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I think we will all agree once we die, because we will see all truth.I've come to the conclusion that there is only one way we will all ever agree on the meanings contained in the Scriptures. Can anyone tell me what that way would be?
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What about here in this life? No possible way?I think we will all agree once we die, because we will see all truth.
I've come to the conclusion that there is only one way we will all ever agree on the meanings contained in the Scriptures. Can anyone tell me what that way would be?
Much love!
With God, anything is possible. But, barring Divine intervention, I don't see it happening. I think it's harder when you have a society that stresses individualism to the degree that ours does. Everyone thinks they have to personally reinvent the wheel and get credit.What about here in this life? No possible way?
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In the new heaven and on the new Earth under the authority of Christ himself.I think we will all agree once we die, because we will see all truth.
You open a thread telling us You've arrived at a conclusion. And then ask us to guess as to what that is?I've come to the conclusion that there is only one way we will all ever agree on the meanings contained in the Scriptures. Can anyone tell me what that way would be?
Much love!
How do you see this playing out? Many people quote these verses, but what do they mean? How do you interpret it? Will there come a time when every single believer will say: Yes, Matthew 28:19 means this; or, 1 Corinthians 14:5 means that? Are you saying doctrine itself is the bad guy and all we need is love and the full knowledge of the Son of God? What do these verses mean in your view?Ephesians 4:13-15 KJV
13) Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
14) That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
15) But speaking the truth in may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
That way would be one question "Do you believe in Jesus Christ as your saviour?" Answer Yes or NoI've come to the conclusion that there is only one way we will all ever agree on the meanings contained in the Scriptures. Can anyone tell me what that way would be?
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By interpretting according to the same hermeneutic, and that hermeneutic being that which is most directly verifiable from the text.You open a thread telling us You've arrived at a conclusion. And then ask us to guess as to what that is?
You so silly.
I'm continuing to consider what I will answer you.How do you see this playing out? Many people quote these verses, but what do they mean? How do you interpret it? Will there come a time when every single believer will say: Yes, Matthew 28:19 means this; or, 1 Corinthians 14:5 means that? Are you saying doctrine itself is the bad guy and all we need is love and the full knowledge of the Son of God? What do these verses mean in your view?
Dear Spyder,I see people quoting proof texts that they use for their conclusions. What I don't see are those verses that call their proof texts into doubt. Until we use all of scripture to delves into truth, we will not agree.
When don't we use all of scripture? Well, it takes time and effort. Worse yet, the truth may gore our sacred ox and leave us more humble that we'd like.
I've asked God to give me truth while delving into scripture and had Him convict me of falsely claiming that I already knew "the truth." Even asking Him to "take it back" didn't work.
Learning that way will cause a disruption in our hearts and a change in relationships with those who used to accept you based on the fact that you were "all of one mind" previously but now aren't.
We don't like being the oddball among our social group. In that, I think we fear learning God's truth. After all, when we have the social support of 99 others, we fear being the one lamb that follows a different trail.
These are my thoughts on the matter:By interpretting according to the same hermeneutic, and that hermeneutic being that which is most directly verifiable from the text.
Interpretations are very subjective for the most part, and the more one reaches for "spiritual" interpretations, or interpretations which are not directly from the words given, the more our interpretations will vary from each other. The more we seek interpretations that are specifically grounded in the text, the more our interpretations will agree.
Example, the 144,000 sealed from the 12 tribes of Israel. Everyone who accepts this "as is", will agree. Those who believe these 144,000 represent someone or something else, the more likely their interpretations will not be the same, as each will come to their own idea of what it represents, considering there is no Scripture which gives us such information.
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Dear Marks,I've come to the conclusion that there is only one way we will all ever agree on the meanings contained in the Scriptures. Can anyone tell me what that way would be?
Much love!
Quote of the year for meExperience has led me to realize that interpretations are very subjective for most people I have known. Each scripture passage seems to be taken from the position of what a person already has accepted as truth. Churches teach doctrines and then those who learn those doctrines then justify their scripture interpretations based on those already accepted doctrines.
Anyone with a different interpretations should be aware that there will come a time when "objective comparison" of scripture passages will end and voices will get louder.
Those who have ingrained church doctrines will come to believe that their views have been given by God when in reality they have been established by their denomination.