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Taken

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Trump, contrary to the gold images his followers made of him

What is your proof of who made the “images” you speak of?

and statements by people like Paula White,

What “statements” of Paula , has your concern?

is not God nor are his demands equivalent to the word of God.

No clue what demands you are speaking of.

Sexual assault, adultery, fraud and pedophilia enabling are not of God.

Sinless Perfection is of God…and I can not name a single human who declares himself equal to God.
 

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What is your proof of who made the “images” you speak of?



What “statements” of Paula , has your concern?



No clue what demands you are speaking of.



Sinless Perfection is of God…and I can not name a single human who declares himself equal to God.
b arbarian cannot help you taken . In fact he already believes as does much of the nar realm .
THEY are all b uying into the same lie now . i told us this ecumeincal intefaith was on b oth sides .
JESUS has been denied . NO one bothers to help me defend the gospel at all .
And bar barian , you should see how he answered me on my posts on another thread .
And not a soul one of the left or the right
or the protestant or catholic realm
WOULD HELP me DEFEND THE GOSPEL .
cause you all bought a lie is why . A LIE .
WELL hear this . IF it costs me everything and all cast me out
STILL TO JESUS CHRIST ALONE shall i point with the dire reminder that all other religoins be false
AND YE MUST ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST to be saved . So keep that in mind .
But b arbarian cannot help you . Hardly any of them now can . WHEN you buy a lie
it seems they fell in love with a lie . As for me , TO JESUS SHALL I POINT and offer up not even a bare whiff of false hope .
I SHALL ONLY OFFER UP JESUS THE CHRIST , WITH THE DIRE REMINDER and the ABSOLUTE NEED to have BELEIVED ON HIM .
And if i be outcast for doing so , THEN AMEN . even killed for doing so , THEN AMEN .
AT LEAST I pointed to the ONLY ONE WHO COULD SAVE . and GAVE HIM the GLORY and not rather A LIE THE GLORY .
 
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Remembering D-Day Anniversary.
God Bless Our Military and those who gave their lives for our Freedom.


God Bless America!

We Do A Little Trolling
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God Bless Our Military and those who gave their lives for our Freedom.

John Kelly confirms Trump privately disparaged U.S. service members and veterans

Trump called fallen soldiers "suckers” and "losers" during his presidency, according to a 2020 report in The Atlantic.

Veteran here. So yes, I know Gen. Kelly is telling the truth. A combat veteran vs. a draft dodger. Not much of a choice, is it?
 

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Obama says that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as anyone else in this country.

Let's see what America's founders say...

The bill for establishing religious freedom, the principles of which had, to a certain degree, been enacted before, I had drawn in all the latitude of reason & right. It still met with opposition; but, with some mutilations in the preamble, it was finally passed; and a singular proposition proved that its protection of opinion was meant to be universal. Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed, by inserting the word “Jesus Christ,” so that it should read, “a departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion.” The insertion was rejected by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo, and infidel of every denomination.
“Jefferson’s Autobiography,” The Avalon Project, Yale Law School, https://teachingamericanhistory.org/73r6.

Looks like Obama has it right. At least for Americans, he does.
 

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My President established the White House Office of Faith, and appointed Pastor Paula White to oversee such Office.
Which is obviously to appeal to (largely) white Evangelicals who put their trust in Trump and MAGA instead of God. It's all a ruse; clear as day to anyone who has the eyes to see.

Despite, her unconventional theologian methods…
I have no doubt, Paula White is a Submitted and Committed child of God, and works for Him.
I have no doubt she is 100% a false prophet. I also have no doubt that God put Trump in place to expose the idolatry, false teaching, and heresy that exists in the visible church in the West, but mostly in the U.S. It is the equivalent of:

2Ti 4:3 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions,
2Ti 4:4 and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. (ESV)

Trump is the embodiment of all the worldliness and wickedness and idolatry in the visible church, the sum of the desires of many Evangelicals. This is the exposing and filling up of sin prior to God's judgement.
 

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Trump is the embodiment of all the worldliness and wickedness and idolatry in the visible church, the sum of the desires of many Evangelicals. This is the exposing and filling up of sin prior to God's judgement.
Trump is a weak and easily-led person, who has allowed stronger and evil men to use him, by catering to his appetites and vanity.
 

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God neither needs nor wants a government handout. Government support for any religion corrupts it.

God Offers humans an Invitation to Believe and an Invitation to Believe and Become MADE by the Power of God forgiven and Sanctified.

God requires a mans Hearts Belief and His Body.

The US Federal Government requires of its allegiance of Service; a mans Word (oath) and a mans Signature (signed in the Year of Our Lord.)

It is VIA the Lord God Almighty the USA and her citizens ARE a Free People.

If you find it offensive for elected, appointed or hired employees of the US government to acknowledge, mention, praise, appeal to, Thank the Lord God Almighty …
You are Free to Travel, Establish a home under a Governance who does no such things.

That's why the founders of America, having seen what established religion had done in Europe and the Middle East, wanted none of it.[/QUOTE]

God Himself established Liberty and FREEWILL for men to Choose.
The USA, not having a National Religion, does NOT negate the FACT the USA was established on The Principles and Standards of Christianity.


