religoins
selling her harlot love to the world and much of christendom . TO MERGE THEM ALL as one people
under what all will beleive is OF GOD , IS HIS LOVE, and HIS PLAN for world peace .
ONLY , its not of GOD . its of this one , AND by PEACE shall HE destroy many . That one aint GOD friend
But he sure is and his message sure is being seen as though IT IS GOD and IS HIS PLAN .
watch out . ITS ALL OVER the places now .
Is this what you are striving to say?:
Deuteronomy 32:
15 But Jeshurun* waxed fat, and kicked: thou art waxen fat, thou art grown thick, thou art covered with fatness; then he forsook God which made him, and lightly esteemed the Rock of his salvation.
16 They provoked him to jealousy with strange gods, with abominations provoked they him to anger.
17 They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not.
18 Of the Rock that begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee.
19 And when the Lord saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters.
20 And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith.

*Jeshurun-A derogatory "moniker" of the Hebrew/Jewish nation. Which is "part" of what is called "The SONG OF Moses!"

Funny, or really? NOT that funny, how HIStory repeats itself.

I notice you use the term "ecumiencal" quite often in your posts. And am wondering just what the meaning/definition is? Or? What it means to you?

Although you are using (it seems) John's "Revelation" in your posts? This is also stated pretty clearly here:
Zechariah 1:
18 Then lifted I up mine eyes, and saw, and behold four horns.
19 And I said unto the angel that talked with me, What be these? And he answered me, These are the horns which have scattered Judah, Israel, and Jerusalem.
20 And the Lord shewed me four carpenters.
21 Then said I, What come these to do? And he spake, saying, These are the horns which have scattered Judah, so that no man did lift up his head: but these are come to fray them, to cast out the horns of the Gentiles, which lifted up their horn over the land of Judah to scatter it.

Although it is noteworthy in your constantly drawing attention to this? You're NOT going to stop this!
And? Neither am I!
Nor do I even wish to! As this is the way it is suppose to be!

Yet? Even in a mostly "politically liberal TDS forum" such as this?
It DOES cause Members of the GODHEAD to "elbow each other, and winking" humorously , as we continue to aggravate and agitate 'em! To THIS end!:
2 Thessalonians 2:
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
 

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Is this what you are striving to say?:
Deuteronomy 32:
15 But Jeshurun* waxed fat, and kicked: thou art waxen fat, thou art grown thick, thou art covered with fatness; then he forsook God which made him, and lightly esteemed the Rock of his salvation.
16 They provoked him to jealousy with strange gods, with abominations provoked they him to anger.
17 They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not.
18 Of the Rock that begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee.
19 And when the Lord saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters.
20 And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith.

*Jeshurun-A derogatory "moniker" of the Hebrew/Jewish nation. Which is "part" of what is called "The SONG OF Moses!"

Funny, or really? NOT that funny, how HIStory repeats itself.

I notice you use the term "ecumiencal" quite often in your posts. And am wondering just what the meaning/definition is? Or? What it means to you?

Although you are using (it seems) John's "Revelation" in your posts? This is also stated pretty clearly here:
Zechariah 1:
18 Then lifted I up mine eyes, and saw, and behold four horns.
19 And I said unto the angel that talked with me, What be these? And he answered me, These are the horns which have scattered Judah, Israel, and Jerusalem.
20 And the Lord shewed me four carpenters.
21 Then said I, What come these to do? And he spake, saying, These are the horns which have scattered Judah, so that no man did lift up his head: but these are come to fray them, to cast out the horns of the Gentiles, which lifted up their horn over the land of Judah to scatter it.

Although it is noteworthy in your constantly drawing attention to this? You're NOT going to stop this!
And? Neither am I!
Nor do I even wish to! As this is the way it is suppose to be!

