What Does 'Surely Die' Mean?

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IN MY OPINION one spirit per person.

Yes, exactly. Spirit never dies. Spirit has always existed because God has always existed. This throws a spanner into the 'annihilation' folks. Spirit cannot be destroyed. God does not kill himself.

Conversely, if Spirit never dies and if Spirit always existed, then guess what? *We* have always existed, at least in Spirit anyhow. That throws a spanner into the 'no pre-existence' folks. If we push the envelope on this concept, we discover that all of us here were the Morning Stars that sang together:

Job 38:7 - When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

That was us. God was using a hypophora with Job. We all fell to get here. We left our first love.

And the soul is nothing more or less than the functioning BRAINS in humans. Mind, Will, Emotions.....It. is the psyche.

That is man's definition. Scripture describes the Soul as genetics and genome. I side with the Word of God on this. Again, not to boast but I know more about this than most people on the planet. I have been taught by the best. I am not ignorant.

The Word was with God and the Word was God. The Word, the Genome, is God's Soul:
  1. Father
  2. Word <-Soul
  3. Holy Ghost
This is why we never see Jesus mentioned in a Heavenly context. He is symbolized as a 'slain lamb' or 'lion' or other things related to the Nucleobase and the Seed. Abraham's Seed is literally DNA.

Jesus does not sit on a throne next to the Father. He sits on the same throne. So does the Holy Ghost. In other words, Jesus is *merged* with the Father because he is the Father's Soul. He is literally *inside*.

The 'bosom' is code for Soul:

John 1:18 - No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Heart and Soul are a huge concept in the Bible. 'Tables of the Heart' is the Genome. The Law will be written in it one day. We call that Genetic Engineering. It is what it is.

Jesus is God's Genome/Soul and Jesus is God:

John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Kenosis is something folks still don't understand. Censorship.

Let's just pretend there is only ONE bible and then there's YOUR'S and MINE's OPINIONS.

Sorry, but what I write is fact.

The flesh has genetic material in whole body.

The Word was made flesh and 'tabernacled' with us...

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And triune us is spirit, soul, and FLESH.

Sure. We are Tripartite:
  1. Body
  2. Soul
  3. Spirit
But guess what? It's also this:
  1. Father = Body
  2. Word/Son = Soul
  3. Spirit = Spirit
It's the Word/Son part that folks don't understand. A big clue is right here:

Hebrews 7:9-10 - And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham. For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him."

Levi was 'in the loins of the Father'... LITERALLY. There's that pesky pre-existence again. Oops! lol. Abraham is an archetype for the Father in heaven. The Slain Lamb is 'in the bosom of the Father', like literally...

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The heart is the Throne of God. Tables of the heart is where you find the Seven Spirits of the Nitrogen Base. The Word of God.

Soul itsn't seen in a microscope, but flesh is. IMO.

Sure. The Soul is genetic information that lives on after death. It is invisible:

Romans 1:20 - For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

The invisible Word of God is manifested in everything, not just DNA.

The whole purpose of the Lake of Fire is to destroy the Soul because only the Lake of Fire can destroy information. Spirit is what is left over which goes back to God. It's God Eugenics. He is getting rid of unfruitful DNA. It's hardcore and ultra terrifying when one knows how the whole process works.

Interesting concept I 'll run with it from my paradigm...

I appreciate you sharing that. I will post my views.

Since the First Adam was only spirit and soul at the time of the 'surgery', there was no actual physical 'side of beef' flesh to 'split' in half.

This phrase is metaphorical:

Genesis 2:23 - And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

It's like an idiom...

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What is really being said is "This is now gene of my genes, soul of my soul, DNA of my DNA". The 'rib' is symbolic of genetics. Specifically, a 'race':

Daniel 7:5 - And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.

The 'ribs' in the above verse are specific races or nations of people:

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The 'bear' was doing 'ethnic cleansing'. Hardcore Eugenics.

So, we could say that Adam's rib represented the Nation of Israel. It is a specific bloodline, seed line, genome type, DNA type, however you want to label it. A rib is also symbolic of RNA.

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God made his Bride. Get it? The Marriage Supper is two strands of RNA, two 'Ribs', or two Chromatids joined together to form a new creature:

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So yeah, Jesus as the First Adam sacrificed himself for his Bride by willingly partaking of the Forbidden Zygote. He LITERALLY DIED. Do you see how important this is??? Did Jesus die for our sins or not?

The Kingdom of God is about the government of God....period. No spirit marriage in my bible. :Broadly:

I'm not sure what you mean by that. The Kingdom of God is within. It is cell biology, human physiology, seed, life. It is the microcosm of life:

Mark 4:26 - And he said, So is the kingdom of God, as if a man should cast seed into the ground;

God Eugenics. This will all be mainstream one day. I just happen to be ahead of most people with my understanding. It's like that movie Idiocracy. People think I'm a moron because what I write is over their heads.

