What is fair?

[DPMartin]

Biblically speaking it’s an adjective to describe a woman or a flower or the weather of which is the only use I found in the British OED even as a noun or verb.

But that certainly isn’t the use in the US of A.


The Lord God isn’t fair in the American thinking of fair being free from favor toward either or any side, a proper balance of conflicting interests.

So many Americans see God as unfair and that isn’t what He ought to be in their own judgement. God is unfair but He is what He ought to be, so “fair” is an unrealistic expectation because God does show favor, and does side with His anointed.

so basically people these days think its not fair that God would allow the destruction or death of what they value.

 

[JohnDB]

Biblically speaking it’s an adjective to describe a woman or a flower or the weather of which is the only use I found in the British OED even as a noun or verb.

But that certainly isn’t the use in the US of A.


The Lord God isn’t fair in the American thinking of fair being free from favor toward either or any side, a proper balance of conflicting interests.

So many Americans see God as unfair and that isn’t what He ought to be in their own judgement. God is unfair but He is what He ought to be, so “fair” is an unrealistic expectation because God does show favor, and does side with His anointed.

so basically people these days think its not fair that God would allow the destruction or death of what they value.

Woah....
Fair is not equitable...that's the basic confusion.
Fair as in a pseudonym for pure, good, or without blemish is just fine...it goes along with that theme of Holy.

God is just...as in justice.
God is also gracious. Meaning that He grants unmerited favor.

 

[DPMartin]

Woah....
Fair is not equitable...that's the basic confusion.
Fair as in a pseudonym for pure, good, or without blemish is just fine...it goes along with that theme of Holy.

God is just...as in justice.
God is also gracious. Meaning that He grants unmerited favor.

well what Americans attribute to "fair" isn't used in British use and biblical use.
but you're correct, God is just and shows favor, so that doesn't compute in the American psyche. especially those who are convinced they are entitled. so those of us who think that Lord God should be "fair", are incorrect.

 

[JohnDB]

well what Americans attribute to "fair" isn't used in British use and biblical use.
but you're correct, God is just and shows favor, so that doesn't compute in the American psyche. especially those who are convinced they are entitled. so those of us who think that Lord God should be "fair", are incorrect.

There are those parables of the various workers that were hired.
All received the same pay even though some worked a shorter time.
Some who initially said "no" decided later to go and work...they got paid. Those who said "yes" but never showed up to work.
Those who never showed up to work never got paid or were considered "hired".

So I tend to think on these parables at times.

 

[DPMartin]

There are those parables of the various workers that were hired.
All received the same pay even though some worked a shorter time.
Some who initially said "no" decided later to go and work...they got paid. Those who said "yes" but never showed up to work.
Those who never showed up to work never got paid or were considered "hired".

So I tend to think on these parables at times.

and that means what, to this subject?

but if you mean what is entitled then what is entitled in both cases is the fulfillment of God's Word according to His will or Judgement. nothing else is entitled. and the parables shows that Judgement.

God makes agreements biblically called covenants with man, that is His relationship with man even Jesus is the everlasting covenant. and those agreements are His to make. therefore the agreement can be said to be entitled to be fulfilled because God gave His Word, as agreements are that.

there is also who does He make agreements with and does not make agreements with. that would be of His own choosing correct? that's not fair either in the eyes of the American.

how many American Christians try to tell you that the ten commandments are universal. that is completely wrong the ten commandments are a covenant, an agreement the Lord God made with the Israelis out on the desert. no one else. now those who are as Paul says grafted in are in the same agreement via Jesus Christ. so we honor the ten commandments accordingly as Jesus shows.

 

[JohnDB]

and that means what, to this subject?

but if you mean what is entitled then what is entitled in both cases is the fulfillment of God's Word according to His will or Judgement. nothing else is entitled. and the parables shows that Judgement.

God makes agreements biblically called covenants with man, that is His relationship with man even Jesus is the everlasting covenant. and those agreements are His to make. therefore the agreement can be said to be entitled to be fulfilled because God gave His Word, as agreements are that.

there is also who does He make agreements with and does not make agreements with. that would be of His own choosing correct? that's not fair either in the eyes of the American.

how many American Christians try to tell you that the ten commandments are universal. that is completely wrong the ten commandments are a covenant, an agreement the Lord God made with the Israelis out on the desert. no one else. now those who are as Paul says grafted in are in the same agreement via Jesus Christ. so we honor the ten commandments accordingly as Jesus shows.

It goes to what the world deems as fair vx what God considers just.
There are literally millions of people who claim that since they said "yes" to Jesus but have had no fruits in keeping with repentance that they deserve a spot in heaven...
Conversely...
There are a few "atheists" who know and adhere to Christian principles and causes better than many pew warmers.

Fairness (according to the world) says that everyone gets to go to heaven.
Especially those who gave lip service to the religion and even went to church services...

God has a completely different standard for acceptance. That's all I was implying.

 

[DPMartin]

It goes to what the world deems as fair vx what God considers just.
There are literally millions of people who claim that since they said "yes" to Jesus but have had no fruits in keeping with repentance that they deserve a spot in heaven...
Conversely...
There are a few "atheists" who know and adhere to Christian principles and causes better than many pew warmers.

Fairness (according to the world) says that everyone gets to go to heaven.
Especially those who gave lip service to the religion and even went to church services...

God has a completely different standard for acceptance. That's all I was implying.

you don't have to imply, you are correct-a-mondo

 

[DPMartin]

Of course, God would destroy the things we value. Our cars, our homes, our children - God would take any of these away from us, today, if He so chooses. God is aware that we would mourn if He took our children from us today; He knows it would hurt us emotionally if our children were taken, yet He would not hesitate to take them. God knows that, even if He allows our children to die today, our children are perfectly safe and no real harm has befallen our children. Death, no matter how gruesome, is nothing to God. Death has no sting despite a gruesome death. In fact, the more gruesome the death, the more wonderful the blessing. Peter, legend says, died upside down on a cross. Peter's blessing will be great in Heaven. As for our homes, it would be our blessing if God took our home from us today. It would frighten us and hurt our feelings, but it would mean that God has chosen to raise us up to the challenge of loss, almost to the degree that Job faced loss. The only pain we would feel from losing our home or our children is the pain of "this world", because of attachments to the things of this world. In reality, such loss would imply greater blessings in Heaven.

well in reality we loss everything here anyway, the whole human race walks in a stay of execution. and yes Job is the example of one who the Lord God favored yet Job suffered more loss then most that the scriptures do say the Lord God commanded to happen.