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Go cool of mate! temper temper old son ha!It seems to me that the Catholic Church claims all Prodestants are actually Catholic. They are just "protestors" and rebellious children. Now.... I'm about to unload on Mr. Rosenberger.... I won't do it soon, I'll let myself cool off.... But I will document what he said....
" I am maybe some sort of a follower of St Francis of Assisi that is the best thing i can refer to as some sort of denomination thing if you like.
I think denominations are all bull.
As there is only The Catholic Church and every other thing is just a load of rubbish! and no one can deny that fact! or if they do they have no idea what the word Catholic means.
As to the Bible one should know the history of how it came about, or one could get off track. and believe such rubbish like some say they are Bible believing ? as if some others are not ?
Even the Devil him self will use the Bible to his own ends as he knows it very well indeed. "
Oh.... Let the wild rumpus start!
It seems to me that the Catholic Church claims all Prodestants are actually Catholic. They are just "protestors" and rebellious children. Now.... I'm about to unload on Mr. Rosenberger.... I won't do it soon, I'll let myself cool off.... But I will document what he said....
" I am maybe some sort of a follower of St Francis of Assisi that is the best thing i can refer to as some sort of denomination thing if you like.
I think denominations are all bull.
As there is only The Catholic Church and every other thing is just a load of rubbish! and no one can deny that fact! or if they do they have no idea what the word Catholic means.
As to the Bible one should know the history of how it came about, or one could get off track. and believe such rubbish like some say they are Bible believing ? as if some others are not ?
Even the Devil him self will use the Bible to his own ends as he knows it very well indeed. "
Oh.... Let the wild rumpus start!
Go cool of mate! temper temper old son ha!
Hate is blindness bro!
I will help you add to your fire power bro as i would not give any denomination one red cent but i would just say that Jesus Christ only wants you to be in him and any thing other than that is just your !!!!!! foolish ego of good works. Anyone who gives money to any cause, is not what Christ wanted at all as it has noting to do with what Christ wants from us.
So get you filthy money place it in your teeth and place it in a cow patty.
Money grabbing lying power mad bastards denominations make me sick!
That is what you think and that's all.This is where it is frustrating to be a Christian Rationalist. Do you all think that denominations sprung out of the ground directly from the mind of the Enemy? That is a childish and uninformed view. Whether denominations are valid or not is a moot point since they do exist and do exist for a historical reason.
Most of the classic denominations arose from a clear and reasoned debate that could not be reconciled between believers, or arose because error crept into the existing congregations and a fracturing of the denomination was inevitable. That is not to say all denominations derive their validity from theological underpinnings. Take, for instance, the Northern and Southern Baptists. That schism was artificially created by politics (the slavery issue), not theology.
However, the original Protestant schism was on valid reasons, and not to form a new denominational hierarchy. Reforms were sought after in the Roman Church where legitimate abuses were discovered, those abuses Biblically verified, and reasonably addressed by the Reformers. But a hard line stance was taken by the Romanist ecclesiology against the persons rather than the issues and the results are what we are left with today.
So be careful when waving a dismissive hand at denominations. All you are really doing is waving your hands in the air proclaiming, "I have no understanding of history nor any inclination to alter that deficiency."
I know all about it bro.Wow! All I can do is shake my head and laugh! Mr. Rosenberger, a lot of the things you've charged against Protestants (and I don't consider myself one.... I do not belong to any denomination, nor was I ever Catholic to begin with) the Catholic Church is also guilty of. Foolish ego of good works? The Roman Catholic Church doesn't fit that description too? They don't want money? They've started false doctrines in order to make money.
All Protestant Churches have their darkness, but the Catholic Church has them all beat! They've started wars, had inquisitions which make any Protestant inquistions look like ants next to elephants and a long list of other things which could take up plenty of time to cover.
This is where it is frustrating to be a Christian Rationalist. Do you all think that denominations sprung out of the ground directly from the mind of the Enemy? That is a childish and uninformed view. Whether denominations are valid or not is a moot point since they do exist and do exist for a historical reason.
Most of the classic denominations arose from a clear and reasoned debate that could not be reconciled between believers, or arose because error crept into the existing congregations and a fracturing of the denomination was inevitable. That is not to say all denominations derive their validity from theological underpinnings. Take, for instance, the Northern and Southern Baptists. That schism was artificially created by politics (the slavery issue), not theology.
However, the original Protestant schism was on valid reasons, and not to form a new denominational hierarchy. Reforms were sought after in the Roman Church where legitimate abuses were discovered, those abuses Biblically verified, and reasonably addressed by the Reformers. But a hard line stance was taken by the Romanist ecclesiology against the persons rather than the issues and the results are what we are left with today.
So be careful when waving a dismissive hand at denominations. All you are really doing is waving your hands in the air proclaiming, "I have no understanding of history nor any inclination to alter that deficiency."