Yehovah God will not sentence you to Hell!

[th1b.taylor]

It looks like many people believe Yahovah God is not a just god and sends people to Hell. Hell is a much misunderstood concept, but that is not for this thread. If there is justice in Eternity, then there must be punishment for crimes committed and it follows that obedient people will be blessed for following the commands Yehovah and Yashua have had recorded for us to live by. But God sends no one into the Lake of Fire (Eternal Torment). Yashua will be the Judge, being Perfect and a Just Judge, He will honor your choice and will not violate His Holy Instructions He has left for us to live by or to reject, and by doing so, choose to spend Eternity separated from Heaven and God. It is your choice!

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

That seems to be a popular perspective, that we choose Hell. But technically, that is not a judgment then. When a person commits a crime, they made a conscious decision to break the law. When they get caught, they're arrested, put in jail to await their trial. Finally, they go to court, the judge hears the case and determines whether the person is guilty or not guilty. He then delivers the verdict, then the appropriate penalty according to the severity of the crime. JUSTICE IS SERVED.
And in the case of unbelieving souls vs. GOD, they all get the Lake of Fire.
I am one who would argue against the traditonal doctrine of an "Eternal Hell" as their penalty..
I believe their bodies are thrown in this Volcanic, molten lake of fire and incinerated quickly - kind of like Golam was in the Lord of the RIngs. You can't destroy something for eternity. That would be an indestructible destruction or an imperishable perishing - a contradition.
As a piece of paper burns, so does flesh and bones and even in this case, a soul.
And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Matt. 10:28

What glory would come from casting billions of souls into and eternal torture chamber? When the 1st Heavens and 1st Earth are destroyed in a fervent heat ( 2 Peter 3:10), everything else is as well, death itself, Hades and all who are in it.
After that, there is no more death, no more pain and suffering. This "no more pain and suffering" cannot be a reference to the believers state in heaven- we already know that. No, I think this is a statement of reality for eternity. There will be no more darkness in existence. If we were aware of losts souls suffering in such a place, how could we enjoy heaven. Especially if we knew someone who did not make it. God would have to erase our memory of them and the idea that such a place exists. And so what would be the point? We would not have knowledge of death, forget the meaning of sin and why the world went through thousands of years of good and evil for ... or why we. Ended a Savior. GOD would then be the only one aware of Hell. Why would He desire that?
Well, I just don 't believe He created an eternal torture chamber. I believe it will be a quick extermination and forever will be done with them to enjoy eternity. Then of course, He would not have erase anything from our memory banks. CHRIST'S scars will still be visible for all eternity, We will be Eternally thankful and remember the world we. Ane from and what He saved us from, death.

 

[Deleted member 26788]

i confess ,it pothers me when someone contradicts scripture

 

[Writer]

It looks like many people believe Yahovah God is not a just god and sends people to Hell. Hell is a much misunderstood concept, but that is not for this thread. If there is justice in Eternity, then there must be punishment for crimes committed and it follows that obedient people will be blessed for following the commands Yehovah and Yashua have had recorded for us to live by. But God sends no one into the Lake of Fire (Eternal Torment). Yashua will be the Judge, being Perfect and a Just Judge, He will honor your choice and will not violate His Holy Instructions He has left for us to live by or to reject, and by doing so, choose to spend Eternity separated from Heaven and God. It is your choice!

In Matthew 13, Jesus, through many different parables is attempting to explain the various perspectives the kingdom of heaven, as a very unique and one of a kind place, sorts out and weeds out the good character from the bad character. At the end, the parable of the net, Jesus begings with "again". In other words He wants them to understand He is saying just one thing even though referring to many examples..."Again".

Matthew 13:47-50 47 “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net that was thrown into the sea and gathered fish of every kind. 48 When it was full, men drew it ashore and sat down and sorted the good into containers but threw away the bad. 49 So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come out and separate the evil from the righteous 50 and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

The end of the age: This term is to be taken very seriously. When the anti Christ makes himself known on the world scene, there will still be time for repentance and salvation. However, when the great tribulation begins under His reign, and the pressure to eat and drink and survive demands everyone to deny Jesus and take the "branding" to the hand or head, THEN, Jesus will begin His descent, and the age of grace ends, and Jesus will avenge His beloved and then THERE WILL BE HELL TO PAY. Jesus returns with a double edged sword, and with red in His eyes, and is not planning on turning the other cheek. There will be blood as high as a horses saddle, as far as the eye can see. We're talking HUMAN blood. You can rest assured that Jesus aims to be swinging that sword. The age to come will be the millenial age of Christ Reigning on the earth with a rod of iron.

