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Netchaplain

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Wisdom calls for differentiating between morality (the physical) and godliness (the spiritual); the former pertains to the horizontal relationship between mankind; and the latter, the vertical relationship between God and mankind! Of those regenerate there are two classes; those who are babes-in-Christ and those who are spiritual in Christ (1Co 3:1). Unregenerate man can live moral lives, as will all regenerate, but the difference is that the unregenerate cannot live a godly life, which derives from salvation. Godliness is often outwardly counterfeited and will last only temporarily (Num 32:23; 1Jo 2:19), but true godliness unceasingly endures (Mar 13:13)!
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Which World, Christian?

Both the world and worldly Christians are offering attractive opportunities for the exercise of Christian graces, and seek to enlist in their benevolent projects those on whom they look as men and women of success. And there are temptations for such as are full of goodness, compassion and energy—movements designed to advance morality, to help and elevate the unfortunate, to reform those who have fallen into evil ways, to correct social and civic evils, are especially alluring. They seem to offer opportunity for the exercise of spiritual gifts and knowledge.

To many Christians, such challenges are very attractive. It is said, “Here is a chance to do good; and, on this ground, joining such movements is justified.” Is it not right to help men to be better? Is it not serving Christ to help movements as are designed for the betterment of society? Ought we not to do all in our power to aid even “Christian” plans and schemes that aim at the moral uplift of the unfortunate, the degraded and the fallen?

From the standpoint of the world, such efforts are undoubtedly justifiable; from the standpoint of Christianity it is quite a different matter. That they benefit the world will not be denied; that they promote the interests of the Lord Jesus Christ is much more than doubtful. The world, not the Lord Jesus, is their object. The world seeks its own things, not the things of Christ (Philippians 2:21). It is the love that is of the world, not the love that is of the Father (1Jo 2:15). It is the glory of the world that is sought, not the glory of the Lord Jesus Christ (Mat 4:8).

But Christian love is the love that is of the Father (along with a natural love, only Christians have a spiritual love, and is the love by which we are to live and share—NC). The activity of the love that is of Him should mark the believer, not the activity of the love that is of the world. Hence, the apostle John exhorts the young men not to love the world, nor the things of the world (1Jo 2:15-17). He puts the two things—the love of the world and the love of the Father—in direct contrast as diametric opposites.

No, the energy of the Christian is not to be spent in furthering the interests of the world. He is to be in the world for the Lord Jesus Christ—who is not of this world. For Him, and not for the world or self! If the believer loves not the world or the things of the world, he will find the Lord Jesus to be in every way his satisfying portion. How great, alas, is our loss in diverting our energies, time and means into channels in which the profit is merely present things—not eternal things! The Spirit of God would have us spend our strength in seeking the things of Christ. “Seek those things which are above . . . not on things on the earth (Col 3:1, 2). “The world is passing away and the lust thereof” (1Jo 2:17).

For the believer to be ensnared in the love of the world, whatever may be gained thereby, in the end it will be a sad experience. The stamp of death is on the present scene, and the world of fallen man is under the judgement of God. It must pass away. It will not abide. But the one who practices the will of the Father will abide forever. In so far as such a one turns aside from the things that minister to the Life that is Christ, to participate in what builds up the world, he is exerting himself in what is passing away, not what abides forever. There were once those who did not seek to right the world—“these that have turned the world upside down are also come here” (Acts 17:6-9).

—C Crain (1847-1925)





MJS devotional excerpt for June 6

“It is true that there is the hunger to be devoted, and to be like the Lord Jesus, long before one’s acts and manner corroborate the hunger, and make it a fact; but the more the hungers which grace has generated in your heart are given a place, the sooner will they become experiential facts; and the more the Lord Jesus has His throne within you, the more you will ‘rejoice in Him, and have no confidence in the flesh’” (Phil. 3:3).

“‘I know so little of the Lord Jesus,’ one may say, and this may be true; but every grace that is in Him is in every saint, though not developed. If I am a babe in Christ, where there is true lowliness of heart, I display God, as a babe manifesting Him; but if, as a babe, I am attempting to manifest Him as a man, there will be frustration and failure."


- William Kelly (1821-1906)
None But The Hungry Heart
 
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I'm first in this time....

I identify with your post @Netchaplain ..and hello again. It has been months since my last ....response to you. And this post really is timely for me as I have posted here on this very subject recently, down in the trenches, so to speak.