Yet? Even in a mostly "politically liberal TDS forum" such as this?
It DOES cause Members of the GODHEAD to "elbow each other, and winking" humorously , as we continue to aggravate and agitate 'em! To THIS end!:
2 Thessalonians 2:
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
That is how the snare gets them all .
You asked me what does ecumeincism mean to me or etc .
It dont matter what group be involved , its all a snare and a trap meant only to merge
the decieved with the decieved . It must be fled .
This is not to say that everyone sitting in a church tied into ecumenicalism is an anti christ .
BUT IT SURE DO MEAN that is exactly whom its leading all right too .
ITS A SNARE . THEY SOLD OUT my friend . Go on look around
And understand THEY SOLD yall out to the great whore who sits upon many waters .
She just knows how to blend ecumincialism into any group she appraoches .
To a baptist she came in sounding as one
to a methodist she came in sounding as one
and that list gets real long my friend .
The goal . The g oal was to break down not on ly every denomination within christendom
but also the false religoins . MAMA HARLOT wants power as do her leaders . MAMA HARLOT wants to sit high over
this religoin . AND as always mama knows how and what to wear in order to seduce and to decieve .
everyone always desiring to beleive their leaders version of something is different .
NOPE . if its focused on the judge not correct not lets have unity , ITS ALL GOING DOWN .
 
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Is this what you are striving to say?:
Deuteronomy 32:
15 But Jeshurun* waxed fat, and kicked: thou art waxen fat, thou art grown thick, thou art covered with fatness; then he forsook God which made him, and lightly esteemed the Rock of his salvation.
16 They provoked him to jealousy with strange gods, with abominations provoked they him to anger.
17 They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not.
18 Of the Rock that begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee.
19 And when the Lord saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters.
20 And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith.

*Jeshurun-A derogatory "moniker" of the Hebrew/Jewish nation. Which is "part" of what is called "The SONG OF Moses!"

Funny, or really? NOT that funny, how HIStory repeats itself.

I notice you use the term "ecumiencal" quite often in your posts. And am wondering just what the meaning/definition is? Or? What it means to you?

Although you are using (it seems) John's "Revelation" in your posts? This is also stated pretty clearly here:
Zechariah 1:
18 Then lifted I up mine eyes, and saw, and behold four horns.
19 And I said unto the angel that talked with me, What be these? And he answered me, These are the horns which have scattered Judah, Israel, and Jerusalem.
20 And the Lord shewed me four carpenters.
21 Then said I, What come these to do? And he spake, saying, These are the horns which have scattered Judah, so that no man did lift up his head: but these are come to fray them, to cast out the horns of the Gentiles, which lifted up their horn over the land of Judah to scatter it.

Although it is noteworthy in your constantly drawing attention to this? You're NOT going to stop this!
And? Neither am I!
Nor do I even wish to! As this is the way it is suppose to be!

Yet? Even in a mostly "politically liberal TDS forum" such as this?
It DOES cause Members of the GODHEAD to "elbow each other, and winking" humorously , as we continue to aggravate and agitate 'em! To THIS end!:
2 Thessalonians 2:
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
interfaith interreligious dialgoue is of anti christ . I dont give a rip if the liberal left or any other side preaches it
ITS OF anti christ . I notice you seem to see the evil of the liberal left . VERY GOOD my friend .
But can you see The evil of the very nar realm and vance n trump and holla white , WHO DO ITS B IDDING TOO .
If not then your hope be in man , NOT GOD. if that offends then it offends .
GOOD medicine might st ing a bit , but how good it is for those in need of it .
BOTH SIDES are being DUPED MASSIVELY NOW . and key behind their deceptoin is
BOTH sides trusted in men , in their politics and etc . AND ITS WHY THEY ARE ALL GOING DOWN .
BIBLE TIME . oh what i say to one i say to all , IT IS BIBLE TIME , TIME for all
to begin afresh and anew . FLEEING any and all hopes in men . Cause frankly
all i see from the left and the right , from even trump mighty and his klan , IS DECEPTION .
Better to do as lott and get out and dont l ook back . Yes i say DO NOT LOOK back . they duping all .
 

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has any pope e ver been nomiated for nobel peace prize .
I would not give much thought or praise to any who does get nominated for it .
Even obama did .
I wonder if they can pin the medal on an anti christ , i bet they will on THE ANTI CHRIST as well .
My advice is
those who holler we must have peace n safety for israel and the world and run to intefaith , LOOK OUT
its the wrong peace plan folks .
 

