The Religion Box

[Levi]

.............., not some experience called spirituality.

When I see things like this it seems the person writing it has never experienced God for themselves in a real way. Too many people hang on to what happened to Paul, what happened to Peter, etc. and never experiencing God.

We walk in the Spirit, led by Him - it's supposed to be Spiritual! We live by the Spirit!

 

[Episkopos]

All mysticism is based on the occult. Christian mysticism is just mysticism dressed in Christian clothes.

And blindness is a lack of sight in any light!

Who is it that says being faithful to the revealed will of GOD is not knowing him? That's rather presumptuous, don't you think?

That depends how you see being faithful. People do a lot of things supposedly FOR God...but we as Christians are to do things IN God.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

When I see things like this it seems the person writing it has never experienced God for themselves in a real way. Too many people hang on to what happened to Paul, what happened to Peter, etc. and never experiencing God.
We walk in the Spirit, led by Him - it's supposed to be Spiritual! We live by the Spirit!

You have no idea what I have experienced.

 

[Levi]

You have no idea what I have experienced.

According to your posts, it's almost demonic to experience anything that has to do with God, so with this knowledge and evidenced through many of your posts on this forum, I doubt much.

 

[aspen]

God calls us - there is no shame in waiting on God for Him to reveal Himself

 

[Levi]

God calls us - there is no shame in waiting on God for Him to reveal Himself

And while they are waiting, maybe a person shouldn't bash on people who have had experiences with God.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

God calls us - there is no shame in waiting on God for Him to reveal Himself

Couldn't agree more

 

[aspen]

Well Levi, I am learning more about God wooing us and know that His Grace is abundant and mine is not so I am suspending my opinion about other people's experiences. Hopefully I will learn more. Thanks for your contribution!

 

[Levi]

Well Levi, I am learning more about God wooing us and know that His Grace is abundant and mine is not so I am suspending my opinion about other people's experiences. Hopefully I will learn more. Thanks for your contribution!

I agree with you.

I think the point of the recent conversation is that we can have experiences with God, He wants to reveal His glory to us, He wants to fellowship with us - He is not a silent partner! ;)

Praise God for all of it!!!

 

[Episkopos]

I agree with you.

I think the point of the recent conversation is that we can have experiences with God, He wants to reveal His glory to us, He wants to fellowship with us - He is not a silent partner! ;)

Praise God for all of it!!!

Agreed! We are to walk in actual fellowship with God in the light. We can walk as Jesus walked by the grace of God which is the power of Christ in us.

 

[Axehead]

There are different forms and extremes of mysticism that have given the word a bad name.

Union with Christ is the central truth of the whole doctrine of salvation. Two become one, yet are still two distinct persons.

Union with Christ is Christian mysticism. Nothing more, nothing less.

"The wide range of similitude used in Scripture to illustrate union with Christ is very striking. On the highest level of being it is comopared to the union which exists between the persons of the trinity in the Godhead. This is staggering, but it is the case (John 14:23; 17:21-23). On the lowest level it is compared to the relation that exists between the stones of a building and the chief corner stone (Eph. 2:19-22; I Pet. 2:4,5). In between these two limits there is a variety of similitude drawn from different levels of being and relationship. It is compared to the union that existed between Adam and all of posterity (Rom. 5:12-19; I Cor. 15:19-49). It is compared to the union that exists between man and wife (Eph. 5:22-33; cf. Jn. 3:29). It is compared to the union that exists between the head and other members in the human body (Eph. 4:15,16). It is compared to the relation of the vine and the branches (John 15). ...The mode, nature, and kind of union differ in the different cases. There is similitude but not identity. (John Murray, Redemption: Accomplished and Applied. pg. 167,168)

Spiritual union and communion with Christ is Christian mysticism, no more, no less.

 

[Episkopos]

1Co 2:4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
1Co 2:5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
1Co 2:6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
1Co 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
1Co 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Spiritual union and communion with Christ is Christian mysticism, no more, no less.

I strongly disagree. There is too much evil behind mysticism to make that kind of equivocating statement..

 

[Levi]

Having fellowship with Christ takes us out of the human realm and into the spiritual realm where supernatural happenings occur!

Read The Revelation!!!

We dwell with Him, it's where things happen - transformations, miracles, dreams, visions, and countless other ways He chooses to reveal Himself to us! It's all a mystery! Who can explain it!

 

[Episkopos]

I strongly disagree. There is too much evil behind mysticism to make that kind of equivocating statement..

You are calling evil good and good evil....you are stacking sin on other sins? Why is that necessary?

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Having fellowship with Christ takes us out of the human realm and into the spiritual realm where supernatural happenings occur!
Read The Revelation!!!
We dwell with Him, it's where things happen - transformations, miracles, dreams, visions, and countless other ways He chooses to reveal Himself to us! It's all a mystery! Who can explain it!

I've been there friend. It's not all as it seems.

 

[Levi]

I've been there friend. It's not all as it seems.

You've been where? Sorry, I'm not quit understanding what you mean.

 

[Episkopos]

I've been there friend. It's not all as it seems.

Do you mean you read nooks on the subject..or that you where filled with the Spirit and it's not all it's cracked up to be?

 

[Levi]

Most people I know, once they've tasted of the Lord - they want more of Him, never heard anyone say otherwise.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Do you mean you read nooks on the subject..or that you where filled with the Spirit and it's not all it's cracked up to be?

When I got saved, I gave away everything I had and emptied myself for GOD. I won't go into detail about what I experienced, but I will say that some of it was demonically influenced. The only things that kept me from believing it was from GOD were the word in my heart and the discerning spirit GOD gave me.