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[Rom 11:24 KJV] 24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural [branches], be graffed into their own olive tree?
Right--in contrast to your assertion that these Gentiles were "remnant of Israel Gentiles".
[1Co 10:7 KJV] 7 Neither be ye idolaters, as [were] some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
The Gentiles of Romans 11 aren't "remnant of Israel Gentiles", because, if that were the case, Paul, who seeks to be part of fulfilling Deuteronomy 32:21 (Ro 11:13), would not be able to drive his fellow countrymen (other Israelites) to jealousy : the Israelites drove God to jealousy by choosing another god, thus, God, repaying them, chooses ANOTHER PEOPLE (not those selfsame people who made Him jealous--as if the Gentiles in Romans 11 are "remnant of Israel Gentiles") for Himself so as to make those people (who made Him jealous) jealous.
One new man is found in Paul's epistles
It really shows disrespect when you thoughtlessly shoot off empty answers rather than tracing the conversation back and understanding what you are responding to. It also demonstrates your folly.
LOL! The remnant of Israel is not the body of Christ?
[Gal 4:24 KJV] 24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
You complained, to Lizbeth, that "God showed Abraham a land not an allegory" just because she said the land was an allegory for something else (of course, I think she meant it was a type)--what I responded was that, based on the precedent in Galatians 4, it is NOT a denial of the physical reality of a thing just because someone says that that thing speaks allegorically of something else.
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Right
That these Gentiles are called a wild olive tree does not mean they arent believers in the remnant of Israel
This is the first thing you have said (that I have read) that has not been nonsense.
No, He isn't; Paul is saying there is an understanding among Jews that "all Israel will be saved", and God is not breaking His Word, but that "not all Israel is that 'Israel' of whom 'all' 'will be saved'"; therefore, proving there are two Israels.
No, it wouldn't, because it says "peace be upon all those who walk by this rule", and that they are "the Israel of God", so "the Israel of God" would consist in all who walk by that rule. The reason Paul even raises the idea of "the Israel of God" without defining it is because he is trusting that the content of the preceding book is enough to define it (ie, "these people want you to join Israel, but there is an Israel that God is concerned with people joining, and THAT is the Israel you ought to concern yourself with being a part of--not being severed from Christ, falling from grace." Remember, there're crimes, under Torah, for which the penalty is to be "cut off from among his people", and this is what is happening when the Galatians are going back under Law, being cut off from Christ, Who is called "Israel" in the Servant Songs of Isaiah.
I've been showing it, but you aren't paying attention : when Paul describes a natural branch being grafted back into its own olive tree, he doesn't use the language "contrary to nature", thus, these Gentiles, who are cut from "wild olive trees", and who are grafted in to the "cultivated olive tree" "contrary to nature", are not native to the cultivated olive tree, whereas all "remnant of Israel" believers are native to the olive tree, and are, when they come to faith, NOT grafted "contrary to nature" into their own tree that they belong to, but it is said of them "How much more will is He able to graft them into their own tree?"
Yes, it does--esp together with the logic of v13, where God chooses a people OTHER THAN the people who made Him jealous by choosing another god in order to drive them to jealous, and, so, Paul, wanting to fulfill the prophecy, wants to drive HIS FELLOW COUNTRYMEN to jealousy by magnifying his ministry to these Gentiles (Deuteronomy 32:21)--because there would literally be no other way to depict a real non-Israelite human being. HOW ELSE could he do it if he couldn't do it by saying "If this CULTIVATED olive tree represents Abraham and his descendants, then, these WILD olive trees are the other families/nations of the earth, which are NOT Abraham and his descendants"? Literally, there would be no other way for Paul to depict Gentile nations. There are no other things he could allude to to describe Gentile nations. In that case, there are no Gentiles, everyone is Jewish.
[Deu 32:21 KJV] 21 They have moved me to jealousy with [that which is] not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with [those which are] not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.
LOL He is going to move them to jealousy by choosing... THEM?
