The Beginning Of Birth Pains

[guysmith]

The Beginning of Birth Pains

I believe that the prophetic scriptures are a word puzzle/mystery. And though these passages are penned by many individuals, one must remember that there is only one author of the Bible, Christ. That said, when Christ stated:

Matthew 24: 3As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?"
4Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are THE BEGINNING OF BIRTH PAINS.

Now, these "birth pains" could just a random statement with no forethought, or they could be well placed set of words designed into the Bible to provide more information about a another part of the Bible (I for one am more inclined to believe that these words are well placed and designed into the Bible) So, what other part of the Bible is discussing "birth pains?" How about Revelation 12 where the woman is "travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered."

If these passages are related and not random, then Matthew 24 provides us with a time reference in which the woman in Revelation 12 is going to birth the manchild. Specifically, at the "end of the age." And if the woman is going to birth the manchild at "the end of the age," then the manchild is not Christ.

Guy

 

[veteran]

The Beginning of Birth Pains

I believe that the prophetic scriptures are a word puzzle/mystery. And though these passages are penned by many individuals, one must remember that there is only one author of the Bible, Christ. That said, when Christ stated:

Matthew 24: 3As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?"
4Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are THE BEGINNING OF BIRTH PAINS.

Now, these "birth pains" could just a random statement with no forethought, or they could be well placed set of words designed into the Bible to provide more information about a another part of the Bible (I for one am more inclined to believe that these words are well placed and designed into the Bible) So, what other part of the Bible is discussing "birth pains?" How about Revelation 12 where the woman is "travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered."

If these passages are related and not random, then Matthew 24 provides us with a time reference in which the woman in Revelation 12 is going to birth the manchild. Specifically, at the "end of the age." And if the woman is going to birth the manchild at "the end of the age," then the manchild is not Christ.

Guy

The "man child" reference in Rev.12:5 is actually about Christ's Birth.


Rev 12:1-5
1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
5 And she brought forth a man Child, Who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to His throne.
(KJV)

That Rev.12:2 verse IS NOT about the Matt.24:7 verse of the "beginning of sorrows" (birth pangs).

The Matt.24:7 verse is about the end of days just prior to Christ's return. But the Rev.12:2 verse was about Christ coming in the flesh to die on the cross. Big separation of time between the two events.