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Hello @WitnessX and again welcome to the forum. I would like to address an issue that I have seen many Christian get incorrectly about true doctrine from God:

Some of the Christians on this forum have stated they believe in a doctrine called "conviction from the Holy Spirit". And I noticed what I consider to be an error in those areas of their ideas about that doctrine.

You stated:

"If you have these negative thoughts that is God trying to convict you on what the Holy Spirit is trying to do."

I know of others in the past that I have encountered on this forum stating a similar if not identical idea like that direction regarding spirit conviction.

I know there is one section that I did find in previous discussion related to that idea. But before I post that section I would like to state that God is a warm and loving spirit that does not need to "convict" us if that is a term used for "wounding" us spiritually or in the heart area of feelings. Then I will first post the fruits of the Holy Spirit from Paul's section here so that people can identify God and the feelings he provides his children:

Galatians 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. 24 And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

And here is the section on Jesus' discussion with his disciples:

John 16:5 “But now I go away to Him who sent Me, and none of you asks Me, ‘Where are You going?’ 6 But because I have said these things to you, sorrow has filled your heart. 7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you. 8 And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 of sin, because they do not believe in Me; 10 of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more; 11 of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.

In verse 8 Jesus states that the Helper he will send after going away to heaven will convict the world of 3 different things: sin, righteousness and judgment. Please understand that he is addressing an audience that is the world and not only Christians. And Jesus further explains that related to those 3 areas there are three items that need to be carefully read to actually understand what that means:

1) of sin, because they do not believe in Me;

Jesus is clearly talking about non believers in the world in that section and probably not Christians.

2) of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more;

And that is a little more complicated of an issue I believe. Jesus went to prepare a house and mansions in heaven for God's loving family. And I consider that to be righteous in saving his people. As well as sending the "Helper". God provided a helper for his children.

3) of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.

In Jesus' time he was dealing with a Roman occupation of the Jews. And under Roman government and enforcement, Rome and some of the Jews in charge, attempted stop Jesus from gaining a following by killing his as a leader. He healed many people during a time that many were suffering afflictions, illness when their were different doctors at that time, or healers. And the people loved that Jesus provided the mercy of healing them. It showed a desire from Jesus that the people lived.
Sometimes I’m not the best with words or their application. So I will refer to this link that will explain it better than I can at the moment.

conviction is of God, condemnation from satan. They are not the same, though people regularly think they are synonymous.


 

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It begins AGAIN where it First took Place = Jerusalem on earth with the unrepentant Jewish nation

"I have come in My Father’s name, and you do not receive Me; another comes in his own name, him you will receive."

They in turn bring their rebellion to the world/"Iron mixed with clay" who in agreement say "away with this Man and His followers"

Religion and Politics = the Marriage of DEATH
This is exactly where interfaith lie of satan and its co workers intend to center its religoin . RIGHT IN JERSUALEM . RIGHT IN IT
the HARLOT has been at work and men who sit in a seat whose name and title be six hundred three score and six
have long influenced this world and now has gained power and influence over EVEN much of Christendom
and the false religoins . THE WHORE and her father satan are at work fast in these last hours .
and far too many heed that cup they think is LOVEY LOVEY let all come HOME and let us be ONE . ITS ALL A LIE .
JESUS has been trod UNDER FOOT and men believe they hold the keys
and shall usher in world peace and safety and attain the largest world utopia ever seen . ITS MOVING in faster too david .
SO fast now .
 

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This is exactly where interfaith lie of satan and its co workers intend to center its religoin . RIGHT IN JERSUALEM . RIGHT IN IT
the HARLOT has been at work and men who sit in a seat whose name and title be six hundred three score and six
have long influenced this world and now has gained power and influence over EVEN much of Christendom
and the false religoins . THE WHORE and her father satan are at work fast in these last hours .
and far too many heed that cup they think is LOVEY LOVEY let all come HOME and let us be ONE . ITS ALL A LIE .
JESUS has been trod UNDER FOOT and men believe they hold the keys
and shall usher in world peace and safety and attain the largest world utopia ever seen . ITS MOVING in faster too david .
SO fast now .
He knows time is short, he has to get everything he can try to get. You’re a great inspiration friend.