 

[pandaflower]

It looks like many people believe Yahovah God is not a just god and sends people to Hell. Hell is a much misunderstood concept, but that is not for this thread. If there is justice in Eternity, then there must be punishment for crimes committed and it follows that obedient people will be blessed for following the commands Yehovah and Yashua have had recorded for us to live by. But God sends no one into the Lake of Fire (Eternal Torment). Yashua will be the Judge, being Perfect and a Just Judge, He will honor your choice and will not violate His Holy Instructions He has left for us to live by or to reject, and by doing so, choose to spend Eternity separated from Heaven and God. It is your choice!

More umbilical espousing.

This is a very unique community .

 

[Writer]

"More umbilical espousing.

This is a very unique community .

You explain God as though He is a righteous robot, and if you don't do it His way, than it's your choice to be rejected by the Robot. That isn't what God wants us to teach. God wants us to "WITNESS", God wants us to reach people about the Gospel. The Apostle Paul never uses the word Yahova. The epistles don't refer to God that way.

God is a Righteous God indeed, but God subjected the entire creation to futility, in HOPE, that the creation itself would come out of it's futility at the revealing of the children of God. In otherwords, Gods children, His witnesses, preaching the Gospel, would bring Hope, the power of Salvation, so that the lost, living in the futility God subjected us too, would know they even had a choice, because God sent them, because God loves them, because God is patient, because God is not a robot.

 

[soberxp]

Sin created the hell, life created the heaven.
If God will give you life, why he send you into the hell.

 

[Writer]

Sin created the hell, life created the heaven.
If God will give you life, why he send you into the hell.

God created hell because it was the righteous thing to do. God told Adam, "if you eat from this fruit, YOU SHALL SURELY DIE". Death was awaiting Adam before he experienced it. In Romans we read, "the creation was subjected to futility by HIM (GOD) who subjected it".

When someone hates God so much that they can't stand the thought of being in paradise with Him for 5 minutes, let alone an eternity, why would God force such a man or woman to remain there. So God created a place just for them. A place where the presence of God does not exist, a place where light does not exist, a place where Gods goodness does not exist, and so on.

 

[soberxp]

Gift created hell because it was the righteous thing to do. God told Adam, "if you eat from this fruit, YOU SHALL SURELY DIE". Death was awaiting Adam before he experienced it. In Romans we read, "the creation was subjected to futility by HIM (GOD) who subjected it".

When someone hates God so much that they can't stand the thought of being in paradise with Him for 5 minutes, let alone an eternity, why would God force such a man or woman to remain there. So God created a place just for them. A place where the presence of God does not exist, a place where light does not exist, a place where Gods goodness does not exist, and so on.

That's not right somehow.
Has no pity.
Opening a door for them.
We have learned from their mistakes,so stop putting salt on the wound.
They are still alive and well, if you believe

And thinking about it a little bit...

Salvation is for sinners,give free Gift of faith, hope, love,

"Rather than driving sinners to despair—
for who are we to presume the seat of judgment?"

9:32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

9:33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

 

[GRACE ambassador]

choose to spend Eternity separated from Heaven and God. It is your choice!

Yes, God Has BOTH: Undiluted Wrath and Undiluted Grace!

Amen.

 

[Writer]

That's not right somehow.
Has no pity.
Opening a door for them.
We have learned from their mistakes,so stop putting salt on the wound.
They are still alive and well, if you believe

And thinking about it a little bit...

Salvation is for sinners,give free Gift of faith, hope, love,

"Rather than driving sinners to despair—
for who are we to presume the seat of judgment?"

9:32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

9:33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

Jesus said, without repentance there is no salvation. You can be a sinner, that doesn't guarantee you go to heaven. Again Jesus says, Many will call Him Lord and claim many works and miricals in His name, but Jesus will say to them, "Get away from me, I never knew you". Grow up dude, and accept the fact that God is a Judge and does not fear the consequences.

 

[Deleted member 26788]

God created hell because it was the righteous thing to do. God told Adam, "if you eat from this fruit, YOU SHALL SURELY DIE". Death was awaiting Adam before he experienced it. In Romans we read, "the creation was subjected to futility by HIM (GOD) who subjected it".