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many thought obama was muslim . HE was not . HE was of the religoin of inclusivity
Many thought trump hated muslims . HE does not , HE too is of the religion of inclusivity .
Many think the pope has made a deal to let the RELIGOIN of islam take over . NO
he too is of the religoin of inclusivity .
THEY ALL ARE . so long as one f ollows the govts religoin of inclusivity , THEY DONT g ive a rip
what path one follows . The only problem is THE RELIGOIN of inclusivity , DENIES and SOON
will TARGET the true sheep w ho would not conform to its love and its image of what it calleth GOD .
The most seemingly to care and love religion of inclu sivity , IS ACTUALLY the most deadliest and will lead
to the most blood of all religoins . HE who does not conform , HE NO BUY HE NO SELL .
And WHO ya THINK determines what is INCLUSIVE , non divisise , what is mis or dis information , what is hate and hateful
and what is love and loving. IF YA SAID THE ONE WO RLD GOVT . WINNER WINNER but no chicken dinner .
And how ya think they gonna enforce it . IF ya said DIGITAL AI LED SYSTEM , again WINNER winner , but again no chicken dinner .
BOTH SIDES , much of christendom , the false religions and all
ARE BEING SET UP FOR THE GREAT DELUSION that will merge them as one man
under what all will beleive IS OF GOD , IS HIS LOVE and IS HIS SOLUTION for wo rld peace .
And who ya think is gonna be the one who sits over it . IF ya said satan , fp , antichrist beast , BINGO
winner winner but no chicken dinner . WE are all being groomed for the lie of all lies
that will merge this peoples as one , a we are one NIMORD , GOD HATING world but beleiving
its ALL of GOD and IS H IS LOVE . its a delusion and its a strong one indeed .
 

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Pakistan nominated Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize.
many thought obama was muslim . HE was not . HE was of the religoin of inclusivity
Many thought trump hated muslims . HE does not , HE too is of the religion of inclusivity .
Many think the pope has made a deal to let the RELIGOIN of islam take over . NO
he too is of the religoin of inclusivity .
THEY ALL ARE . so long as one f ollows the govts religoin of inclusivity , THEY DONT g ive a rip
what path one follows . The only problem is THE RELIGOIN of inclusivity , DENIES and SOON
will TARGET the true sheep w ho would not conform to its love and its image of what it calleth GOD .
The most seemingly to care and love religion of inclu sivity , IS ACTUALLY the most deadliest and will lead
to the most blood of all religoins . HE who does not conform , HE NO BUY HE NO SELL .
And WHO ya THINK determines what is INCLUSIVE , non divisise , what is mis or dis information , what is hate and hateful
and what is love and loving. IF YA SAID THE ONE WO RLD GOVT . WINNER WINNER but no chicken dinner .
And how ya think they gonna enforce it . IF ya said DIGITAL AI LED SYSTEM , again WINNER winner , but again no chicken dinner .
BOTH SIDES , much of christendom , the false religions and all
ARE BEING SET UP FOR THE GREAT DELUSION that will merge them as one man
under what all will beleive IS OF GOD , IS HIS LOVE and IS HIS SOLUTION for wo rld peace .
And who ya think is gonna be the one who sits over it . IF ya said satan , fp , antichrist beast , BINGO
winner winner but no chicken dinner . WE are all being groomed for the lie of all lies
that will merge this peoples as one , a we are one NIMORD , GOD HATING world but beleiving
its ALL of GOD and IS H IS LOVE . its a delusion and its a strong one indeed .
 
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BOTH SIDES are being DUPED MASSIVELY NOW .
Oh! Only NOW are both sides being (as you say) duped?
Where oh WHERE have YOU been? :contemplate:
ALL political parties for QUITE some time have been leading the U.S. of A. down that "road of apostasy!"

Forcing, without even asking that voters MUST choose the "lessor of two evils!"
So until recently, as the "political left's" lawless and Godless ideologies not only condone the greatest of all Mass murderings of unborn babies? And? have become SO GODLESS, that they even are now mocking the SAME God from which they came from to the point that even a Supreme Court Justice cannot answer a seemingly fairly obvious question as to "What is a woman?" And? AND??!!! Are indoctrinating little children who have miraculously escaped their "mass murder" agenda, that this same God from which they have come from? Didn't MAKE them right!......How absurd and Blasphemous is THAT?!?!!!
ANSWER! If you've more then half a brain of EARNEST literacy betweenst your ears!
I think even Ray Charles or Helen Keller could answer this one! :Laughingoutloud:

So? If you're looking for the "perfect political party?"
NOPE!! Not gonna find one!
If your looking for the MORE God following and loving political party?
Ray Charles or Helen Keller could answer that one!

So? You can keep going along with yer TDS buddies from the "Demoncrats?" As they are so very well pleased in you staying JUST the way you ARE?!
Or?.....You can strive in keeping the Memo to satan; That "his" time is SO VERY short!
To the which your eyes may open and your ears become unplugged, and your mind become LESS dull!
 
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ALL political parties for QUITE some time have been leading the U.S. of A. down that "road of apostasy!"

As Reagan said, someone who agrees with you 80% of the time is not your enemy.

have become SO GODLESS, that they even are now mocking the SAME God from which they came from to the point that even a Supreme Court Justice cannot answer a seemingly fairly obvious question as to "What is a woman?

More than a little off the narrow path.

So? If you're looking for the "perfect political party?"
NOPE!! Not gonna find one!
Exactly right! Politics is the art of what’s possible - not perfect.

When you think about cooperation, humans cooperate to a remarkable degree in comparison to the rest of Creation. Just because we are superior does not mean we are perfect.

Other threads have the over-spiritualized forsake all violence. Politics has a non-violent component but make no mistake, war is just another big government program.

The military claims to be apolitical but is actually quintessentially political. That we are able to achieve so much non-violently doesn’t side step our warrior, predator nature.
 
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It's now all about oil.
Not about setting people free from the evil regime.
The goals were never "the people".
They are all evil, Israel, Trump and all the other ones involved.
But boy oh boy, the un-informed or WAY MISS-informed are totally one sided and have no clue that the government really could care less about them. Gullible IMHO.
 

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You are seriously thinking more blessed?
You should be thinking more seduced/deceived/oppressed!

As the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit chipped away at our faith (much like a scorpion's sting) and LOVE for Almighty God that is in/through which made acceptable "spiritual sacrifice/s", by believers, offered to Almighty God BY Jesus Christ of Nazareth!
Which fact actually dissolves our will to resist, as it absorbs its quarry!

So? Why WOULD Christianity/churchianity even WANT to take credit for THIS? :contemplate:
I think you must not have understood my post.
 

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Oh! Only NOW are both sides being (as you say) duped?
Where oh WHERE have YOU been? :contemplate:
ALL political parties for QUITE some time have been leading the U.S. of A. down that "road of apostasy!"

Forcing, without even asking that voters MUST choose the "lessor of two evils!"
So until recently, as the "political left's" lawless and Godless ideologies not only condone the greatest of all Mass murderings of unborn babies? And? have become SO GODLESS, that they even are now mocking the SAME God from which they came from to the point that even a Supreme Court Justice cannot answer a seemingly fairly obvious question as to "What is a woman?" And? AND??!!! Are indoctrinating little children who have miraculously escaped their "mass murder" agenda, that this same God from which they have come from? Didn't MAKE them right!......How absurd and Blasphemous is THAT?!?!!!
ANSWER! If you've more then half a brain of EARNEST literacy betweenst your ears!
I think even Ray Charles or Helen Keller could answer this one! :Laughingoutloud:

So? If you're looking for the "perfect political party?"
NOPE!! Not gonna find one!
If your looking for the MORE God following and loving political party?
Ray Charles or Helen Keller could answer that one!

