Who is the temple?

[afaithfulone4u]

Is it all believers?

Or is it those who are birthed in the image of Christ being his body and he is the head, having the attributes of the Father?

Do you know that David was forbidden by God to build a house for Him due to him being a man of war?
1 Chron 28:2-3
2 Then David the king stood up upon his feet, and said, Hear me, my brethren, and my people: As for me, I had in mine heart to build an house of rest for the ark of the covenant of the LORD, and for the footstool of our God, and had made ready for the building:
3 But God said unto me, Thou shalt not build an house for my name, because thou hast been a man of war, and hast shed blood.
KJV

How much more holier must the TRUE temple of God being in Christ be if David due to his fleshly nature was not worthy to build a natural building for God because he was a man of war?

Please know that all who say that all believers go to heaven and are apart of the temple and all be at the wedding supper of the Lamb are not speaking the truth. All who say that you can live as you please and you will inherit the kingdom of heaven is a seducing spirit that guides men in error and keeps them from growing in Christ as they think they can stay "Just as I am" and that is soothing to the ears of a carnal man.
You can not receive salvation on your own without Christ's sacrifice, however we don't just stand still once we believe, we must now follow and allow the Word to wash away those sinful ways you have learned when you dwelt in Egypt.

 

[meshak]

another good post, sister:)

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Is it all believers?

Define believer.

 

[afaithfulone4u]

Define believer.

Anyone who says they believe in Jesus as the Son of God raised on the third day and thinks that is it!
Rom 12:3
2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
KJV

That is just the beginning of our walk there is MUCH work to be done within us. We can not change ourselves, but that is why we have a better covenant in Christ for we have the HELPER being the Holy Spirit to help us to overcome so that our sins can be taken away and we do them no more. We must be transformed by the renewing of our minds from the things we learned in Egypt to become a people for God.
Rom 3:25
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are PAST, through the forbearance of God;
KJV
Jesus made it possible to give us all a clean slate of sins Past, so that no man could boast of why they are being accepted by God, but we must keep seeking and keep asking for God to give us the desires of our heart! ..... not meaning more cars, bigger houses.. but for HIM to give us the desires that He want us to have that we in our selves can't do alone without Christ and the indwelling Spirit.
1 Cor 3:14-15
14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
KJV
They may be saved to live again, but they will not inherit the kingdom of God, but will be the saved nations outside the Bride and will serve and bring their wealth into New Jerusalem for Her children who are the children of God which will be royalty. Here they are in 15 and their life will be as the sowed in this life remember what ever you allowed on earth shall be allowed in YOUR heaven and what ever you forbid.......:
Rev 22:14-15
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
KJV

Ah, you probably thought those are they who are thrown into the lake of fire... but did you notice it did not say UNBELIEF? Now take a look at 8 below

Rev 21:7-10
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
KJV

 

[meshak]

good post faithfulone:)

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

They may be saved to live again, but they will not inherit the kingdom of God, but will be the saved nations outside the Bride and will serve and bring their wealth into New Jerusalem for Her children who are the children of God which will be royalty. Here they are in 15 and their life will be as the sowed in this life remember what ever you allowed on earth shall be allowed in YOUR heaven and what ever you forbid.......:

Ah, you probably thought those are they who are thrown into the lake of fire... but did you notice it did not say UNBELIEF? Now take a look at 8 below

More BS.

Can you please tell me what organization you are affiliated with, or what man you follow, or what books you read that taught you this?

 

[meshak]

More BS.

Can you please tell me what organization you are affiliated with, or what man you follow, or what books you read that taught you this?

Why are you so harsh with faithfulone?

what is your problem?

If you have question regarding her comments, just say it instead of criticism. It is not of Jesus, friend.

 

[afaithfulone4u]

Many do not believe that Jesus is the temple and that all who will be worthy shall be his holy body because they will be chosen and made into the exact image of Christ. The offer has been sent out to all to enter the race, but not all will finish strong. Just as there is only one egg in the womb, only the sperma/seed that is the most determined will be able to penetrate the soil of our heart landing on good soil and the Word will take Root and grow to being spiritually mature full term being made into the image of Christ.

What so ever a man eats is what he becomes. The Word of God is the foundation of the temple of God that is why the Christ is called the chief corner stone of the temple for all of the stones must be built upon the Word just as the apostles and the prophets were. Even Paul knew that after all he had done that he could be castaway from the prize for not overcoming his fleshly lusts.
Eph 2:18-22
18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
KJV

1 Cor 9:24-10:1
24 Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.
25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.
26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:
27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
KJV

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Can you please tell me what organization you are affiliated with, or what man you follow, or what books you read that taught you this?

So no disclosure on where you got the teaching that only 7000 Israelites inherit the kingdom? Book? Teacher?

