rebuilder 454
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Bible= Jesus is begotten.What do you think happened at Jesus water baptism? In John 1:31, John the Baptist confirms that one of the primary reasons he was water baptizing in the first place was so that the Messiah be revealed by Jesus' own reception of the Holy Spirit. Jesus did not have the Holy Spirit until his water baptism in which God anointed Jesus with the Spirit and empowered him.
Acts 10
37You yourselves know what has happened throughout Judea, beginning in Galilee with the baptism that John proclaimed: 38how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how Jesus went around doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, because God was with Him.
the One Lord in Ephesians 4:4-6 is the Father and is also the One God who is over all including Jesus.
Ephesians 4
4There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
This doesn't need to be a full blown discussion about water baptism and it's off topic anyway. The matter is that water baptism is a pre-requisite for the reception of the Holy Spirit. Jesus is one example, Acts 2 is another, Acts 19, etc.
Yes I am a true believer and born again. What's your point exactly? Is this where you begin showing your true colors and condemning your debate opponents? I would urge you to please don't do that. Take a breather, relax, and keep this discussion civil. I think if we want to have these sorts of discussions here then the mods really don't want these to get out of hand. Thank you. God bless you!
You= "He is created"
Bible = Jesus is God .
You= "my mind refutes the bible."
Jesus said " deny me before men, and I will deny you before the father.
You = " go ahead Jesus make my day"
Deadly gamble
Not worth it.
You need to really really really think about your Gamble.
I'm going to go to heaven from a position of worshiping Jesus and the Father. And then when I go to heaven I'm going to keep worshiping Jesus and the Father.
There is no way, and it is completely impossible, to worship a created being and go to heaven.
You're not even thinking properly
I know you're mental, and you lack the Holy Spirit, but you're not even thinking properly ,because Jesus was worshiped and it was correct.
it was the right thing there was no rebuke whatsoever.
And it is vivid and clear in Hebrews chapter 1 that Jesus is not an angel.
Not a created being.
God the Son Jesus, was begotten.
Man begets a son.
Man creates a statue.