The Redeemed will be able to self govern because the Law will be written into their genome tables of the heart. Their Soul.

Too much to deal with. We need to get to bite size or I am fading.

No worries. I hate debating so I probably will not have much more to say unless folks ask me a question.

Good nite bro. Time for bath and TV with my sugar booger........I mean wife.

Thanks again for hanging out with me.
 
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And the souls of all humans are not male nor female but feminine.

I forgot to comment on the above. Indeed our souls are feminine:

Psalms 34:2 - My soul shall make her boast in the LORD: the humble shall hear thereof, and be glad.

That puts a spanner into the beliefs of those that do not believe living organisms have a soul. Moreover, it is the soul that symbolically marries Jesus as per 2 Corinthians 11:2:

2 Corinthians 11:2 - For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

Again, this is because the soul is the genome. It is the feminine RNA that joins with Abraham's Seed in order for conception to take place. That is what the Marriage Supper is all about. It is symbolic of consummating the marriage:

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The difference is that, again, we are looking at genetic engineering and gene splicing as we all know there is no sex in Heaven. Thus, a special process is required to make babies. That is what being 'graffed in' is all about:

Romans 11:17 - And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

The olive tree is symbolic of what we now call a Chromatid. Two Witnesses, two olive trees, two candlesticks. It's DNA talk...

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The Candlestick is symbolic of Mitochondrial DNA which is passed down by the mother. It is feminine.

Think about the concept of becoming Born Again. According to Scripture, it is not lawful to have children before the marriage. So we must be careful about how we teach the concept. No children before marriage. That is something Christians never seem to acknowledge or consider when it comes to Resurrection Day and receiving the Glorified Body.

Now, look at the next verse after 2 Corinthians 11:2:

2 Corinthians 11:2-3 - For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

The 'marriage' is juxtaposed to what happened to Eve. The Forbidden Fruit represented conception into a corrupt body. Jesus is reversing that.
 

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The 'Stone with Seven Eyes' is what we now call a Nitrogen Base:

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'Eyes' are symbolic of Electrons as per Ezekiel's Wheels:

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The Spirit (Electromagnetism) was in the Wheels (Shells/Orbitals). 'Power of the Spirit' is literal. Like literally electronic information. Holy Ghost will teach. Get it?

Seven Eyes is the chemical element Nitrogen:
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The Slain Lamb is symbolic of a Nucleobase:

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The Word Made Flesh is what we now call 'Gene Expression':

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Enoch was 'translated' into the Glorified Body. These are Biology terms.
  • Abraham's Seed = Sperm
  • Rock = Testicle
  • Living Waters = Seminal Fluid
  • Slain Lamb = Nucleobase
  • Seven Spirits = Nitrogen
  • Word of God = DNA
  • etc. etc. etc.
It's all the same principle. God Eugenics.

The Human Race is about to be terminated and the petri dish wiped clean. God needs a solid legal case to do this. We are being given the reasons via symbology and euphemisms. Most Christians have no idea in the world what they are reading. They are still on the milk.

The Mark of the Beast is the other eugenics program. The choice is clear for those that understand the Kingdom of God Within.

It all has to be done 'by the book'. It takes a while. Patience of the Saints.
 

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And the soul is nothing more or less than the functioning BRAINS in humans. Mind, Will, Emotions.....It. is the psyche.

Don't just dismiss what I am teaching. I have no idea how much you know about genetics, but you should at least know that the genome plays a HUGE role on how 'carnal' or animalistic any living creature is. Mind, Will, Psyche and Emotions are directly tied to Genes... for better or for worse. God can read the code.

A mean wolf vs. a friendly golden retriever. What is the difference? Their soul? Yes, their DNA is slightly different.

A mean person vs. a friendly person. God can read the tables of the heart, i.e., the soul. The Lake of Fire eliminates carnal, animalistic genomes. God Eugenics. Christians are absolutely clueless on this.

Our Spirit is supposed to overcome the Soul Genome:

Galatians 5:17 - For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

It is a constant battle against our 'carnal' nature. Spirit vs. Soul. We are made of animal cells. It's not easy.
 

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I'm cool with what they came up with, however they could have done a better job explaining the details of how the Trinity works using science, biology, logic, Scripture etc.
I don't believe they could have. The Antichrist church had driven civilization into the DARK AGES. And their dealing with the theology that still impacts the WHOLE CHURCH today was also as poor. spiritually
Just remember that the Word was made flesh. We call that DNA now. We know what that is. Everything that Jesus is symbolic of points to genetics, aka, seed. Jesus is literally described as a Nucleobase in many passages. Seven is all about Nitrogen as in Nitrogen Bases. It's all there waiting for the right time to come out.
But FLESH never existed before EDEN. "In the beginning" God never had flesh DNA. JESUS got his "sinful flesh"(Rom 8:3) genetic nature from MARY. Who contributed her genetics and DNA only, to Jesus. The Holy Spirit has birthed ALL spirits ever created. None were a physical body.