 

[Angelina]

Jesus is not the temple ^_^ You have said in almost all your other posts that "Jesus is the Temple"... I am glad that you have finally changed your view on that sister!

Acts 7
44 “Our fathers had the tabernacle of witness in the wilderness, as He appointed, instructing Moses to make it according to the pattern that he had seen, 45 which our fathers, having received it in turn, also brought with Joshua into the land possessed by the Gentiles, whom God drove out before the face of our fathers until the days of David, 46 who found favor before God and asked to find a dwelling for the God of Jacob. 47 But Solomon built Him a house.

48 “However, the Most High does not dwell in temples made with hands, as the prophet says:

49 ‘Heaven is My throne,
And earth is My footstool.
What house will you build for Me? says the Lord,
Or what is the place of My rest?
50 Has My hand not made all these things?’

51 “You stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit; as your fathers did, so do you. 52 Which of the prophets did your fathers not persecute? And they killed those who foretold the coming of the Just One, of whom you now have become the betrayers and murderers, 53 who have received the law by the direction of angels and have not kept it.”

BB

 

[afaithfulone4u]

More BS.

Can you please tell me what organization you are affiliated with, or what man you follow, or what books you read that taught you this?

This is my church:
Heb 12:23-24
23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

This is who I follow:

24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
KJV


This is my teacher:

1 Cor 2:13-16
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.


14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
KJV

1 John 2:27
27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
KJV


What Book do I read:
Now this is a perfect and understandable question coming from you, seeings how you call the Word that saves us "SPAM"?? as in UNWANTED CLUTTER sent for you to read that you just throw away to your deception?

The Bible which contains the Word of God is what I READ.

Jesus is not the temple ^_^ You have said in almost all your other posts that "Jesus is the Temple"... I am glad that you have finally changed your view on that sister!

Acts 7
44 “Our fathers had the tabernacle of witness in the wilderness, as He appointed, instructing Moses to make it according to the pattern that he had seen, 45 which our fathers, having received it in turn, also brought with Joshua into the land possessed by the Gentiles, whom God drove out before the face of our fathers until the days of David, 46 who found favor before God and asked to find a dwelling for the God of Jacob. 47 But Solomon built Him a house.

48 “However, the Most High does not dwell in temples made with hands, as the prophet says:

49 ‘Heaven is My throne,
And earth is My footstool.
What house will you build for Me? says the Lord,
Or what is the place of My rest?
50 Has My hand not made all these things?’

51 “You stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit; as your fathers did, so do you. 52 Which of the prophets did your fathers not persecute? And they killed those who foretold the coming of the Just One, of whom you now have become the betrayers and murderers, 53 who have received the law by the direction of angels and have not kept it.”

BB

No, I have not changed my mind. Jesus is the SPIRITUAL temple and head of his body which is also the temple and God the Father is head over His Word/Christ. He is the cornerstone and the 144,000 will be in his exact image as the man child as they are being built UPON the Word who again is the first stone that all the information of the building contains. For the temple of God must contain His Word. Jesus is also the ark of the covenant for the ark contained the Word of God, the Manna/Bread of life, and the Rod of Aaron that buds the knew kings and priests of God. Just as Noah's ark lifted those WITHIN up so that they will not be destroyed as all those who refused to believe, so shall those in Christ who is our ark of our covenant lift us up out of the sea of unbelievers to save us alive as well.
Rev 21:22
22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
KJV
Matt 12:6
6 But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple.
KJV
Matt 12:42
42 The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here.
KJV

Again we can see that Jesus calls himself greater than the temple built with man's hands and that even though God gave Solomon wisdom that no man is greater than God's Word, whom is JESUS the eternal Word of life.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

What Book do I read:
Now this is a perfect and understandable question coming from you, seeings how you call the Word that saves us "SPAM"?? as in UNWANTED CLUTTER sent for you to read that you just throw away to your deception?

The Bible which contains the Word of God is what I READ.

That doctrine of the 7000 didn't come from the bible. The spam was in reference, not to the word of GOD, but your unending posts that are a headache to read because of the way they're formatted.

 

[afaithfulone4u]

That doctrine of the 7000 didn't come from the bible. The spam was in reference, not to the word of GOD, but your unending posts that are a headache to read because of the way they're formatted.

