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WOULD YOU LIKE TO JOIN A NEW TESTAMENT CHURCH?

Discussion in 'The Church Forum' started by marksman, May 5, 2020.

  1. Paul Christensen

    Paul Christensen Well-Known Member

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    That could be the 64 thousand dollar question in this quiz show exchange.
     
  2. Paul Christensen

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    1. You seem to be saying that the transfiguration even cannot be true because Jesus was just an ordinary man with no divine characteristics before His resurrection.
    2. The risen, glorified Jesus is not omnipresent. He is in one place - seated at the right hand of the Father. It is the Holy Spirit whom Jesus sent, is omnipresent. If He is omnipresent, He wouldn't have said that He would return one day in person.
    3. If He wasn't the divine God/Man He couldn't have taken upon Himself the eternal wrath of God for all sinners in just the three hours He hung on the Cross before He died. Only a divine person could have done that.
     
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    I have the answer, but it will drive the RCC and her daughters crazy...God fertilized Mary's egg to make both the son of man AND the son of God.

    Jesus was not a divine human, but a real human with his divine Father inside him.
     
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    Wait, Jesus, right now, is not omnipresent?

    Paul was surrounded by a light that said it was Jesus.

    Jesus is that same light that fills all of the New Jerusalem city per Rev 21.

    Read your Bible.
     
  5. Paul Christensen

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    It doesn't mean that Jesus left heaven to reveal Himself to Paul. He could quite easily punch through the dividing wall between the spiritual world and the physical world. Heaven is not zillions of miles away. Our physical world co-exists with the spiritual world. This how Jesus could suddenly appear to the disciples after HIs resurrection without coming through the door. He didn't come through the wall either. He just appeared in the midst of them. This meant that He stepped out of the spiritual world into the physical world. This means that the spiritual world is right here, but is invisible to us. So, it is easy for Him to project a beam of light from heaven right where Paul was, without Him having to leave where he was seated beside the Father.

    What John saw concerning the New Jerusalem was the vision he received while in the Spirit on the Lord's day. Jesus didn't visit him in person.
     
  6. Truther

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    No, Jesus is now bodily omnipresent light by definition.

    Jesus can be everywhere at one time and appear in any form too.

    Stop looking at pictures of Jesus in magazines.
     
  7. Paul Christensen

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    That is just an imaginary Jesus you have made up out of your own head. Certainly not the Jesus described in the New Testament.
     
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    3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:

    4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

    5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus


    The light identified itself as Jesus.


    23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and
    the Lamb is the light thereof.


    Jesus lights up all of the new heaven.

    Stop watching little man Jesus pictures and movies.

    They distort your understanding of Jesus.
     
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