It cannot be understated that a believer to stay and walk in Christ is to be separate from the world and to avoid its many traditions, trappings and enticements of 'goodness' and moral deeds that all should join in to do for the benefit of the earth and common man etc. They are fleeting words and actions and temporarily held together. They are ultimately deadening and neutralizing poisons to the growing spirit of one with Christ.

Bless you and your family. Keep these words of spiritual wisdom flying...

APAK
 
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Wisdom calls for differentiating between morality (the physical) and godliness (the spiritual); the former pertains to the horizontal relationship between mankind; and the latter, the vertical relationship between God and mankind! Of those regenerate there are two classes; those who are babes-in-Christ and those who are spiritual in Christ (1Co 3:1). Unregenerate man can live moral lives, as will all regenerate, but the difference is that the unregenerate cannot live a godly life, which derives from salvation. Godliness is often outwardly counterfeited and will last only temporarily (Num 32:23; 1Jo 2:19), but true godliness unceasingly endures (Mar 13:13)!
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That is so well said! Morality vs. Spirituality. The world lives by what its eyes see, by what its flesh wants, and by pride in one's self. "Be all that you can be."

It has not a clue that the voice of the inner conscience is God calling out to live in fellowship with the person, not for the person to decide for himself what he wants each day. The Lord wants the opportunity to guide and to direct, so that what we do we do *in Him.* That way, whatever we do will be seasoned with salt, and will manifest the beautiful virtues of the Lord Jesus.

But the world knows nothing of this "walk in the Spirit." It alone decides what is good, and when something is to be done or taken. There is little sense of serving a God in heaven, except that any good a person chooses to do is attributable to "divine goodness."

Surely God does use "goodness" of the world for His own purposes. But it is called "temporary," such as "wood, hay, and stubble," for inferior uses, and not for God's eternal glory.

These things imitate God's goodness, and may evem contribute some of God's own goodness to the world. But it does not accrue to the do-gooder, who is largely doing it for his own glory, and not for the glory of God.

God's glory comes through man only through the complete submission of the man to God. When we do so, we are born again to live every day in His service, producing His virtues.

1 Cor 3.11 For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, 13 their work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person’s work. 14 If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward. 15 If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved—even though only as one escaping through the flames.
 
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That is so well said! Morality vs. Spirituality. The world lives by what its eyes see, by what its flesh wants, and by pride in one's self. "Be all that you can be."

It has not a clue that the voice of the inner conscience is God calling out to live in fellowship with the person, not for the person to decide for himself what he wants each day. The Lord wants the opportunity to guide and to direct, so that what we do we do *in Him.* That way, whatever we do will be seasoned with salt, and will manifest the beautiful virtues of the Lord Jesus.

But the world knows nothing of this "walk in the Spirit." It alone decides what is good, and when something is to be done or taken. There is little sense of serving a God in heaven, except that any good a person chooses to do is attributable to "divine goodness."

Surely God does use "goodness" of the world for His own purposes. But it is called "temporary," such as "wood, hay, and stubble," for inferior uses, and not for God's eternal glory.

These things imitate God's goodness, and may evem contribute some of God's own goodness to the world. But it does not accrue to the do-gooder, who is largely doing it for his own glory, and not for the glory of God.

God's glory comes through man only through the complete submission of the man to God. When we do so, we are born again to live every day in His service, producing His virtues.

1 Cor 3.11 For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, 13 their work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person’s work. 14 If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward. 15 If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved—even though only as one escaping through the flames.
Well said, I just cannot add anything to it at the moment...
 
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Netchaplain

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I'm first in this time....

I identify with your post @Netchaplain ..and hello again. It has been months since my last ....response to you. And this post really is timely for me as I have posted here on this very subject recently, down in the trenches, so to speak.

It cannot be understated that a believer to stay and walk in Christ is to be separate from the world and to avoid its many traditions, trappings and enticements of 'goodness' and moral deeds that all should join in to do for the benefit of the earth and common man etc. They are fleeting words and actions and temporarily held together. They are ultimately deadening and neutralizing poisons to the growing spirit of one with Christ.

Bless you and your family. Keep these words of spiritual wisdom flying...

APAK
Hi, and thanks for your input!
 

Netchaplain

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God's glory comes through man only through the complete submission of the man to God. When we do so, we are born again to live every day in His service, producing His virtues.
Amen, and it's a willful submission (Phl 2:13).