Trump has abandoned America First

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This I can agree with, but not for the reasons you may think

We are Israel, and we broke the covenant that's why what happened to us happened, however the bones are waking up and you definitely pay for your evil deeds

Deuteronomy 30:7 "And the Lord thy God will put all these curses upon thine enemies, and on them that hate thee, which persecuted thee."

Deuteronomy 28:45-68

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45 Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee:
46 And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.
 

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Donald Trump sold us a lie. That lie was America first, or MAGA, for short.

America first has never been about America only. America has always engaged in foreign diplomacy and international cooperation. We have never been an island unto ourselves, and it's impossible in this day and age anyway. With modern technology, the world is much smaller than it used to be. What happens on the other side of the world can and does affect us. It is therefore sometimes in America's best interests to align with other nations. That does not mean we put their interests before ours; it only means that we have mutual interests that benefit both parties.


You oppose giving Israel billions of dollars in foreign aid to conduct a genocide in Gaza while Americans are living paycheck to paycheck and our veterans get absolutely nothing?

We don't usually just give money away, there are strings attached. With Israel, it's done so Israel has to spend it on equipment purchased from U.S. contractors. The whole genocide narrative I reject completely, and I've already addressed it numerous times.

He was elected to put an end to the wars. The Ukraine war is still raging, and now this administration is apparently entertaining the idea of going to war with Venezuela...

He's helping to stomp out the fires, but it's not on him alone. With the Ukraine War, there's lots of players involved including Russia and the EU. Everyone has to want peace for it to work, but not everyone wants peace. Some people have a vested interest in having a war.

You have to understand how Trump operates. Everyone thought we were going to get in a major war when we bombed Iran, but that didn't happen. He knows how to use leverage. In Venezuela, he's exerting pressure to get Maduro out of power. I don't foresee us actually going to war with Venezuela or sending in troops. A lot of it involves physiological operations. Watch how things play out before jumping to conclusions.
 
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America first has never been about America only. America has always engaged in foreign diplomacy and international cooperation. We have never been an island unto ourselves, and it's impossible in this day and age anyway. With modern technology, the world is much smaller than it used to be. What happens on the other side of the world can and does affect us. It is therefore sometimes in America's best interests to align with other nations. That does not mean we put their interests before ours; it only means that we have mutual interests that benefit both parties.
In principal, I agree. However, the problem is that our politicians are bought and paid for by corporations and lobbies in Washington. Both political parties have been captured. Thus, America First as a concept, is rendered impossible in the current state of politics. We see this on full display with Israel; often Israel's interests are at odds with America's interests, and in these cases, our elected officials support Israeli interests over America's interests.

We don't usually just give money away, there are strings attached. With Israel, it's done so Israel has to spend it on equipment purchased from U.S. contractors. The whole genocide narrative I reject completely, and I've already addressed it numerous times.
How does it benefit the United States to give Israel our money to spend on US contractors for defense? Why don't they spend their own money? Why does America have to subsidize Israeli defense to the tune of four billion dollars a year when our own people are suffering here at home?

The world is in agreement that what's happening in Gaza is a genocide. Whether you believe it or not means very little.

He's helping to stomp out the fires, but it's not on him alone. With the Ukraine War, there's lots of players involved including Russia and the EU. Everyone has to want peace for it to work, but not everyone wants peace. Some people have a vested interest in having a war.
Trump could stop it tomorrow by telling Zelensky to agree to the terms or we're pulling the plug. Why doesn't he?

You have to understand how Trump operates. Everyone thought we were going to get in a major war when we bombed Iran, but that didn't happen. He knows how to use leverage. In Venezuela, he's exerting pressure to get Maduro out of power. I don't foresee us actually going to war with Venezuela or sending in troops. A lot of it involves physiological operations. Watch how things play out before jumping to conclusions.
I disagree. Trump has already spoken to Maduro on the phone and Maduro has made it clear he isn't leaving Venezuela. That makes Trump look weak. Especially with all the U.S. naval power surrounding the country. I suspect Trump will eventually give the order to invade. But you're right that we'll have to wait and see.
 

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I have a "good Gay mate" who agrees with me
What is a "good Gay"?

You think he is good because he agrees with your nonsense?

