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Show me scripture to support that and I'll show you mine. There is an elect race of Israel. Paul made that abundantly clear in Romans 9.
You have Romans 9 backwards. Paul is sad because his race is not the elect. He explains that Israel (the race) doesn't equal Israel (the elect), v39. Paul then points out what I have pointed out, if God's elect were a race, God would not have chosen Isaac over Ishmael. I don't know how much more point blank Paul could get than to say, "Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham's children."Read what the Lord Jesus has to say in John 8 and 9. Jordon has already quoted, "John 8:37 - I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you." Then what does Jesus say? Jesus says those descendants of Abraham are not Abraham's children. The Promise made to Abraham was not to his children in the flesh but to his children through Jesus Christ. Christians are the elect! (The core doctrine of Christianity.)In order for an elect of grace to come aboard, God needed a race so that grace can come forward. Lord Jesus Christ didn't just come to Earth in a "mysterious" fashion way. Without a bloodline of God's chosen race, Christ would never be born...And Christians are the elect? Not all Christians are the elect to be honest with you. I think this scripture comes to mind...Matthew 22:14 - For many are called, but few are chosen.
(tim_from_pa;60659)
Show me scripture to support that and I'll show you mine. There is an elect race of Israel. Paul made that abundantly clear in Romans 9.
You have Romans 9 backwards. Paul is sad because his race is not the elect. He explains that Israel (the race) doesn't equal Israel (the elect), v39. Paul then points out what I have pointed out, if God's elect were a race, God would not have chosen Isaac over Ishmael. I don't know how much more point blank Paul could get than to say, "Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham's children."Read what the Lord Jesus has to say in John 8 and 9. Jordon has already quoted, "John 8:37 - I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you." Then what does Jesus say? Jesus says those descendants of Abraham are not Abraham's children. The Promise made to Abraham was not to his children in the flesh but to his children through Jesus Christ. Christians are the elect! (The core doctrine of Christianity.)In order for an elect of grace to come aboard, God needed a race so that grace can come forward. Lord Jesus Christ didn't just come to Earth in a "mysterious" fashion way. Without a bloodline of God's chosen race, Christ would never be born...And Christians are the elect? Not all Christians are the elect to be honest with you. I think this scripture comes to mind...Matthew 22:14 - For many are called, but few are chosen.