"I now make it my earnest prayer, that God would have you and the State over which you preside, in his holy protection that he would incline the hearts of the Citizens to cultivate a spirit of subordination and obedience to Government, to entertain a brotherly affection and love for one another, for their fellow Citizens of the United States at large..." - George Washington

"I hold the precepts of Jesus, as delivered by himself, to be the most pure, benevolent, and sublime which have ever been preached to man." - Thomas Jefferson

"I pray heaven to bestow the best of blessings on this house and all that shall hereafter inhabit it. May none but the wise men ever rule under this roof." - John Adams


Glory to God,
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Trump is a weak and easily-led person, who has allowed stronger and evil men to use him, by catering to his appetites and vanity.

I find Trump is an unashamed God loving, Very generous, hard working and a diligent asset to the US government… despite naysayers (such as yourself) and the Daggers hurled in his back for years.

Glory to God,
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Which is obviously to appeal to (largely) white Evangelicals who put their trust in Trump and MAGA instead of God.

Hogwash!


I have no doubt she is 100% a false prophet.

I would not categorize Paula White as a prophet.

Trump is the embodiment of all the worldliness and wickedness and idolatry in the visible church, the sum of the desires of many Evangelicals. This is the exposing and filling up of sin prior to God's judgement.

Seems you have appointed yourself Judge. I disagree with your Personal Opinion.
 
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God equips those who serve Him.
Fake prosperity preachers such as Paula White are equipped by satan, deceiving Trump supporters.
It will all come out in the open.
All the garbage will be coming out for all to see.
All signs on the political front are pointing towards all out disaster.
Liars and fornicators will get their reward.
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Trump support went below 19% and dropping daily.
 
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I find Trump is an unashamed God loving, Very generous, hard working and a diligent asset to the US government… despite naysayers (such as yourself) and the Daggers hurled in his back for years.

Glory to God,
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"God loving"? Seriously? He has admitted he isn't a Christian. His actions, his words, and his tweets show that he has zero fear of God and no knowledge of Scripture.

"Very generous""? To his family and wealthy friends and anyone who makes large donations to him, yes. But taking money from the poor while enriching himself is the opposite of being generous.

"Diligent asset to the US government"? Do you not know that he is literally ruining your country because he has no clue as to what he is doing, apart from doing things that increase his, his family's, and his friends' wealth? Do you not know of the numerous appointments he has made to positions in the administration of people who are absolutely unqualified--Hegseth, Bondi, RFK Jr., etc.? We can look at his callous disregard for law; the list is almost endless. And then there is everything else. He might be a diligent asset to another country, but certainly not the U.S.
 

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No, it's very true. The very ideas of MAGA and "Christian" nationalism are idolatrous.

I would not categorize Paula White as a prophet.
False teacher, false prophet. Take your pick.

Seems you have appointed yourself Judge. I disagree with your Personal Opinion.
It's just based on observation and comparing that with Scripture. We are to judge false teaching in the church. The result of not doing so is what much of Evangelicalism has become--full of error and heresy, worldliness and even wickedness.
 
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You've been fleeced. Trump is only saying what he needs to to keep the support of (largely) white Evangelicals. It's all just words to him. There has been absolutely zero in Trump and his administration that has actually been God-honouring. It's propaganda for the purpose of support, nothing more. How that is not obvious to those who claim to follow Christ is very concerning.
 

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John Kelly confirms Trump privately disparaged U.S. service members and veterans

Trump called fallen soldiers "suckers” and "losers" during his presidency, according to a 2020 report in The Atlantic.

Veteran here. So yes, I know Gen. Kelly is telling the truth. A combat veteran vs. a draft dodger. Not much of a choice, is it?

Modern Presidents Who Avoided the Draft​

Bill Clinton received multiple educational deferments while attending Georgetown University and later as a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford. He also enrolled in the ROTC program at the University of Arkansas Law School to avoid immediate induction but ultimately did not serve in Vietnam, benefiting from a high draft lottery number and legal deferments

George W. Bush joined the Texas Air National Guard during the Vietnam era, a unit rarely activated for combat. Critics have questioned whether family connections facilitated his entry and whether he fulfilled all service obligations, making his Guard tenure a point of political scrutiny

Donald Trump received four student deferments during college and a medical deferment for bone spurs, which classified him as 4-F and exempted him from service. These deferments were legal under the Selective Service system but have been politically controversial

Joe Biden obtained student deferments while in college and a medical deferment for asthma, resulting in a 1-Y classification, meaning he would only be drafted in a national emergency. Like the others, his avoidance of Vietnam-era combat has been scrutinized politically

My Father wanted to join the military but he had a perforated eardrum and was denied.
My Brother wanted to be a Pilot but he was color blind and had flat feet, (no arch) and was denied.

The Draft had ended by the time Obama was of age to enlist.

While exact numbers for all evasion methods are hard to pin down, the combination of emigration, deferments, exemptions, and non-induction meant that a large share of eligible men avoided active duty. The draft was eventually terminated in 1973, and the Selective Service System was replaced with an all-volunteer force in 1973.

In summary:

  • Emigration: ~60,000–100,000 men left the U.S.
  • Total avoidance: >50% of 27 million eligible men were deferred, exempted, or disqualified
  • Other evasion: Hundreds of thousands used deferments, medical disqualifications, or failed exams to avoid service
 
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