What is the time of Jacob’s trouble?

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The "time of Jacob's trouble" comes from Jeremiah 30:7...
Jeremiah 30:7 King James Version (KJV)
Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble, but he shall be saved out of it.

In previous verses, God promised He would someday restore His people to their land....
Jeremiah 30:1-6 King James Version (KJV)
1 The word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord, saying,
2 Thus speaketh the Lord God of Israel, saying, Write thee all the words that I have spoken unto thee in a book.
3 For, lo, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will bring again the captivity of my people Israel and Judah, saith the Lord: and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it.
4 And these are the words that the Lord spake concerning Israel and concerning Judah.
5 For thus saith the Lord; We have heard a voice of trembling, of fear, and not of peace.
6 Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness?

Despite a great time of distress the Lord would save them from it...
Jeremiah 30:8-11 King James Version (KJV)
8 For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:
9 But they shall serve the Lord their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
10 Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the Lord; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid.
11 For I am with thee, saith the Lord, to save thee: though I make a full end of all nations whither I have scattered thee, yet I will not make a full end of thee: but I will correct thee in measure, and will not leave thee altogether unpunished.

The imagery in the Jeremiah passage most closely resembles the predictions given by Jesus in Matthew 24....

Matthew 24:3-22 King James Version (KJV)
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

We see it in other verses...

Luke 21:22-27 King James Version (KJV)
22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

1 Thessalonians 5:3 King James Version (KJV)
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
Jacobs Trouble is now as the Church goes through the great tribulation, right now ! The Church is Jacob
 

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And hurricane after hurricane the size of Texas coming into the south and slamming the coast...something is not right..
"Hurricane Zeta becomes fifth named storm to hit Louisiana in 2020.. Hurricane Zeta becomes fifth named storm to hit Louisiana in 2020

"During a busy 2020 hurricane season, Louisiana has been in the 'cone of uncertainty' six times..During a busy 2020 hurricane season, Louisiana has been in the 'cone of uncertainty' six times

"After weakening to a tropical depression, Eta is staging a comeback and will gather strength in the coming days. Accuweather....Eta path: Tropical storm to hit South Florida; warnings issued
 

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The "time of Jacob's trouble" comes from Jeremiah 30:7...
Jeremiah 30:7 King James Version (KJV)
Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble, but he shall be saved out of it.

In previous verses, God promised He would someday restore His people to their land....
Jeremiah 30:1-6 King James Version (KJV)
1 The word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord, saying,
2 Thus speaketh the Lord God of Israel, saying, Write thee all the words that I have spoken unto thee in a book.
3 For, lo, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will bring again the captivity of my people Israel and Judah, saith the Lord: and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it.
4 And these are the words that the Lord spake concerning Israel and concerning Judah.
5 For thus saith the Lord; We have heard a voice of trembling, of fear, and not of peace.
6 Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness?

Despite a great time of distress the Lord would save them from it...
Jeremiah 30:8-11 King James Version (KJV)
8 For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:
9 But they shall serve the Lord their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
10 Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the Lord; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid.
11 For I am with thee, saith the Lord, to save thee: though I make a full end of all nations whither I have scattered thee, yet I will not make a full end of thee: but I will correct thee in measure, and will not leave thee altogether unpunished.

The imagery in the Jeremiah passage most closely resembles the predictions given by Jesus in Matthew 24....

Matthew 24:3-22 King James Version (KJV)
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

We see it in other verses...

Luke 21:22-27 King James Version (KJV)
22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

1 Thessalonians 5:3 King James Version (KJV)
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
The final deception will be of such magnitude that even God's people are in danger of deception. The evidence presented to our senses will be overwhelming. There will be a soul searching as never experienced before.
 

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Jacobs Trouble is now as the Church goes through the great tribulation, right now ! The Church is Jacob
And the shocking part is it gets worse...

Daniel 12:1-3 King James Version (KJV)
1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
 

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And the shocking part is it gets worse...

Daniel 12:1-3 King James Version (KJV)
1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
Not to change the subject. But in this passage who is Michael?
 

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None... of those fantastic spectacular events are the events of Jacob's trouble. They are only Signs leading up to it.

Dan 12:1-2
12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
KJV

Matt 24:21-26
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, "Lo, here is Christ, or there"; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, "Behold, He is in the desert"; go not forth: "behold, He is in the secret chambers"; believe it not.
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In Daniel 12:1, the subject previous there was about the "vile person" who will establish the old covenant worship again by making a "league" with a small people in Jerusalem. And then he will end those sacrifices and instead place the abomination that makes desolate, pointing to a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem for the end. The subject of Archangel Michael making a 'stand' is about the war in heaven between him and Satan involving this time of Jacob's trouble, which is actually about the time of "great tribulation" our Lord Jesus warned us about for the end just prior to His return.