None are good.

Straight or gay.

There is only one good and that's Jesus Christ.


Verses like Romans 3:10 and Psalm 14;3 state that no one is righteous or does good, not even one, which is why salvation is considered a gift of grace through Jesus Christ, not something earned by human merit. The Bible teaches that only Jesus good.
 
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You know they are not the same. One is a political ideology, and the other is a political stunt.
For Trump it is only the Trump Family first.
Don't fool yourself, Witkoff, a longtime NY real estate buddy, and Trump's son in law, both UNELECTED are talking in Moscow.
It's all about money and business deals, that's the bottomline.
 
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For Trump it is only the Trump Family first.
Don't fool yourself, Witkoff, a longtime NY real estate buddy, and Trump's son in law, both UNELECTED are talking in Moscow.
It's all about money and business deals, that's the bottomline.
I suppose we should have tried harder to save Ukraine. I don't think so. Ukraine is more communist and Zelensky is more hated than Putin. Perhaps, the[re] is something in forcing them to fight it out, and weakening Russia further, but Ukraine loves to launder the money of globalists.
 
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I think the Blacks had it fine in the USA, a lot better off than the backward creep show of Africans in Africa Waring 24/7 you name it, such was so backwards !

All of the drible that the media peddled about The bad sides to them in regards to such Slavery ? but never the good side that may of been, Is never showen. Think about it ? no worries about paying Tax or having to build yourself a house, that's all a done deal !
White people in the main had to work bloody hard to make a go of it back in them days. it was no walk in the Park for most.

So painting the bad side of all such is fine but for going to far one sided nonsense all the time is in very poor show ! from classless people who know no better but for winding up people with dribble 24/7.

Bigest problem that I can see with such savegers is just that, they were Savegers ! Period ! same with The American Indians ! Backwards !

Why ? well not worthy Christians that's why ! Just like any white trash that is not civilised, you have to watch your back and everything as well in fact !

Blacks reap what they sowed ! were not civil enought to enter some places ? Just as it is with Trash Whites in fact, because their actions are not civil in fact ! That was the way it was ! but now after many generations and all things are much different now !

Still we have idiots regardless ! But the blacks in the USA are way more cultured than back in the days for sure !

I know it would be hard for younger generations to understand such things, for they never had to deal with such in fact !

I had to deal with such people when I was a Child and all that the Aboriginals wanted to do was fight ! that was their Culture ! Savagers in fact ! some were flat out speeking english ! No it was a Pain to have to deal with such people.
How is this you go out and have to deal with a Mob who only clearly want to do you over, want money etc, your shirt or Shoes, or what ever ? your Wife ! and a mob want to bash people up, just in the name of having a good time ?

Go 4x4 driving out in the bush and have to hit the brakes directly and reverse back as fast as you can and get out of their, bacause they will steal every thing they can ! good luck going to the Police, they could not careless ! as they can do nothing about it at all ! because the leftys undermine everything.

Good black people had to endure all of the crap due to the trash within their own ! but you do not see such good people saying publicly for their own Mob to wake up to themselves and cleen up their act and try and be be civil !

It's the Same deal with Gay people, Their is zero of the same, speaking out publicly on issues within the Gay comunity that is outright disgusting filth in fact ! and try and be seen as worthy Gays ! not just a Mob of jerks !

I have a good Gay mate who agrees with me, knowen him from 1985. he is not one of them filth mongers !

I have a good Full blood Aboriginal mate knowen from 1973 and he grew up in a Church Home, when he was 16 he left and lived with his own Mob ? and he was showing me in the house and bagging them Abo's full on, that they lived like Apes ?
He was not impressed !
He got stabbed in the gutts by a 1/4 cast as to himself trying to impersionating as being an Aboriginal ! the 1/4 cast claimed that he was just as Aboriginal as my mate ! so they demand to stand all over all Full blood Aboriginals who are in fact clearly being stood over by 1/4 cast or less demanding they are all equal ! and outright undermining the full blood's !
The Aboriginals say they are just that, but some are Islanders mixed Race 50/50 say or what ever and they would fight about all that till the cowes came home ! I seen it all go down for years.
Then when the Socialist got their way, hiding and peddling outright BS ! as their god !
But the Leftys do not understand reality ! they water dowen everything to become nothing but only dribble !

