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Keraz

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Acts 24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.

First group resurrection: "the just"
Second group resurrection: the "unjust"
It is obvious that the just and the unjust will be Judged at the same time, which will be after the Millennium, Rev 20:11-15
It says the dead in Christ rise first. There is no limiter of "some" so it is all as I said.
You cannot ignore and gloss over Revelation 20:4-5, which specifies who is raised and the rest must wait until the thousand years is over.
 

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It is obvious that the just and the unjust will be Judged at the same time, which will be after the Millennium, Rev 20:11-15

You cannot ignore and gloss over Revelation 20:4-5, which specifies who is raised and the rest must wait until the thousand years is over.

The rest are the unjust as seen in all the passages posted. There's two resurrections, all of the just and later all of the unjust.

No one misses the first resurrection if they are of the just.
 

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Yes but they aren't the only ones to resurrect at that timeframe. They are part of the first resurrection but not the only ones. So many passages speak of the righteous resurrecting before the unrighteous. Never one time is the first resurrection separated into groups where a group rises before others.

Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

First group resurrection: "to everlasting life"
Second group resurrection: "to shame and everlasting contempt"


Joh 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life ; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation

First group resurrection: "resurrection of life"
Second group resurrection: "the resurrection of damnation"


Acts 24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.

First group resurrection: "the just"
Second group resurrection: the "unjust"


It is never 3 resurrections like what you suggest:

First group resurrection: "the just"
Second group resurrection: more of the "just"
third group resurrection: the "unjust"
You make a natural and superficial mistake that seems right.

All your passages say nothing of a time gap between the resurrection of the righteous and the lost. It just says that some are resurrected to life and some to damnation. The focus is not on when but what.

In Revelation there is mentioned two resurrections. That does not mean that are the only resurrections.

We had hundreds of dead who were resurrected after Jesus resurrection and were seen by many! what happened to them?????? bible says nothing so answer carefully that you do not make assumptions.

But I will accept teh Word of God at face value:

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

When God goes into specific detail as He does in verse 4 we should pau attention and not add to it because we don't fully have all the pieces.

YOu have failed to show why we should add whole other groups not mentioned in this very specific description of who gets resurrected in the first resurrection, of Rev. 20
 
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The rest are the unjust as seen in all the passages posted. There's two resurrections, all of the just and later all of the unjust.

No one misses the first resurrection if they are of the just.
Rev 20 is very specific; ONLY the GT martyrs will be brought back to life when Jesus Returns.
Your separation of the just and the unjust, means that the Judgment has taken place. Which we are plainly told will happen at the end of the thousand years.

You seem to be trapped in false Church teaching. The idea that all the Christian dead will rise when Jesus Returns, is wrong and again means there has to be a Judgment first.
The only Judgment at the Return oi Jesus, will be [living peoples] of the nations, [or people groups] into those 'sheep' who obeyed the Commandments and the 'goats' who didn't. Matthew 25:31-33