The Chosen

[Wrangler]

“Emotional scenes” in The Chosen are simply tactics to produce fleshly entertainment

Now, you are catching on.

 

[RedLetterJoe]

“Emotional scenes” in The Chosen are simply tactics to produce fleshly entertainment, which is often irreverent, unbiblical fiction.

Dumbing down and distorting the gospels to make them appeal to worldly movie lovers is not a good way to present Jesus. But people who love watching movies may not care about reverence or scriptural accuracy.

They just want to slurp sodas and munch on popcorn while being entertained.

The falsified Nicodemus scene is an example.

I believe this scene captures the main problems with The Chosen overall. Take all of the complications with this scene and apply them to the whole show: different tones and settings; liberties taken with the characters and their intentions; changes made to the original dialogue to fit the story the writers are telling; and ignorance to the biblical context.

How can you not admit there are fundamental differences between The Chosen and the Bible?

Dallas said the gospel has been captured accurately, and then he says, “You’ll also see the historical context, the cultural context, and the personal human context that we added.” He doesn’t say they’re accurate; he says, “that we added.” What about the biblical context—is that not important to Jenkins? Indeed, even the historical, cultural, and personal human contexts are not accurate.

That's a wonderful testimony. Thank you for sharing what God is doing in your life.

 

[Wrangler]

That's a wonderful testimony. Thank you for sharing what God is doing in your life.

Love it! I'm going to use that reply!!!

 

[Wrangler]

How can you not admit there are fundamental differences between The Chosen and the Bible?

Of course! One is a history based book. The other is a fictional show. It's that you are trying to make more out of these differences than is called for.

Indeed, even the historical, cultural, and personal human contexts are not accurate.

It's called artistic license. Your posts reflect lots of hate and no tolerance for artistic expression. How about you show us how it is done?

 

[Anchorite]

I don't mind seeing Jesus portrayed doing all the good things we enjoy but I do not like contradicting Scripture for the sake of "dramatic licence".

Unless we see Jesus' humanity (as well as His Deity) it is difficult to identify with Him as one who was tempted in every way as we are (Hebrews 4:15).

Do we need to see the humanity of Jesus portrayed in a movie? I think the scriptures are all we need.

 

[Anchorite]

I’m not seeing certain people honoring the scriptures.

Instead, they exalt a TV series/movie, that pretends to portray Jesus, and they get upset if it is questioned or criticized.

What they defend as “artistic license” is mostly irreverent fantasies that often dishonor Christ and the gospel.

That says a lot about their testimony.

 

[Wrangler]

Do we need to see the humanity of Jesus portrayed in a movie? I think the scriptures are all we need.

It's not about need.

 

[marks]

Of course! One is a history based book.

The Gospels are their own Genre, not duplicated in any literature. They are the divinely inspired revealing of the Son of God, the Savior of the world.

It's not just a "history based book", as if you are free to change it however you want. God inspired these words to show Himself to Man, and man wants to change it to remove God from His creation.

Stop kidding yourself.

Much love!

 

[marks]

I’m not seeing certain people honoring the scriptures.

Instead, they exalt a TV series/movie, that pretends to portray Jesus, and they get upset if it is questioned or criticized.

What they defend as “artistic license” is mostly irreverent fantasies that often dishonor Christ and the gospel.

That says a lot about their testimony.

When you see this God hating world defend something, rest assured it's not defending something godly. Or so it seems to me!

Much love!

 

[Wrangler]

The Gospels are their own Genre

Not too much turning the other cheek here. So, I categorize a book in a manner you don't prefer and that offends you somehow,

It's not just a "history based book", as if you are free to change it however you want. God inspired these words to show Himself to Man, and man wants to change it to remove God from His creation.

Stop kidding yourself.

IDOLATRY. You're the one kidding yourself with this fascination in invoking the word "just," And where do you get off thinking anyone can change history? Sure, there is propaganda based revisionist history but that's not what is being discussed; I'm talking about fact based books from fiction based entertainment.

This thread is not about man changing the Bible. With Christian friends revealed in this thread, Christian artists don't need enemies.