We need to have Names for good Gays that clearly are not a problem and another for the filth and worst !

We need to have Names for good blacks that are clearly not a problem and another for the lower and worst !

Same deal with White people who are nothing but an abomination !

For such people are like a Leach that is sucking the life blood out of the Nation in fact, Poisioning Wells is clearly their caper ! But look who holds them up demanding they are equals. The Lefty drongos !

Real Christianity, It's all about cleaning up yourself first and foremost ! and that Truth is King ! and BS and gutless degenerats is openly exposed ! for the greated good of ALL !
Not as the Socialist who are just like a Leach or a Tick latching to who ever they can, that makes one Sick until they drain the life blood out of you like a Vampire !
You mean that you are a leftist who approves chattel slavery, and fascism.
 

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often Israel's interests are at odds with America's interests, and in these cases, our elected officials support Israeli interests over America's interests.

Can you cite an example of how we are doing something in Israel's interests but is at odds with America's interests?

How does it benefit the United States to give Israel our money to spend on US contractors for defense? Why don't they spend their own money?

Well, it supports U.S. industries and tens of thousands of jobs for one. And money buys something else: influence and leverage. Israel does spend their own money too, to the tune of $20 billion a year. For the record, I do think foreign spending should be reduced.

The world is in agreement that what's happening in Gaza is a genocide. Whether you believe it or not means very little.

How do you judge that metric—by who screams the loudest? If that's the case, I can't argue with you there.

Trump could stop it tomorrow by telling Zelensky to agree to the terms or we're pulling the plug. Why doesn't he?

I suspect he hasn't done it to have leverage for negotiations. Would pulling the plug end the conflict sooner? Maybe, maybe not. The EU seems to be itching for a fight regardless.

I disagree. Trump has already spoken to Maduro on the phone and Maduro has made it clear he isn't leaving Venezuela.

We'll see. What Maduro says and what Maduro does may be two separate things.
 

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Can you cite an example of how we are doing something in Israel's interests but is at odds with America's interests?
Yes. Our unwavering support for Israel in their efforts to ethically cleanse the Palestinians for their Greater Israel project.

Well, it supports U.S. industries and tens of thousands of jobs for one. And money buys something else: influence and leverage. Israel does spend their own money too, to the tune of $20 billion a year. For the record, I do think foreign spending should be reduced.
It supports defense contractors and the military industrial complex. It doesn't support working class Americans or our own veterans who get treated like yesterday's garbage.

How do you judge that metric—by who screams the loudest? If that's the case, I can't argue with you there.
By the sheer scale of destruction and death in such a small strip of land which is the result of indiscriminate bombing. At least 65,000 dead and 20,000 of those are children. Aid workers have been killed by the IDF, as well as journalists.

I suspect he hasn't done it to have leverage for negotiations. Would pulling the plug end the conflict sooner? Maybe, maybe not. The EU seems to be itching for a fight regardless.
It would absolutely end the conflict sooner. Ukraine cannot continue the war without US support. As for the EU wanting to fight, my question is, with what army? The EU doesn't have a standing army. It has a collection of countries that are part of the union that have armies that all speak different languages, have no cohesion, and are not fit to fight.
 
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What is a "good Gay"?

You think he is good because he agrees with your nonsense?

None are good.

Straight or gay.

There is only one good and that's Jesus Christ.


Verses like Romans 3:10 and Psalm 14;3 state that no one is righteous or does good, not even one, which is why salvation is considered a gift of grace through Jesus Christ, not something earned by human merit. The Bible teaches that only Jesus good.
Well in regards Gays or what ever ? their could be a scale from 1 to 10 ? 10 being the worst of such depravity ?

Well in regards my Gay mate he does not come across as a filthy creep or one with Malice as his number one game play, Like one of his Gay mates was ! for this dude outright told me that he was 100% in total regards Malice to anyone who he did not like.
I did not like him at all but he was very smart dude. But I can deal with evil, I had to learn the hard way, so to get along in regards not to give light to such actions ?

The verses you put forward are the only worthy point that you made in fact ! and on that point dear boy, you should take heed ?

