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What is ‘an hireling’?

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  1. VictoryinJesus

    VictoryinJesus Well-Known Member

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    What is ‘an hireling’?

    John 10:11-13 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.

    But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.

    The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.

    I really do not know what an hireling is. This passage makes me think of John 12:4-6 Then saith one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, which should betray him, [5] Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor? [6] This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein.

    Earlier in the passage of ‘an hireling’ is
    John 10:8-10 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them. [9] I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. [10] The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

    Is an hireling a thief?

    Also in the passage of ‘an hireling’ is “But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: (caring not) and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.”

    Luke 11:23 He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth.

    HIRELING
    hir'-ling (sakhir):
    Occurs only 6 times in the Old Testament, and uniformly means a laborer for a wage. In Job 7:1 f there is reference to the hireling's anxiety for the close of the day. In Isaiah 16:14 and 21:16 the length of the years of a hireling is referred to, probably because of the accuracy with which they were determined by the employer and the employee. Malachi (3:5) speaks of the oppression of the hireling in his wages, probably by the smallness of the wage or by in some way defrauding him of part of it.
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    In the New Testament the word "hireling" (misthotos) occurs only in John 10:12, where his neglect of the sheep is contrasted unfavorably with the care and courage of the shepherd who owns the sheep, who leads them to pasture and lays down his life for their protection from danger and death.

    John 21:17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
     
  2. Charlie24

    Charlie24 Active Member

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    Who would be a good example of a hireling?

    In a live interview with Larry King, Joel Osteen was asked why he didn't talk about the Cross, or the Blood of the Lamb?

    Osteen said, we don't want to insult anyone! Although he is known for motivational speaking, he is still a pastor of a church.

    Is this an example of a hireling? He clearly does not teach the Gospel according to the scripture!
     
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  3. VictoryinJesus

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    I don’t know Joel Osteen. Wouldn’t say he is any worse then hell fire and brimstone pastors speaking death and hell more abundantly.

    Is an hireling a servant, to sin, or a Son?
    John 8:31-37 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; [32] And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. [33] They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free? [34] Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. [35] And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. [36] If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. [37] I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

    Definitely makes me consider they claimed to seek the kingdom of God ...yet He said but you seek to kill me.
     
  4. Charlie24

    Charlie24 Active Member

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    I think Paul describes a hireling pretty well in 2Tim. 4:3-4,

    "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

    And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables."

    This speaks of those who hire a pastor to hear what they want to hear, the smooth and comfortable word. They don't want to hear the truth of God's Word. That brings conviction of sin, they will pay handsomely not to hear that.

    In other words, a hireling!
     
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    amigo de christo Well-Known Member

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    Yes . They preach things only for a means of wealth . To keep numbers large and incomes big .
    They are hirelings , they do as they do for the sake of financial gain or to be seen of men and praised of men .
     
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    amigo de christo Well-Known Member

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    Yes . And now a word from JESUS .
    But the sheep do not hear them . For they follow not the voice of a stranger , they follow THE KING
    and a strangers voice they will flee it .
    For a lamb loves truth . By grace the love of Truth has been poured into its heart .
    Let the glorious LORD be praised .
     
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    amigo de christo Well-Known Member

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    A true seasoned leader of any group would preach and behold on BOTH the severity and the goodness of GOD .
    They will omit neither one .
    They will expound on both .
     
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    For a man who will not teach nor behold the severity o GOD , is a man
    that will also preach a false goodness . And one who wont behold the goodness of GOD , wont point to Christ either .
    An example of a false goodness is , OH GOD IS LOVE , He would never send anyone to hell
    or its okay to sin GOD understands . SEE that is a false goodness and its due to a lack of beholding the true severity of GOD .
    And on the other foot , we have those like westboro baptist who only preach severity and even that is off
    cause they never point to Christ , instead they condemn and even sing songs about folks going to hell .
    WE MUST both behold and speak on the goodness and severity of GOD .
     
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    amigo de christo Well-Known Member

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    Heres a good example about a man who is preaching a false goodness and where this false goodness has also
    led many folks within those churches.
    In romans paul even tells them or do you not behold the goodness of GOD which leadeth to repentance .
    Yet today their version seems to lead folks not to repentance , but rather ACCEPTANCE of sin .
    Instead of leading them to the true Christ , they lead them to another jesus . One which accepts sin .
    And we all know JESUS is not the ministir of sin . HE came to set us free from sin and not to feel free TO SIN .
     
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    A hireling is one who has only his own self-interest at heart, and is focused primarily on the monetary rewards of doing something. The hireling prophet Balaam is a good example in the book of Numbers. Elisha's servant Gehazi is another good example.

    Many employees in businesses have the same attitude towards their work. They will work as little as possible, extend their breaks as much as possible, and do only enough to keep from being fired. It gets even worse when people work for governments and for public school systems. They believe the world owes them a living.

    When pastors are hired as employees of churches, they tend to become hirelings. They forget what the ministry of a pastor or shepherd really is. And having one man becomes the pastor of a whole congregation simply is unbiblical and unfair. That is why God required a plurality of pastor/elder/bishops in all the churches.
     
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    I think the previous post are adding way too much to the meaning of hireling. I'm going off the top of my head here, and from the passage, a hireling is one who is rented, he does not have a vested interest in the well-being of that which he was hired for. He is transient and indifferent. This is not evil in and of itself, a hireling in other words, is not the owner or an heir, he is a part time or temporal assistant for a short-term contract.

    Jesus just used this to depict one who is not devoted to the cause, he is not a charlatan, but one's who's employment arrangement does not make it worthwhile for him to either extend, or sacrifice himself for his employer's interest. I think that Jesus differentiates this by acknowledging the wolves, possibly? In other words, all those who came before him, whether sincere or not, were temporal, they did not come to give their lives for the sheep.
     
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    thank you for an interesting perspective.
     
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    This is where versions come in handy maam. The original word is:
    misqwtovß Misthotos (mis-tho-tos');
    Word Origin: Greek, Adjective, Strong #: 3411
    and it means: one hired, a hireling

    Another version reads those verses this way:
    (John 10:11-15) . . .I am the fine shepherd; the fine shepherd surrenders his life in behalf of the sheep. 12 The hired man, who is not a shepherd and to whom the sheep do not belong, sees the wolf coming and abandons the sheep and flees—and the wolf snatches them and scatters them— 13 because he is a hired man and does not care for the sheep. 14 I am the fine shepherd. I know my sheep and my sheep know me, 15 just as the Father knows me and I know the Father; and I surrender my life in behalf of the sheep.

    Hope that helps
     
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    a person who does it for the money/gain yet has no vested interest.
     
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