I do not need to say anything more for YOU know in your heart what you meant by spam so plead your case to God and repent, for I see and understand what the word Spam means and what you said, as DO YOU.
Shed that flesh that keeps you bondage to sin.
As to you calling me a liar saying that the 7,000 remnant did not come from the Bible as if I made it up, which is only because you don't READ your Bible, I give you this:
1 Kings 19:18
18 Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him.
KJV
Rom 11:1-8
11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,
3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
8(According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.
KJV
Rev 11:12-15
12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
15 And the seventh angel sounded;
KJV

The Son's of God will be birthed after the seventh angel sounds in Rev 12 to fulfill the mystery of God. The Jews who at that time will then believe upon Jesus but will not be part of the holy body of Christ, they will have to go through the GT with those virgins who were not ready saying Lord Lord, and be martyred or may make it through, but only the 7,000 Devout Jews who have to be the same 7,000 souls of 1 Kings and Romans 11 and are alive to this day just as the 144,000 are.

Jesus said you MUST be born again, the 7,000 OT Saints came out of their graves in an earthquake once Jesus paid the sin debt after his resurrection the dry bones of Ez.37 and are the only Jews who, because they died before Jesus' sacrifice, were saved by grace

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

The Son's of God will be birthed after the seventh angel sounds in Rev 12 to fulfill the mystery of God. The Jews who at that time will then believe upon Jesus but will not be part of the holy body of Christ, they will have to go through the GT with those virgins who were not ready saying Lord Lord, and be martyred or may make it through, but only the 7,000 Devout Jews who have to be the same 7,000 souls of 1 Kings and Romans 11 and are alive to this day just as the 144,000 are.

Jesus said you MUST be born again, the 7,000 OT Saints came out of their graves in an earthquake once Jesus paid the sin debt after his resurrection the dry bones of Ez.37 and are the only Jews who, because they died before Jesus' sacrifice, were saved by grace

More garbage. You have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[Angelina]

Your mantra "Jesus is the Temple" does not work within our time frame. We are living in days before the tribulation and before the new Heavens and the new earth. He becomes the temple when all his saved people dwell into his presence, in his Kingdom and not before...Revelation 21:22, 23, 24

Shalom!

 

[williemac]

Your mantra "Jesus is the Temple" does not work within our time frame. We are living in days before the tribulation and before the new Heavens and the new earth. He becomes the temple when all his saved people dwell into his presence, in his Kingdom and not before...Revelation 21:22, 23, 24

Shalom!

Amen!!
It is not enough to just read the bible. The deeper truths, though contained within it, are not a matter of intellectual skill in the understanding. For example, in post#11, 1Cor.2:13-16 was quoted, in reference to the revelations from the Holy Spirit. I find it rather curious that it started at vs.13. Here is vs. 12..(NKJ).." Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God"

The word "freely" somehow escapes many who are walking in works based salvation. In Rom.ch.5, we can find the term "free gift" in vs. 15, 16,18. And the word "gift" is also found in vs.16, and 17. These are used in relation to life and righteousness.
But it doesn't stop there. Rom.8:32 says this..." He who did not spare His own Son, but delievered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also FREELY give us all things?" (again, NKJ)

The hoops that people are told they need to jump in order to get God to give them something?...the Holy Spirit has revealed that all things that come to us from God are freely given, gifts of grace. This is hard to take for those who are workng hard to secure the promises of God.
But back to the mention of the Holy Spirit, it bears mentioning in light of this subject line, that the same person that posted #11, also posted #4, and repeated the pattern of quoting things out of context. I am referring to the mention of the judgment seat of Christ in 1Cor.3:14,15. Here is the comedy of errors. If Faithfulone couild have quoted just one more verse, this could have all been cleared up. Here it is..." vs16.." Do you not know that YOU ARE THE TEMPLE OF GOD and the SPIRIT OF GOD DWELLS IN YOU?"

I mean seriously...how does one fail to read the entire context?

Jesus said to the lukewarm church that they were missing something that made them not hot, though they were not cold. He told them how to remedy this in Rev.3:20... " Behold I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him (fellowship), and he with Me."

Those who are the temple of God are they within whom God dwells.

Jesus will say to some, " I never knew you". He will not say.." I used to know you". Therefore these will be judged according to the law, and will be found guilty of all. The key to life is to be found in Him by faith, having escaped that judgment. This is confirmed in John5:24..." Most assuredly I say to you, he who hears My word and believes inHim who sent Me HAS EVERLASTING LIFE and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life".
He who has the Son has life.

Faith has a purpose. It completes the reconciliation between a man and God. (2Cor.5:19-20) The next verse (21) says that we are the righteousness of God IN HIM.

Finally, in Rev.7:9, we see John's revelation.." After these things I looked, and behold a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with whote robes with palm branches in their hands...."

I have observed that those who preach works based salvation have something in common. They think that there are only a few that make it. They would be correct if salvation was according to man's works rather than a free gift. But the proof is in the pudding, so to speak. John's revelation confirms the original promise made to Abraham. Putting any kind of number to the elect, saved, temple, or whatever term one wants to use, is folly. The body of Christ..His temple, cannot be numbered by mere man.