So why do you look so as to feed the least worthy ? you think everything is the same ? equal, do you. as in all Gays are equal ? like the Socialist demand you all to see with blinkers on like on a Horse ?

He is a good Gay ? he will clearly not want to take advantage of anyone, he is just a Boy man with some issues ?

As with many people I have had to deal with, who have issues, not Gay ? but in as anything that is not inspiring !
I think people like yourself should get out more and face the realitys of what is out their ! than just only clinging on to self rightious drible of this worlds religious nonsense that is all backed up by Satanic Socialist in fact.

Inspiration, is the deal, my dear boy. one needs to inspire people to think beyond their bounds of social conditioning, so as too incorrage ! that what one may learn something of value in fact. even if one does not like the Truth ! because True Christianity is all about the Truth in fact !
 

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Evil ? in regards this world ?
Evil is evil regardless who it is in fact, see that "who it is."
Europeans come now that is a wide statement, that clearly goes nowhere in fact ! you want to explaine some more on that topic.

I am not talking about Race but Traits that are not of value within all Nations ! but regards race it's a culture that may be I have lack of regards for some point or etc that is clearly valid.

Like the Japs lets say ? I look up to them on one hand as a society of their own !
Not that I would want to be in such my self ? but good on them for what they and their history was or were before WW2. They had a system of values that they were totaly happy with and it's not for me to stick my beak in and undermine their culture !

Same with who ever regardless their race or culture, but would I want it ? well why should I !
I am happy with my own culture say within regards, Not all tho, as their are points and issues I have with regards anything I want to call out in fact !
The same is with anyone opinions regardless anyones Nation or Race. For their is always issues regardless and a bad class of people within any Nation in fact ! who are a problem that gets up peoples nose.

On Race ? lets say ones own family or relations Cousins, their can be issues in fact that someone is a real problem ! So all this total BS about Hiding ones oppinions on Race is a Joke ! for if it's in fact True ! why hide the facts that their are issues ! Is that they way to fix the issues ? by sweeping such under the carpet ! untill everyone falles over it !

My regards Race is not based on Malice at all in fact, but reality and Truth ! not like Socialist peddle always hiding the Truth for an outright Lie ! Just like any idiot criminal low life clearly does live their life under a rock ! like a total fool ! because they fear the Light ! So they have to cover it all up in fact !
Not to mention that have to come out making stupid deceptions that lead others astray ! for such people are not worthy of God in fact, but are of this world, full of Cowards that live only for Lies ! for they are clearly of their father of Lies !
 

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You mean that you are a leftist who approves chattel slavery, and fascism.
I was on about the History !

I do not support Slavery ? Slavery has to do with Sin !

And all Slavery comes down to Sin !

Fact is that if one is not truly born again, then you is a Slave in fact ! a Slave to Sin ! Period !

You see the Father of all Lies, is of this world my dear boy ! For this world is Full of Deceptions and Delusions !

See that word Full ? it is so.

Now who works so as to leads people astray !
Socialist and Communist and Fascism are key Satanic works of Art !
Once one truly understands the workings of such, one may have your eyes open to such clearly, as in not to be taken in and taken for a ride! For stupid is, as stupid does !
 
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I was on about the History !

I do not support Slavery ? Slavery has to do with Sin !

And all Slavery comes down to Sin !

Fact is that if one is not truly born again, then you is a Slave in fact ! a Slave to Sin ! Period !

You see the Father of all Lies, is of this world my dear boy ! For this world is Full of Deceptions and Delusions !

See that word Full ? it is so.

Now who works so as to leads people astray !
Socialist and Communist and Fascism are key Satanic works of Art !
Once one truly understands the workings of such, one may have your eyes open to such clearly, as in not to be taken in and taken for a ride! For stupid is, as stupid does !
All forms of man`s Political systems are swayed by the evil one. Even so-called democracy - people`s rule. Says it all.
 

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All forms of man`s Political systems are swayed by the evil one. Even so-called democracy - people`s rule. Says it all.
This is a Modern Republic. Plato's republic was about government assistance, but many thinking it about free capitalism, and having no monarchs adopted what they thought were the structures inside. Democracy actually means mob rule by elite city people. It has the connotation in French of anarchy. It didn't originally have anything to do with representative government.
 
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