 

[marks]

The person who says Jesus was a liar — also likes The Chosen.

The person who says Jesus was a liar — also thinks the presentations of Jesus in the gospels are not relatable.

What does that tell you?

At least he's consistent, right?

Jesus was a liar, and it's OK to tell lies about Him.

????????????

 

[marks]

And where do you get off thinking anyone can change history?

You seem to think so.

 

[marks]

So, I categorize a book in a manner you don't prefer and that offends you somehow,

Is one only able to offer correction to another if that one is offended? Hmm. Or are you just knee jerk lashing out? That's what it seems like.

 

[PS95]

At least he's consistent, right?

Jesus was a liar, and it's OK to tell lies about Him.

????????????

So why bother debating a thing with him.. Avoid false teachers- give them no platform to spew.

I look at it this way- is it possible that someone could come to Christ due to watching the Chosen? Sure.. and pray they will be nourished in the word to rightly understand truth from this fiction- being taught by the Spirit.
Remember Paul- people were teaching out of selfish ambition but Paul simply rejoiced that Jesus was being preached at all..
Phil 1-
15Some, to be sure, are preaching Christ even from envy and strife, but some also from good will; 16the latter do it out of love, knowing that I am appointed for the defense of the gospel; 17the former proclaim Christ out of selfish ambition rather than from pure motives, thinking to cause me distress in my imprisonment. 18What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed; and in this I rejoice.

Do you think that can be rightly applied here?

 

[marks]

So why bother debating a thing with him.. Avoid false teachers- give them no platform to spew.

I look at it this way- is it possible that someone could come to Christ due to watching the Chosen? Sure.. and pray they will be nourished in the word to rightly understand truth from this fiction- being taught by the Spirit.
Remember Paul- people were teaching out of selfish ambition but Paul simply rejoiced that Jesus was being preached at all..
Phil 1-
15Some, to be sure, are preaching Christ even from envy and strife, but some also from good will; 16the latter do it out of love, knowing that I am appointed for the defense of the gospel; 17the former proclaim Christ out of selfish ambition rather than from pure motives, thinking to cause me distress in my imprisonment. 18What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed; and in this I rejoice.

Do you think that can be rightly applied here?

Which Christ is being proclaimed? Motives are one thing, but what if those in Paul's day taught a different Jesus, would he have corrected them?

Much love!

 

[PS95]

Which Christ is being proclaimed? Motives are one thing, but what if those in Paul's day taught a different Jesus, would he have corrected them?

Much love!

He didn't say, so I imagine it was good. I agree. Yes, he would have corrected them. And if a different gospel- he would say they were accursed.
Since I no longer watch it and stopped early on - Making Jesus a script reader/actor which as written by Matthew was so out there to me, that I was turned off.-- I did see the Thomas/ GF dying one where Jesus seemed helpless and uncaring- refusing to help. but that's about it.
Such a stupid manmade series.
So you guys who have seen more than I are better to discern if this series would never lead anyone to Christ. I was holding out hope- and I think I still do- since God can work through anything/anyone. Sometimes, it's just one verse in the scriptures that convicts a heart.
I do not recommend it though.
It should be made widely known that it's full of error. I don't think they claimed to be scripturally accurate or have they?

 

[marks]

I don't think they claimed to be scripturally accurate or have they?

No, I believe they've given disclaimers. Even so I've come a across a number of Christians with varying degrees of Bible literacy who have incorporated themes and events from the Chosen, like that Peter was a tax cheat in trouble with Rome. A very good friend at church thought that Nicodemas has tried to cast out demons from Mary.

Much love!

 

[Wrangler]

Jesus was a liar, and it's OK to tell lies about Him.

No one said that.

 

[marks]

No one said that.

Really? You've said Jesus is a liar, and you've defended the Jenkin's right to make it up as he goes along. So there ya go.

 

[Wrangler]

Really? …. you've defended the Jenkin's right to make it up as he goes along. So there ya go.

Wow! Some people are able to discern that fiction is not the same as a lie.