The Present (with Religion)

[Jethro Tull]

-----I am the way, the truth and the life.No one goes to the father except through me.Jesus, John 14:6He is literally saying that he is the truth and the life. He does not say he is a man or God, he says he is truth and life. How could it be more clear or direct?Jesus is saying; if you know the truth and the life you know him.Knowing the truth and true life (a.k.a. Jesus) is the way.Jesus also says you have to go through him to get to God/heaven. In other words, you have to know the truth and the life before you can know God.The truth + the life = God.Jesus said, “You will know the truth and the truth will make you free.”Jesus is saying the truth will set you free from your own mind, your false self. Jesus said, “I have overcome the world.” Jesus is saying the truth will overcome deception, the mind of the world.Jesus said, "Your minds must be cleared of the falsehoods of this realm if you are to be taught Eternal Truth."Christians that believe a bearded man in a sheet and sandals will greet them when they die are going to be disappointed. That Jesus, the man Jesus, no longer exists, but the truth and the life, the spiritual Jesus, does exist.Jesus said, “The world will see me no more, but you will see me, because I live, you will live also, you are in me and I am in you.”Jesus said, “I am in spirit and truth.” Again, what he says is perfectly clear.The Bible says; You shall be like Jesus, for you shall see him as he is.False Christians: People that do not know the truth and the life cannot call themselves Christians. Jesus says you have to know the truth and life to know him, be like him. It is what the Bible says literally; it is not an interpretation.People that worship an image of a dead man do not know the truth and life.Jesus said, “People honor me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. They worship me in vain, teaching the precepts and principles of men.”-----From The Present (with religion), page 21 at: http://www.thetruthcontest.comI think we can get an intelligent, productive conversation started about this book. Do you think The Present (with religion) is the correct interpretation of Jesus and the Bible? Check it out for yourself and share your thoughts. What do you think?In peace and love

 

[Ruth]

Jesus does say He is God, Jesus spoke in ways of Old Testament scripture so the Jews would understand He was the son of God, is God, forgiving sins, only God could do this. You must seek Jesus to know this truth, the Holy Spirit will reveal this to you. Also a study of Jewish teachings in Christ life time would help you understand Jesus teaching, He was a rabbi, teaching as a rabbi, revealing He was God.Jesus is alive and well, crucified, resurrected, and sitting on the throne by His Father.

 

[SoldierforChrist]

Jesus said, “You will know the truth and the truth will make you free.”Jesus is saying the truth will set you free from your own mind, your false self.

Jesus will set you free from sin and death. That is what this verse is talking about.

Christians that believe a bearded man in a sheet and sandals will greet them when they die are going to be disappointed. That Jesus, the man Jesus, no longer exists, but the truth and the life, the spiritual Jesus, does exist.

Well I am not sure what Bible you have been reading, but it is clear that Jesus resurrected and that he is sitting in heaven beside God. In fact the whole new testament as well as our christian faith is centered around that fact. I could give you a list with countless verses. I will just give you a few though...Matthew 28:5-7And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified. He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead; and, behold, he goeth before you into Galilee; there shall ye see him: lo, I have told you.Luke 24:50-52And he led them out as far as to Bethany, and he lifted up his hands, and blessed them. And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven. And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great Acts 2: 30-36Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Until I make thy foes thy footstool. Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.[/i]

 

[gumby]

I beleive that jesus is always with god, always has been and i beleive always will be.

 

[Jordan]

And Jesus is God. (John 1:1)

 

[Jethro Tull]

Jesus will set you free from sin and death. That is what this verse is talking about.

More correctly, the truth and the life will set you free from sin and death. Jesus says he is the truth and the life, literally.

Well I am not sure what Bible you have been reading, but it is clear that Jesus resurrected and that he is sitting in heaven beside God. In fact the whole new testament as well as our christian faith is centered around that fact. I could give you a list with countless verses. I will just give you a few though...

-----The resurrection: The story of the resurrection is a metaphor which shows we must all rise from our dead selves to know the truth and the life.The problem is people are too dead to life to know they are dead to life.People are too unconscious to know that they are unconscious.They are too closed-minded to know that they are closed-minded.They are too asleep to know that they are asleep.The famous miracle of Jesus raising Lazarus from the dead is a good example of a saying that has been completely distorted and misinterpreted. Jesus said, “Our friend Lazarus is fallen asleep, but I go, that I may awaken him out of sleep.” John 11:11That is what the Bible says. He is saying Lazarus is just asleep. If he was dead and Jesus was going to bring him back to life, he would not have said it.Why would Jesus say Lazarus is just asleep if he was really dead?Jesus also said he was dead later, but he meant dead to life, not dead physically. Jesus said, “Whoever believes in me, but is dead, will live again.” That saying is the key to understanding what he really means. He cannot be talking about someone that is really dead, because they could not believe in him. Only someone that is just dead to life could believe in him. See what I mean?Jesus said, “I was dead, but now I am alive.”That is the only reference Jesus makes to resurrection in the Bible, and it is not referring to his physical death because he said it before he died. The myth that Lazarus was physically dead and that Jesus brought him back to life was created by people misinterpreting what he actually said and meant. The big sleep: It does not seem like much of a miracle to just wake someone up from sleep. The interpreter did not understand what Jesus was talking about. He did not realize that people are living in a state of waking sleep, a living death.Jesus said, "I have come so that you might have life, for the way of mortals is a living death.” Jesus is clearly saying the human race is spiritually dead.No one actually came back from the dead, that is impossible, but awaking from the state of waking sleep is possible; you just need the ultimate truth to do it.If you believe in the accepted interpretation of the Bible, you are asleep.The Lazarus story is a good example of how Jesus can say something profound and true, but it can be totally distorted and turned into a miracle myth.-----Page 42-43 of The Present (with religion) at Truth Contest