When someone hates God so much that they can't stand the thought of being in paradise with Him for 5 minutes, let alone an eternity, why would God force such a man or woman to remain there. So God created a place just for them. A place where the presence of God does not exist, a place where light does not exist, a place where Gods goodness does not exist, and so on.

ummm you are apparently referring to the place called Tartarus A prison like, abased condition into which God cast disobedient angels in Noah’s day. I've never seen it Applied to men in the Bible.

 

[Writer]

ummm you are apparently referring to the place called Tartarus A prison like, abased condition into which God cast disobedient angels in Noah’s day. I've never seen it Applied to men in the Bible

I don't understand you're ignorance. Jesus was the perfect son of GOD and His Only Begotten. Yet, it was GOD who put the sins of the whole world on HIM. When Jesus bore those sins, God SENT HIM TO HELL, where he was tested for 3 days and nights. The bible says that "DEATH could not contain Him". The bible says Jesus took the Keys of Hells gates away from Satan, and Jesus overcame death. Jesus took our place. THAT MEANS EVERY MAN WOMAN AND CHILD DESERVES TO GO TO HELL OR ELSE THERE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN AN NEED FOR TO TAKE OUR PLACE...GET IT!

 

[Deleted member 26788]

I don't understand you're ignorance. Jesus was the perfect son of GOD and His Only Begotten. Yet, it was GOD who put the sins of the whole world on HIM. When Jesus bore those sins, God SENT HIM TO HELL, where he was tested for 3 days and nights. The bible says that "DEATH could not contain Him". The bible says Jesus took the Keys of Hells gates away from Satan, and Jesus overcame death. Jesus took our place. THAT MEANS EVERY MAN WOMAN AND CHILD DESERVES TO GO TO HELL OR ELSE THERE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN AN NEED FOR TO TAKE OUR PLACE...GET IT!

oh .you did not know about Tartarus ? no God did not send Jesus to hell ,he sent him to earth . when Jesus died he was dead dead every thing about him was dead . his dead body was put in a grave where it would stay ,but to say that in that time period that he went some place is an misunderstanding of how things happen'ed . and BTW Satan is not the gate keeper of hell .Revelation 1:18 states that Jesus holds the keys of death and Hades /Hell. is there any other thing I can clear up for you ?

 

[Writer]

oh .you did not know about Tartarus ? no God did not send Jesus to hell ,he sent him to earth . when Jesus died he was dead dead every thing about him was dead . his dead body was put in a grave where it would stay ,but to say that in that time period that he went some place is an misunderstanding of how things happen'ed . and BTW Satan is not the gate keeper of hell .Revelation 1:18 states that Jesus holds the keys of death and Hades /Hell. is there any other thing I can clear up for you ?

Jesus holds the keys, BUT JESUS TOOK THE KEYS AWAY FROM SATAN. But that isn't even the issue. You are running away from the issue. The issue is that GOD Sent His only begoten son to become a sacrificial lamb, GOD DID THAT. God sent His Son to torture and suffering, GOD DID THAT, God sent His only begoten son to death, GOD DID THAT, and the bible says that GOD WAS PLEASED WITH IT and accepted the sacrifice. The bible says don't think more of yourself than you ought, because if God didn't spare His own, He will not spare those who don't fear Him. As far as Tartarus is concerned; you are spending too much time majoring in the minors.

 

[Deleted member 26788]

Jesus holds the keys, BUT JESUS TOOK THE KEYS AWAY FROM SATAN. But that isn't even the issue. You are running away from the issue. The issue is that GOD Sent His only begoten son to become a sacrificial lamb, GOD DID THAT. God sent His Son to torture and suffering, GOD DID THAT, God sent His only begoten son to death, GOD DID THAT, and the bible says that GOD WAS PLEASED WITH IT and accepted the sacrifice. The bible says don't think more of yourself than you ought, because if God didn't spare His own, He will not spare those who don't fear Him. As far as Tartarus is concerned; you are spending too much time majoring in the minors.

now you are just making things up to appease the wild story you are telling . Satan has no more authority over hell than you do.

 

[Writer]

now you are just making things up to appease the wild story you are telling . Satan has no more authority over hell than you do.

The Lake of fire is not Hell. Hades, sheoul, the grave all referrence the same place. Satan's power is in his ability to accuse you before God and keep you from entering God's kingdom. Jesus took that authority away from Satan. Someone who has the key has the authority, even if figuratively speaking. In the book of Revelation Hades, Sheoul and the grave all end up in the Lake of fire with all the fallen angels and all those who refused Gods saving grace as well as those who fell from the faith and took the mark of the beast. Read your bible.