So? You can keep going along with yer TDS buddies from the "Demoncrats?" As they are so very well pleased in you staying JUST the way you ARE?!
Or?.....You can strive in keeping the Memo to satan; That "his" time is SO VERY short!
To the which your eyes may open and your ears become unplugged, and your mind become LESS dull!
friend i have long known both parties have long long decieved .
And now Trump comes to lead the few who saw this right into the same agenda he seems to be so dead set against .
The beloved ecumiencal cry of the whore of all harlots and her well devised intefaith plan . ALL of it
A LIE and all of them under its sway . OH its not me being deciev ed .
you were so excited , so ready to jump on a false gotcha moment . NOPE . I HAVE LONG KNOWN
politics have been bad news for years and years and years and years .
So LETS FLEE TRUMP VANCE , ANYTHING ecumenical . WHICH means DONT run to satans liberal left
And dont run to the conservatives either . Dont run to the RCC either .
IT BE bible time in the house . CURSED is the man whose hope be in man . that is why they have you all
decieved . As for me IN GOD SHALL I TR UST , THIS IN HIS CHRIST shall i cling and to HIS every word in the scrips .
You all can keep and hope in the rest , its all in vain . BUT HOPE IN GOD IS NOT IN VAIN . OH ITS bible time friends .
And get far from anything ecumeincal NO MATTER WHOSE MOUTH is coming outta . THEY lead this peoples
to the day of their own destruction .
 

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So? You can keep going along with yer TDS buddies from the "Demoncrats?" As they are so very well pleased in you staying JUST the way you ARE?!
Or?.....You can strive in keeping the Memo to satan; That "his" time is SO VERY short!
Are you saying that you believe Trump is God's answer to Satan and that he is going to put a stop to the devil's works? Please clarify what you mean by what you are saying here, in case I'm misunderstanding you.
 

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I think you must not have understood my post.
they understand only T rump now s ister and the plan to bring peace on earth .
Sadly so do the left , so do much of christendom , so do many . Same plan just sold differently .
The politics divide the false religion of inclusvity unites . And all will wail on the day of the LORD .
Pray for them all sister , pray that many come out from this before forever it is too late .
 

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Correct. Because the "anti Christ is seen as THE great peace maker.
and that which is of anti christ shall lead them all TO THIS as one man , one mind , one heart
all beleiving ITS OF THE ONE SAME GOD that all religoins do serve .
OH its of the same god all right , but take heed i said god and not GOD .
This people is not gonna make it on the path they are on my friend .
For from the least of them to the greatest of them
and from the right and to the left
and from the trump suppoters all are given to HOPES IN MAN to bring peace on earth . TEHY AINT gonna make it .
I repeat the path these folks are on will lead only to this .............THE DAY OF THEIR DESTRUCTION by THE VERY GOD
and HIS CHRIST whom their peace plan , fake love , DENIED . people better watch out .
 
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Are you saying that you believe Trump is God's answer to Satan and that he is going to put a stop to the devil's works? Please clarify what you mean by what you are saying here, in case I'm misunderstanding you.
just as the leaders on the left were not Gods answer
just as the leader of the right were not Gods answer
Just as the great trump is not Gods answer
BUT RATHER A DELUSION TO THEM ALL . for what do these all have in common sister .
THEY HOPE BE IN MEN to bring them world peace and safety .
And all of them have the same agenda amongst them . YOU can bet its ecumeincal too .
you can bet its all tied into bringing the religoins to be as one and peoples of earth to be as one
UNDER what they ALL BELEIVE IS the PLAN of GOD and LOVE and for peace n safety .
And what do all have in common .
THE DIRE NECESSITY , the absolute MUST to BLEIEVE ON JESUS , OH ITS BEEN REMOVED
by their ecumeincal interfaith interreligous anti christ peace led plan .
The only difference is
THE LEFT is pro palestine while the right claims to be pro israel .
SO the politics OF HOW to get this done , might differ slighlty
but the solution of ANTI CHRIST IS TEH SAME FOR THEM ALL .
JESUS GETS DENIED and all paths accepted as okay . NOT gonna bode well
for any of them . As it was and is well written .
CURSED is and was the one who hopes in man .
BLESSED is the one WHOSE hope be IN GOD and thus IN CHRIST , in his words .