One of the main things to note about when that "abomination of desolation" idol is setup in Jerusalem at the end of this world is the appearance of the Antichrist which Lord Jesus warns us about in those Matthew 24:23-26 verses. The KJV "false Christs" phrase is actually the sole Greek word pseudochristos, made up of two Greek words - pseudo meaning false, and christos meaning Christ, singular. Dr. James Strong in his Strong's Exhaustive Concordance translated that "false Christs" phrase as 'a spurious Messiah' (Strong's no.5580).

Thus the Jacob's trouble idea is actually pointing directly to the time of "great tribulation" Lord Jesus gave us as a Sign of the end leading up to His return.
 

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Study the 7th Seal (Revelation 8:1), in connection with Revelation 3:10, 15:8, 17:12.
 

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The 6 Seals of Revelation 6 align with the main 7 Signs Jesus gave about the end of this world in His Olivet discourse of Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21. In the Matthew 24 and Mark 13 examples, He gave the timing of His return and gathering of His Church to be AFTER... the tribulation at the end of this world. Those events of the gathering He gave directly parallel what Apostle Paul taught in 1 Thess.4 about being gathered to Jesus when He returns. The 6th Seal shows the Sign of Jesus' return to pour out God's cup of wrath upon the wicked, which is also the events of the 7th Vial and 7th Trumpet. Thus the 7th Seal is only given as a pointer to the same 7 Signs.
 

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I think we will know when the time such as never was appears, but it may be too late for some...
 

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I think we will know when the time such as never was appears, but it may be too late for some...

The majority of the whole world will not recognize that time. Only those whose names were written in the book of life from the foundation of the world will know.

Rev 13:4-8
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, 'Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?'

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.


8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

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The majority of the whole world will not recognize that time. Only those whose names were written in the book of life from the foundation of the world will know.

Rev 13:4-8
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, 'Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?'

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.


8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

KJV
Well, it seems we are reaching a level with the pandemic, the fires, the hurricanes, etc.. where it is becoming very clear to even the most humble or simple, that we are entering it.
 
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Jacobs Troubles is not about stocks and viruses.

As your opening post revealed:
Jacobs Troubles Is about the Troubles The Jews (Jacob/ISRAEL) have encountered once having returned to theirs homeland.

WWII -England gains control of the historical homeland of the Jews/.

1946, approx. 500,000 + Jews living in the homeland then controlled by England.

1948- Control of the land, given over from England to the Jews, and the State of Israel Established.

Jewish population increase in Israel-
1948- 700,000 +
1950- 1,200,000 +
1960- 1,900,000 +
1980- 3,300,000 +
2000- 5,000,000 +
2019- 6,700,000 +

Jews from foreign nations and Jews having children in Israel has been ongoing for the last 70 years, making The State of Israel the largest "Jewish populated" area in the world.

The Jews IN Israel have been consistently AND repeatedly "threatened and attacked"...
Which IS the Time of "Jacobs Troubles".

God proclaimed;
Their exile, (accomplished)
Their return, (being accomplished)
Their troubles, (being accomplished)
Their enemies punishment, (future)
Their saving. (future)

Glory to God,
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I think thats looking at as Gods people as being only Jews, and not understanding how the Gentiles have been grafted in, and we all are the spiritual Jews. So its the whole world that is being affected during this time, and it just keeps building up as the signs appear... https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/20...wave-bob-ward-intv-070802aseg2-cnni-world.cnn
 
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Jacobs Trouble is now as the Church goes through the great tribulation, right now ! The Church is Jacob
I think thats looking at as Gods people as being only Jews, and not understanding how the Gentiles have been grafted in, and we all are the spiritual Jews. So its the whole world that is being affected during this time, and it just keeps building up as the signs appear... https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/20...wave-bob-ward-intv-070802aseg2-cnni-world.cnn
The Church is individuals by whom the Spirit of God is IN them.
The Tribulations exacted BY Mens acts Against the Church is ongoing.
The GREAT Tribulation(S) is acts of God Against men who are Against the Church.

Gods People are COMMITTED believers IN God and IN God and Christ Jesus.

Gentiles call Believer, COMMITTED to God and Christ Jesus…”converted IN Christ”…or otherwise “Born Again Christians”.

Jews have FREEWILL as well.
Some have rejected God.
Some accept God.
Some Accept God AND Jesus as their Christ Messiah, but DO NOT Call themselves “Christians”….rather calling themselves.
“Messianic Jews”.