NUM 16:22 And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, (animal, birds, beasts, sea)
NUM 27:16 Let the LORD, the God of the spirits of all flesh,


You say the genomics is in the spirit

HEB 12:9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?

So NUCLEOBASE is a bit of of a bust, for me.

Now, I'm going to sound boastful again, but whatever. As an engineering contractor and consultant, I have worked with several of the leading biotech companies on the planet. Some of the technology I have designed isn't even on the market yet. The stuff I have seen and worked on is terrifying. Anyhow, the point I am making is that I *KNOW* what Scripture is describing when it comes to genetics. It's obvious to me and others that are in this field. God has dedicated much of the writings of the Bible to be understood by Genetic Engineers when the time was right. Humanity is just now entering that phase. Some incredibly intelligent people that hide in the shadows helped me with this research. I did not do it alone.

The bottom line about Salvation is that it's about Eugenics, PERIOD. There are two kinds of Eugenic programs at war with each other:
  • God's Eugenics Plan
  • Man's Eugenics Plan
If it has little to no scripture to back it, except for "straining it as a gnat" then yes it does sound pretty boastful. WAY too much academics for me, but still thought provoking also.
Coincidentally, the Epstein files are revealing the mankind version to the public at this very moment. :csm
It's revealing that there is supernatural Satan worshiping power at the top. The supreme source of our governmental problems are spiritual IN MY OPINION .
And now you have little spirit emphasis compared to Academic gurus input. That honestly does concern me. How many of your teachers/companies/genetic engineers, over all these decades you keep sharing about, are renowned for their faith? I'm hearing crickets there. That again concerns me.
I was a Catholic for over three decades until the interwebz came along and woke me up.

I was one for 2 decades. And there was no interwebz too wake me up, but there was more 'Christian supernatural' going on than I see today, in a church that is also bloated with the knowledge of educated men.
You're worried about the time left, I'm not....and neither is GOD. IN MY OPINION . :dusted:

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Yes, exactly. Spirit never dies. Spirit has always existed because God has always existed. This throws a spanner into the 'annihilation' folks. Spirit cannot be destroyed. God does not kill himself.
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Conversely, if Spirit never dies and if Spirit always existed, then guess what? *We* have always existed, at least in Spirit anyhow. That throws a spanner into the 'no pre-existence' folks. If we push the envelope on this concept, we discover that all of us here were the Morning Stars that sang together:
No we haven't always existed. Not sure when the Holy Spirit birthed all the spirits which were placed in the dirt bodies of EDEN before the Garden was planted. Just know they were all triune when He finished. And only ONE had an anointed/christo spirit when God took him to the Garden He had just got back from creating.

The Word was with God and the Word was God. The Word, the Genome, is God's Soul:
  1. Father
  2. Word <-Soul
  3. Holy Ghost
This is why we never see Jesus mentioned in a Heavenly context. He is symbolized as a 'slain lamb' or 'lion' or other things related to the Nucleobase and the Seed. Abraham's Seed is literally DNA.
ROM 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.


You have 'the letter down' 'after the flesh' but He is not a Nucleiobase IMO. That is "in the spirit".

Jesus does not sit on a throne next to the Father. He sits on the same throne. So does the Holy Ghost. In other words, Jesus is *merged* with the Father because he is the Father's Soul. He is literally *inside*.
I agree ONE throne; They are ONE spirit The flesh body of Jesus has been glorified into a "spiritual body" after the cross. And "soul" of the Father is "pleased to dwell in John the Baptist back then.

MAT 12:18 Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my Spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.

question was John the Baptist also GOD on earth according to your understanding above? Or does God's Spirit being "UPON" John give your theology a pause?



Sure. We are Tripartite:
  1. Body
  2. Soul
  3. Spirit
But guess what? It's also this:
  1. Father = Body
  2. Word/Son = Soul
  3. Spirit = Spirit
It's the Word/Son part that folks don't understand. A big clue is right here:
I always struggle with those who don't get the order right biblically. No where does scripture say
1. body
2. soul
3. spirit.

1TH 5:23* And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
God first IMO.

Since the First Adam was only spirit and soul at the time of the 'surgery', there was no actual physical 'side of beef' flesh to 'split' in half.

The first Adam was made out of the dust of EDEN without a spirit or soul, until the Holy Spirit birthed a spirit into Adam. That spirit animated (gave life energy) to Adam's dead brain and his brain started functioning and telling his body what to do according to the WORD coming from the christos spirit within Adam. And Adam was a living soul from that day until he sinned. Then the curse of the Garden came upon him.


Thanks again for hanging out with me.
We don't have to agree, to get along. :shine: