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Christ refers to himself as the bridegroom...
He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom (referring to John the Baptist), which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled. - John 3:29
And Christ will merry seven wives...
1. Ephesus – Apostolic – Leaving the first love… “All they which are in Asia be turned away from me…” – II Tm 1:15
2. Smyrna – Martyrs – Persecutions ten days… Foxes Book of Martyrs describes ten Roman persecutions.
3. Pergamos – Orthodox – A pyrgos is a fortified structure – Needed for the dark ages.
4. Thyatira – Catholic – The Spirit of Jezebel is to persecute, control, and to dominate. This spirit can invade any church!
5. Sardis – Protestant – A sardius is a gem, elegant yet hard and rigid. Doctrine in the head, little in the heart.
6. Philadelphia – Methodist – To obtain sanctification was to do so with love.
7. Laodicea – Charismatic – Rich and increased with goods and have need of nothing?
So I liken the Catholic church to a 'she.' And Jezebel also as a 'she.' The Catholic church in her time was very much a 'she.' You would not have wanted to have spoken out against 'her' in her glory days! There were great institutions set up in those days to get the heretics against 'her' to recant!
As far as the Catholic church, I believe that it is a Christian church and its members are saved. I also believe that for the most part, the old spirit of Jezebel has thankfully left the scene. I refer to Jezebel as a spirit that set in with the dark ages and it seemed to be in every state run sect of Christianity in its time.
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But... It was not always this way!
In 492 or 493 Clovis, who was master of Gaul from the Loire to the frontiers of the Rhenish Kingdom of Cologne, married Clotilda, the niece of Gondebad, King of the Burgundians. The popular epic of the Franks has transformed the story of this marriage into a veritable nuptial poem the analysis of which will be found in the article on Clotilda. Clotilda, who was a Catholic, and very pious, won the consent of Clovis to the baptism of their son, and then urged that he himself embrace the Catholic Faith. He deliberated for a long time. Finally, during a battle against the Alemanni--which without apparent reason has been called the battle of Tolbiac (Zulpich)--seeing his troops on the point of yielding, he invoked the aid of Clotilda's God, promised to become a Christian if only victory should be granted him. He conquered and, true to his word was baptized at Reims by St. Remigius, bishop of that city, his sister Albofledis and three thousand of his warriors at the same time embracing Christianity. Gregory of Tours, in his ecclesiastical history of the Franks has described this event, which took place amid great pomp at Christmas, 496. "Bow thy head, O Sicambrian", said St. Remigius to the royal convert "Adore what thou hast burned and burn what thou hast adored." According to a ninth-century legend found in the life of St. Remigius, written by the celebrated Hincmar himself Archbishop of Reims, the chrism for the baptismal ceremony was missing and was brought from heaven in a vase (ampulla) borne by a dove. This is what is known as the Sainte Ampoule of Reims, preserved in the treasury of the cathedral of that city and used for the coronation of the kings of France from Philip Augustus down to Charles X.
The conversion of Clovis to the religion of the majority of his subjects soon brought about the union of the Gallo-Romans with their barbarian conquerors. While in all the other Germanic kingdoms founded on the ruins of the Roman Empire the difference of religion between the Catholic natives and Arian conquerers was a very active cause of destruction, in the Frankish kingdom, on the contrary, the fundamental identity of religious beliefs and equality of political rights made national and patriotic sentiments universal and produced the most perfect harmony between the two races. The Frankish Kingdom was thenceforth the representative and defender of Catholic interests throughout the West, while to his conversion Clovis owed an exceptionally brilliant position. Those historians who do not understand the problems of religious psychology have concluded that Clovis embraced Christianity solely from political motives, but nothing is more erroneous. On the contrary, everything goes to prove that his conversion was sincere, and the opposite cannot be maintained without refusing credence to the most trustworthy evidence.
I had to pull this photo out of one of my Chivalry books to find a photo to do this event justice.The Baptism of Clovis with wife Saint Clotilde and son looking on...
"Bow thy head, O Sicambrian", said St. Remigius to the royal convert "Adore what thou hast burned and burn what thou hast adored."
The thing to note here was that St. Remigius had all the air of a Godly man. I would say this as the Catholic church was unadulterated with power. With power comes corruption.
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Whenever a church refers to herself as 'the church' it is not referring to Christ but a 'she.' Even in Pentecostal Holiness circles I hear people saying lines like, "To protect the church." If we give 'the church,' or 'she,' or 'her,' too much power in that she looks after herself, we are inviting our institution to become another Jezebel. This spirit not only invaded the Catholic church, but the Anglican, Lutheran, Calvinist, and whatever church became drunk with power as the 'state church.'
The founding Fathers of the United States wrote in our constitution that it was wise to have a separation of church and state. Which keeps a lot of the power out of the hands of the clergy, who will become drunk with the stuff if allowed and take the same paths that the Catholic church did a millenia ago.
Christ refers to himself as the bridegroom...
He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom (referring to John the Baptist), which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled. - John 3:29
And Christ will merry seven wives...
1. Ephesus – Apostolic – Leaving the first love… “All they which are in Asia be turned away from me…” – II Tm 1:15
2. Smyrna – Martyrs – Persecutions ten days… Foxes Book of Martyrs describes ten Roman persecutions.
3. Pergamos – Orthodox – A pyrgos is a fortified structure – Needed for the dark ages.
4. Thyatira – Catholic – The Spirit of Jezebel is to persecute, control, and to dominate. This spirit can invade any church!
5. Sardis – Protestant – A sardius is a gem, elegant yet hard and rigid. Doctrine in the head, little in the heart.
6. Philadelphia – Methodist – To obtain sanctification was to do so with love.
7. Laodicea – Charismatic – Rich and increased with goods and have need of nothing?
So I liken the Catholic church to a 'she.' And Jezebel also as a 'she.' The Catholic church in her time was very much a 'she.' You would not have wanted to have spoken out against 'her' in her glory days! There were great institutions set up in those days to get the heretics against 'her' to recant!
As far as the Catholic church, I believe that it is a Christian church and its members are saved. I also believe that for the most part, the old spirit of Jezebel has thankfully left the scene. I refer to Jezebel as a spirit that set in with the dark ages and it seemed to be in every state run sect of Christianity in its time.
-----------------------------------------------------
But... It was not always this way!
In 492 or 493 Clovis, who was master of Gaul from the Loire to the frontiers of the Rhenish Kingdom of Cologne, married Clotilda, the niece of Gondebad, King of the Burgundians. The popular epic of the Franks has transformed the story of this marriage into a veritable nuptial poem the analysis of which will be found in the article on Clotilda. Clotilda, who was a Catholic, and very pious, won the consent of Clovis to the baptism of their son, and then urged that he himself embrace the Catholic Faith. He deliberated for a long time. Finally, during a battle against the Alemanni--which without apparent reason has been called the battle of Tolbiac (Zulpich)--seeing his troops on the point of yielding, he invoked the aid of Clotilda's God, promised to become a Christian if only victory should be granted him. He conquered and, true to his word was baptized at Reims by St. Remigius, bishop of that city, his sister Albofledis and three thousand of his warriors at the same time embracing Christianity. Gregory of Tours, in his ecclesiastical history of the Franks has described this event, which took place amid great pomp at Christmas, 496. "Bow thy head, O Sicambrian", said St. Remigius to the royal convert "Adore what thou hast burned and burn what thou hast adored." According to a ninth-century legend found in the life of St. Remigius, written by the celebrated Hincmar himself Archbishop of Reims, the chrism for the baptismal ceremony was missing and was brought from heaven in a vase (ampulla) borne by a dove. This is what is known as the Sainte Ampoule of Reims, preserved in the treasury of the cathedral of that city and used for the coronation of the kings of France from Philip Augustus down to Charles X.
The conversion of Clovis to the religion of the majority of his subjects soon brought about the union of the Gallo-Romans with their barbarian conquerors. While in all the other Germanic kingdoms founded on the ruins of the Roman Empire the difference of religion between the Catholic natives and Arian conquerers was a very active cause of destruction, in the Frankish kingdom, on the contrary, the fundamental identity of religious beliefs and equality of political rights made national and patriotic sentiments universal and produced the most perfect harmony between the two races. The Frankish Kingdom was thenceforth the representative and defender of Catholic interests throughout the West, while to his conversion Clovis owed an exceptionally brilliant position. Those historians who do not understand the problems of religious psychology have concluded that Clovis embraced Christianity solely from political motives, but nothing is more erroneous. On the contrary, everything goes to prove that his conversion was sincere, and the opposite cannot be maintained without refusing credence to the most trustworthy evidence.
I had to pull this photo out of one of my Chivalry books to find a photo to do this event justice.The Baptism of Clovis with wife Saint Clotilde and son looking on...
"Bow thy head, O Sicambrian", said St. Remigius to the royal convert "Adore what thou hast burned and burn what thou hast adored."
The thing to note here was that St. Remigius had all the air of a Godly man. I would say this as the Catholic church was unadulterated with power. With power comes corruption.
-----------------------------------------------------
Whenever a church refers to herself as 'the church' it is not referring to Christ but a 'she.' Even in Pentecostal Holiness circles I hear people saying lines like, "To protect the church." If we give 'the church,' or 'she,' or 'her,' too much power in that she looks after herself, we are inviting our institution to become another Jezebel. This spirit not only invaded the Catholic church, but the Anglican, Lutheran, Calvinist, and whatever church became drunk with power as the 'state church.'
The founding Fathers of the United States wrote in our constitution that it was wise to have a separation of church and state. Which keeps a lot of the power out of the hands of the clergy, who will become drunk with the stuff if allowed and take the same paths that the Catholic church did a millenia ago.
