The Wrath...of God Or Of Satan?

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Choir Loft
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Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.​

Wrath of God or of satan?

Both and neither because as you quoted above IT IS WAR.

Look at the wars of man. Can one who is caught in the middle of conflict say easily that 'this is a war of side A or this is a war of side B'? They cannot and they do not for they are only wishing to get out of the way of the combatants altogether. So do we in regard to the war in heaven which has come to us upon the earth. "Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea!"

The Bible has stated over and over again that Christ is our captain and that He is the one that battles. When we try to do so in our own power, we fail. Every time. Asking whose war it is, is rather a moot point since it is upon us whether we like it or not.

The only thing we can do is choose sides.
 

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They're falling around us all the time Veteran...falling into deception, falling from their rightful place in heaven. They love the Lord but still...they fall for the deception "if possible," and...it is possible.

With regard to your interpretation of scripture to suggest that ANY demon or unclean spirits "love the Lord", you are entirely wrong.
None of the kingdom of satan love the Lord.

In fact, they hate Him with an undying hatred. They flee from Him in any and every instance as daylight chases away the darkness.
In fact, they do not understand God whatsoever. Strangely, even Chrisitans seem to have more understanding than they do. A great deal more.

The idea that spiritual entities can be coaxed or 'saved' appears nowhere in the Bible.
The idea that humans can be coaxed or 'saved' AFTER death is pretty much a trap laid for those who prefer to delay their own final decision about accepting God or not.

No man can sit on the fence for long.
The demons and unclean spirits have already made their decision.
 

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With regard to your interpretation of scripture to suggest that ANY demon or unclean spirits "love the Lord", you are entirely wrong.
None of the kingdom of satan love the Lord.



I never suggested that nor do I understand how you saw that in what I wrote??? Demons believe in Him for it is written....


James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.​

However, those I was speaking of that love the Lord are not demons...rather they are those that are being and shall be deceived.




In fact, they hate Him with an undying hatred. They flee from Him in any and every instance as daylight chases away the darkness.
In fact, they do not understand God whatsoever. Strangely, even Chrisitans seem to have more understanding than they do. A great deal more.

The idea that spiritual entities can be coaxed or 'saved' appears nowhere in the Bible.
The idea that humans can be coaxed or 'saved' AFTER death is pretty much a trap laid for those who prefer to delay their own final decision about accepting God or not.

No man can sit on the fence for long.
The demons and unclean spirits have already made their decision.


Did anyone write that spiritual entities could be saved or coaxed?

You are mistaken on the fact that many of the spiritually dead will indeed be given an opportunity to follow Him during the millennium. That is the purpose of the millennium.



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