What really has been the argument about grace? How have people been so far apart in understanding on what grace is and what is it exactly supposed to do in believers. Well you have one that says with the grace of God if you make any mistakes that's ok because of the Grace of God. Then there is a side that has it's whole message in doing to make the grace of God work. And then the in-betweens that have no idea about either and they are just getting by hoping for the best. Grace has fundamentally been a place of conflict and separation for believer's among themselves. I have seen the two come to blows over who is right. I don't know if they still do that but it was not unusual for it to happen. They didn't punch it out because they were so set on their understanding but they would just get mad and it could come to something happening if wasn't stopped.
What you come to is both sides have alot of truth, but alot of truth is not really quite what you want. So with that what does our Bible's have to say about the Grace of God: First you have to start with when did the grace of God enter into the scheme of things on a full level and as a gospel message. I have to reiterate that if you cannot start where grace starts you cannot understand grace as a message in full. That has been the place of contention not 'rightly dividing the word of truth.'
Jesus! the scriptures say was "full of grace and truth," absultely without a dought. But Jesus though he was full of grace and truth it was not a gospel yet, it wasn't the message of his day. They were still under Moses law when Christ came to humanity in his Mary body.
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: - Galatians 1:6.
The grace of God puts you into something, and you can be removed from it as well. So the grace of God will have everything to do with your mind.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. - Galatians 5:4.
You can fall from grace according to scripture, but what causes you to fall from grace is what is at issue here. We have threatened around telling people they are going to hell and if they don't get back in right standing with God they are dead in the water. What is ironic is those that purport that kind of message are usually the ones that have fallen from grace back into self effort living with no grace and justify it by using the law, we are definitely a peculiar people.
What you come to is both sides have alot of truth, but alot of truth is not really quite what you want. So with that what does our Bible's have to say about the Grace of God: First you have to start with when did the grace of God enter into the scheme of things on a full level and as a gospel message. I have to reiterate that if you cannot start where grace starts you cannot understand grace as a message in full. That has been the place of contention not 'rightly dividing the word of truth.'
Jesus! the scriptures say was "full of grace and truth," absultely without a dought. But Jesus though he was full of grace and truth it was not a gospel yet, it wasn't the message of his day. They were still under Moses law when Christ came to humanity in his Mary body.
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: - Galatians 1:6.
The grace of God puts you into something, and you can be removed from it as well. So the grace of God will have everything to do with your mind.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. - Galatians 5:4.
You can fall from grace according to scripture, but what causes you to fall from grace is what is at issue here. We have threatened around telling people they are going to hell and if they don't get back in right standing with God they are dead in the water. What is ironic is those that purport that kind of message are usually the ones that have fallen from grace back into self effort living with no grace and justify it by using the law, we are definitely a peculiar people.
