Once saved always saved?

[robert derrick]

Can we lose our salvation?
1. How can we lose something we did not win in the first place?

2. It is not our salvation to win or lose, but God's to do for us by grace through faith.

So what then of not abiding in the Vine (John 15). Of falling away (Heb 6). Of being a castaway (1 Cor 9)

 

[kcnalp]

OSASers imply that they can never lose their salvation but NON OSASers were probably never saved. lol

 

[mailmandan]

Salvation is not probation.
Eternal life is not temporary life.
Jesus is the door. He is not a revolving door.

 

[kcnalp]

Salvation is not probation.
Eternal life is not temporary life.
Jesus is the door. He is not a revolving door.

Well thank you for saying I can never be unsaved. Wish I could say the same for OSASers!

 

[mailmandan]

Well thank you for saying I can never be unsaved. Wish I could say the same for OSASers!

You seem to be absolutely obsessed with this topic and appear to be thrilled over the thought of OSASers losing their salvation.

 

[kcnalp]

You seem to be absolutely obsessed with this topic and appear to be thrilled over the thought of OSASers losing their salvation.

"Seem" is a key word here. I could say the same about you being obsessed. OSAS serves no purpose other than to deceive new Christians. And I have no doubt that OSASers will pay a dear price on Judgment Day for the blood of weak Christians they have deceived.

 

[mailmandan]

"Seem" is a key word here. I could say the same about you being obsessed. OSAS serves no purpose other than to deceive new Christians. And I have no doubt that OSASers will pay a dear price on Judgment Day for the blood of weak Christians they have deceived.

I spend way less time on OSAS vs. NOSAS threads on this forum than you do. OSAS or "perseverance/preservation of the saints" has brought me much joy and assurance, while NOSAS only brought me fear and bondage to IN-security and kept me captive to works salvation prior to my conversion while still attending the Roman Catholic church several years ago.

 

[kcnalp]

I spend way less time on OSAS vs. NOSAS threads on this forum than you do.

How do you know that? lol

OSAS or "perseverance/preservation of the saints" has brought me much joy and assurance, while NOSAS only brought me fear and bondage to IN-security and kept me captive to works salvation prior to my conversion while still attending the Roman Catholic church several years ago.

You're blaming all that on NON OSAS? Seriously? Do you also think unbelievers will go to Heaven as does OSASer Blood Bought 1953?

 

[mailmandan]

How do you know that? lol

You're blaming all that on NON OSAS? Seriously? Do you also think unbelievers will go to Heaven as does OSASer Blood Bought 1953?

It's obvious. I've read through multiple OSAS threads and they are saturated with posts from you. I've noticed that ALL false religions and cults that promote works salvation strongly oppose OSAS, which has always been a major red flag for me. No unbelievers will go to Heaven. (John 3:18)

 

[kcnalp]

It's obvious. I've read through multiple OSAS threads and they are saturated with posts from you.

Why is that a problem for you?

I've noticed that ALL false religions and cults that promote works salvation strongly oppose OSAS, which has always been a major red flag for me.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate you saying I can never be unsaved. Wish I could say the same for you!

No unbelievers will go to Heaven.(John 3:18)

You realize you're trampling on Blood Bought 1953 OSASer's comment, right?

 

[mailmandan]

Why is that a problem for you?

I didn't say it was a problem for me. Just making the point you are absolutely obsessed with this topic.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate you saying I can never be unsaved. Wish I could say the same for you!

So you are saying that OSAS only applies to you but not me?

You realize you're trampling on Blood Bought 1953 OSASer's comment, right?

Are you seeking to pit he and I against each other? Is this entertaining for you?

 

[kcnalp]

I didn't say it was a problem for me. Just making the point you are absolutely obsessed with this topic.

You're the one obsessing over my posts. Are you Democrat? They're real obsessed with accusing others of what they do.

So you are saying that OSAS only applies to you but not me?

It's perfectly clear that if OSAS is right I can't be unsaved. If OSAS is wrong you can be unsaved. I can't lose, but you can.

Are you seeking to pit he and I against each other? Is this entertaining for you?

Ok, you don't want to talk about OSAS errors. Got it!

 

[mailmandan]

You're the one obsessing over my posts. Are you Democrat? They're real obsessed with accusing others of what they do.

It's perfectly clear that if OSAS is right I can't be unsaved. If OSAS is wrong you can be unsaved. I can't lose.

Ok, you don't want to talk about OSAS errors. Got it!

I'm a Republican, not a Democrat. I've been in numerous discussions with people over the years on various Christian forum sites who obsess over disproving OSAS. Only those who are truly saved/born again to begin with can't lose. I've been in hundreds if not thousands of discussions with NOSAS opponents over alleged OSAS errors over the years so none of your arguments will be anything new or enlightening.

 

[kcnalp]

I'm a Republican, not a Democrat.

That's good, I guess.

I've been in numerous discussions with people over the years on various Christian forum sites who obsess over disproving OSAS. Only those who are truly saved/born again to begin with can't lose. I've been in hundreds if not thousands of discussions with NOSAS opponents over alleged OSAS errors over the years so none of your arguments will be anything new or enlightening.

Again, I appreciate OSAS saying I can never be unsaved! Wish I could say the same about OSASers.