The Future Great Tribulation Is 3.5 Years Long, The Beast And Two Witnesses Will Be On This Earth In Power Until The End

[Douggg]

Are you declaring yourself the elect of God?
what of Matthew 5:5 ''Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.''
what of the resurrection of the dead ? to then live here on this improved earth ?

I am a Christian, a follower of Christ. Saved by His precious blood shed on the cross, and His resurrection on the third day.

Matthew 5:3-11, Jesus spoke about "Blessed are....". The meek humble themselves before God and believe upon Jesus for eternal life.

The resurrected righteous dead will be forever with the Lord. Jesus will return and reign over this present earth, after restoring it from the damage done during the great tribulation, for one thousand years.

The resurrected righteous dead will be with Jesus here on this present earth for those one thousand years.

 

[Jay Ross]

I am a Christian, a follower of Christ. Saved by His precious blood shed on the cross, and His resurrection on the third day.

Matthew 5:3-11, Jesus spoke about "Blessed are....". The meek humble themselves before God and believe upon Jesus for eternal life.

The resurrected righteous dead will be forever with the Lord. Jesus will return and reign over this present earth, after restoring it from the damage done during the great tribulation, for one thousand years.

The resurrected righteous dead will be with Jesus here on this present earth for those one thousand years.

What scripture(s) are you pointing to with your claim above.

There is a logical dilemma in your claims above.

In Rev 20:4-6, the righteous dead that are resurrected in our near future will have lost their heads for their belief in Christ and His crucifixion to cover our sins by His spilt blood. Are you now also claiming that you will have lost your head between now and when you claim that Jesus will be coming to rule for 1,000 years on the face of the earth to rule with the righteous dead?

 

[HealthyShape]

Biblically, there is no "future great tribulation", nor "the beast" nor "the two witnesses".

These concepts were meant for the 1st century AD. A near future for the people living in the first half of the 1st century, but not for us. Therefore, all your speculations about these events are useless.

 

[Douggg]

What scripture(s) are you pointing to with your claim above.

There is a logical dilemma in your claims above.

In Rev 20:4-6, the righteous dead that are resurrected in our near future will have lost their heads for their belief in Christ and His crucifixion to cover our sins by His spilt blood. Are you now also claiming that you will have lost your head between now and when you claim that Jesus will be coming to rule for 1,000 years on the face of the earth to rule with the righteous dead?

The resurrected righteous dead, them saved by Christ's precious shed blood on the cross, and His resurrection of the third day, will be by three events involving resurrected righteous dead. The three events are....

1. the resurrection/rapture event of 1Thessalonians4:15-18 before the great tribulation begins.

2. the resurrection of the martyred great tribulation saints in Revelation 20:4-6.

3. the resurrection of them who become Christians during the one thousand years reign of Christ and die during the one thousand years - in Revelation 20:12-15.

 

[Jay Ross]

The resurrected righteous dead, them saved by Christ's precious shed blood on the cross, and His resurrection of the third day, will be by three events involving resurrected righteous dead. The three events are....

1. the resurrection/rapture event of 1Thessalonians4:15-18 before the great tribulation begins.

1Thessalonians4:15-18: - 15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus, we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.​

No reference to the rapture as you are presenting it in these verses.

2. the resurrection of the martyred great tribulation saints in Revelation 20:4-6.

Only those who have lost their heads, every other saint will not be resurrected until the time of the GWTR judgement.

3. the resurrection of them who become Christians during the one thousand years reign of Christ and die during the one thousand years - in Revelation 20:12-15.

Revelation 20:4-6: - 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for [a]a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.​

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That was why I had asked you whether or not you were prepared to lose your head or not for the sake of Christ?

Your POV is not acceptable.​

 

[Douggg]

1Thessalonians4:15-18: - 15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus, we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.​

No reference to the rapture as you are presenting it in these verses.

The rapture is in 1Thessalonians4:17.

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

 

[Jay Ross]

The rapture is in 1Thessalonians4:17.

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

Yer? When does this happen? I would suggest that this gathering in the air to meet Christ will happen just before the GWTR judgement. The GWTR event is still over 1,000 years into our future. Then the end will come.

 

[Deleted member 26788]

I am a Christian, a follower of Christ. Saved by His precious blood shed on the cross, and His resurrection on the third day.

Matthew 5:3-11, Jesus spoke about "Blessed are....". The meek humble themselves before God and believe upon Jesus for eternal life.

The resurrected righteous dead will be forever with the Lord. Jesus will return and reign over this present earth, after restoring it from the damage done during the great tribulation, for one thousand years.

The resurrected righteous dead will be with Jesus here on this present earth for those one thousand years.

back in #237 you ''I pray every day that Jesus come soon for the rapture and in the twinkling of an eye I will be gone from this world to forever be with the Lord.''
the rapture is taking a number of people to heaven ,some are saying all Christians . now you are saying people remain here on earth . which is it ?

 

[Douggg]

back in #237 you ''I pray every day that Jesus come soon for the rapture and in the twinkling of an eye I will be gone from this world to forever be with the Lord.''
the rapture is taking a number of people to heaven ,some are saying all Christians . now you are saying people remain here on earth . which is it ?

After the rapture has taken place, the great tribulation will begin here on earth.

During the great tribulation, there will be many persons who turn to Christ and become Christians. Some of them will be martyred for their testimony of Jesus.

When Jesus returns, He will resurrect those martyred great tribulation saints to reign and rule with Him for one thousand years. Revelation 20:4-6.

 

[Deleted member 26788]

After the rapture has taken place, the great tribulation will begin here on earth.

During the great tribulation, there will be many persons who turn to Christ and become Christians. Some of them will be martyred for their testimony of Jesus.

When Jesus returns, He will resurrect those martyred great tribulation saints to reign and rule with Him for one thousand years. Revelation 20:4-6.

There is a confliction in what you have written .do you see it ?

 

[Douggg]

There is a confliction in what you have written .do you see it ?

I can't read your mind of what you see as being a conflict.

 

[Douggg]

Yer? When does this happen? I would suggest that this gathering in the air to meet Christ will happen just before the GWTR judgement. The GWTR event is still over 1,000 years into our future. Then the end will come.

The timing of the rapture could take place today. But at the latest, the rapture has to take place before the Antichrist's transgression of desolation act of 2Thessalonians2:4.

 

[Deleted member 26788]

''After the rapture has taken place, the great tribulation will begin here on earth.''
''When Jesus returns, He will resurrect those martyred great tribulation saints to reign and rule with Him for one thousand years. Revelation 20:4-6.
after the rapture ?? the rapture ,according to those that say its going to happen ',takes all' that are Christian to heaven .which by the way is not going to happen.
only a few will be in the rapture event . all that have died, chosen and promised to be with the Christ, are already there in heaven .it can be known because of the signs given to look for have happened and continue to happen . Matthew 24
as there is a definite number in that kingdom arrangement the rapture could only take the ones that have not yet died . we know the first in that promise were the 12 . how many were chosen in the last 2000 years is not reveled ,its a unknown number that we don't need to know .
if you are wondering when will dodo happen , watch for the saying of '' peace and security ''