The fact the Bible says that Israel would be lost does not mean that Israel became British, Americans or anything else that we can identify today. You have given no evidence to support your claim that Israel became the British or American People. Based on what you have said I could just as easily conclude that Israel is still lost.
I have my own personal evidence. I went on a NON-CHRISTIAN forum and said that I was playing a "party game" where we had to describe a nation based on descriptions. We had a disagreement at my party game as to the nation that the clues described and I wanted their opinion on as to what nation they thought it was. Now, the bible gives SCORES of descriptions for Ephraim, but I gave ONLY 7. That's right, only 7. I had 12 replies and they unanimously said it was England or Great Britain. Mind you, I NEVER said these were biblical descriptions. They had NO CLUE that the descriptions came from the bible. SO, why can't I come to the same conclusion? As a matter of fact, one "intellectual" fellow who reminds me of the likes of you even ADDED to the descriptions and it was a biblical clue. I did not say it, he did!So. the fact that Britain fits the characteristics of Ephraim is not even negotiable from my end since unbelievers confessed it with their own mouths. Nobody else fits if one is truly open-minded.
But Ezra and Nehemiah both imply that they did.
Not if you read II Esdras 13. Have you read that apocryphal book? I thought not. The reason that sacrifices were made for all 12 tribes is because the Law does not allow sparing sacrifices if tribes are missing. Maybe a mainline preacher today would do such a thing and corrupt God's Law which shows he is the son of the devil to begin with.
Don’t get self-righteous with me just because I don’t accept your pet interpretation of Scripture.
Well, you'd better find some sort of answer and deal with them because the Abrahamic promises of many nations are bundled together with the promise of Messiah. Throw those out the window and promises of Messiah go out the window by default. The whole bible is based on these promises. Misunderstand these and one misunderstands something like 7/8's of the bible.
The biblical descriptions perfectly fit Britain, and the United States as the birthright tribe of Joseph.How so?
You don't know? I did not sense that you did. You need to study it more.
BTW: Except for the racism of Herbert Armstrong, I am more inclined than not to accept that the descendants of Joseph became the British and American People. All I am asking for is that something other speculation be presented as evidence. Some people speculate that the Scythians and Saxons are one and the same people. I was involved in a discussion of this matter on another board a few months ago. There is some documentary, archaeological and linguistic evidence to suggest that the Scythians and Saxons have a common origin and that the Scythians trace their history through the Assyrian Empire. But in your infinite wisdom, you have not sought out the very evidence that could support your claim. If you honestly believe that what you say about the Bible is true, then you should have no fear of looking outside of the Bible for supporting evidence.
Here we go again with emotionally charged words.... racism. We don't want to believe God's truth so we say that "Chosen people" is a form of racism and nobody wants to be called racist. Cut me a break. A chosen people is not racist, but a responsibility. Only worldly people equate "chosen" with superiority because the real issue is that they resent certain people being called chosen because they secretly want to be the chosen people. Why? Because if they were, they Lord it over others more than the British and Americans did and do now. My conclusion (as shown above by unbelievers) is NOT speculation, but an honest acknowledgment of the descriptions of God's people Israel and what he said would happen to them.As for my "infinite wisdom" I do look to outside evidence, especially of the likes of E. Raymond Capt. But then when I present it, the skeptics deny it anyway. What's the point? They would not get it if a 20-pound bag of rocks hit them on the side of the head. I don't have the room here to mention God's Word in the stars (Zodiac), and in the Great Pyramid which by virtue of its measure connects Egypt, Israel and Britain.And the bottom line is people love to "disprove": that the British are not the lost tribes, but then they fail abysmally miserably to claim who the lost tribes then are. If you have nations that fit better, then who are they? I'm all ears. The Jews failed miserably to fulfill God's promises, and as such if that's the best God can do with such people, then indeed Satan won and the skeptics have a point.
