Lieing Rebellious Spirit From The Beginning

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The misuse of the self by the "more subtle than any" serpent. When Adam took in him that tree that was not to be partaken of he received what we call now a 'sin nature,' The nature of the 'more subtle than any' serpent-seed-nature-rebellious-selfish-soul. And now Adam would live by that nature-seed as was designed to live by but chose the wrong life-nature-seed-life-life, but choose death life over life-life.

Because Adam believed the lie and, the father of lies became his father. A birth took place - the first birth to ever take place happened in Adam and Eve as they had disobeyed God and believed the lieing spirit Satan. Now we can thank God as born again believers because he - hear it is for all that love cancell culture today - God cancelled that lieing-rebellious-separating-spirit-Satan nature. That nature is out-destroyed-crucified-killed- cancelled. The original sinner was out out of Adam and is dead by God providing himself a lamb that had been crucified in God's mind before the foundation of the world. hallelujah! So now all in Adam are dead in Christ or the nature was killed out at the cross, and to all that believe they get a new nature called - a Christ in you nature, shared life nature - two became one at the moment of birth - (born again).

You don't need to confess as a sinner by nsture - you need to believe. Glory to God. Desd and gone as far as the east is from the wedy a believer has a new creation called Christ in you the hope of glory. the new creation is made up of two - you and Christ sre one and done - so it is the mind must catch up to the facts of 'the word if God - or the 'every word that proceeds from my Father' Jesus said.

scripture says he was the murderer from the beginning; Satan was the lieing murderer not you. You partool because of Adams disobedience but Adam was not the murdering lieing spirit - he just revieved in disobedience the original lieing spirit.

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. - John 8:44.

He - Satan - was the sinner from the beginning - not you, not me, not Adam - but the lieing rebellious spirit that fell from heaven as lightening - was patiently waiting for another opportunity and when Adam believed the lie - he was back in operation. He - Lucifer was back in the world by a seed, and I'm sure other influences to plague humanity all the days of their life.

15 and I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. - Genesis 3:15.

By one man sin entered in - and by one man it was put to death.

12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: - Romans 5:12.

Stop trying to crucify yourself - your already dead Adam. Adam you will find out is a religious rebellious sinning soul that does not cease but by the word of God - can he cease.

What did Jesus say; 'I live only by the words that proceed from the mouth of my Father. Glory!

Jesus Father is now our Father by a birthing in spirit and the mind will have to follow suit to know what it is that makes you who you are.

My prayer is; The Lord minister to His body - His bonified offspring - so we know the hope that is in us. Paul prayed like this; That the eyes of your understanding be enlightened that you may know. Bless you.

18 the eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, - Ephesians 1:18.
 
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The misuse of the self by the "more subtle than any" serpent. When Adam took in him that tree that was not to be partaken of he received what we call now a 'sin nature,' The nature of the 'more subtle than any' serpent-seed-nature-rebellious-selfish-soul. And now Adam would live by that nature-seed as was designed to live by but chose the wrong life-nature-seed-life-life, but choose death life over life-life.

Because Adam believed the lie and, the father of lies became his father. A birth took place - the first birth to ever take place happened in Adam and Eve as they had disobeyed God and believed the lieing spirit Satan. Now we can thank God as born again believers because he - hear it is for all that love cancell culture today - God cancelled that lieing-rebellious-separating-spirit-Satan nature. That nature is out-destroyed-crucified-killed- cancelled. The original sinner was out out of Adam and is dead by God providing himself a lamb that had been crucified in God's mind before the foundation of the world. hallelujah! So now all in Adam are dead in Christ or the nature was killed out at the cross, and to all that believe they get a new nature called - a Christ in you nature, shared life nature - two became one at the moment of birth - (born again).

You don't need to confess as a sinner by nsture - you need to believe. Glory to God. Desd and gone as far as the east is from the wedy a believer has a new creation called Christ in you the hope of glory. the new creation is made up of two - you and Christ sre one and done - so it is the mind must catch up to the facts of 'the word if God - or the 'every word that proceeds from my Father' Jesus said.

scripture says he was the murderer from the beginning; Satan was the lieing murderer not you. You partool because of Adams disobedience but Adam was not the murdering lieing spirit - he just revieved in disobedience the original lieing spirit.

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. - John 8:44.

He - Satan - was the sinner from the beginning - not you, not me, not Adam - but the lieing rebellious spirit that fell from heaven as lightening - was patiently waiting for another opportunity and when Adam believed the lie - he was back in operation. He - Lucifer was back in the world by a seed, and I'm sure other influences to plague humanity all the days of their life.

15 and I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. - Genesis 3:15.

By one man sin entered in - and by one man it was put to death.

12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: - Romans 5:12.

Stop trying to crucify yourself - your already dead Adam. Adam you will find out is a religious rebellious sinning soul that does not cease but by the word of God - can he cease.

What did Jesus say; 'I live only by the words that proceed from the mouth of my Father. Glory!

Jesus Father is now our Father by a birthing in spirit and the mind will have to follow suit to know what it is that makes you who you are.

My prayer is; The Lord minister to His body - His bonified offspring - so we know the hope that is in us. Paul prayed like this; That the eyes of your understanding be enlightened that you may know. Bless you.

18 the eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, - Ephesians 1:18.

Who are the seeds of Genesis 3:15 Mike?
 

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Who are the seeds of Genesis 3:15 Mike?

Keep reading and searching the scriptures is my best answer. I have numerous articles and maybe one can speak to your question. By reading you will know my understanding as best possible anyway. If you're interested.
 

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Have we discussed it before I can't remember what I did last nite haha have to love age. But anyway if you have time thump through a couple articles or whatever and I would like to talk about anything that comes up. Thanks for commenting your my best customer lol.
 

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Well, I would say the seed of Life comes from God and the seed of Death comes from rebellion against God,
or following the devil.
Perhaps the seed of death was sown the day they disobeyed and walked away.
The seperation of the life giving umbilical cord.

We had to grow up. We had to learn.. apparently the hard way.
That God is our life, and without him we are dead. Walking dead.

Like the prodigal son. The father did not go after his son and call him back.
He sat by patiently and longsuffering, knowing what he was experiencing in the world.
Hunger mostly.
Hunger carnally and also hunger spiritually.. or.. wanting to be homeward bound.
even if that meant he had to become as a hiredhand to be there.

God breathed into Adam's nostrils and gave man life.
Adam held his breath.. and suffocated to death.
God sent his Word (Jesus) and he breathed in his disciples nostrils.
And they recieved his breath and became a living soul.

Life is in the Word. It's in the breath of God.

I find it ironic and symbolic that everyone is being forced to wear a mask...
The Life flow is being obstructed by a carnal piece of cloth. Called Fear.

now I'm rambling..
just thinking
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Well, I would say the seed of Life comes from God and the seed of Death comes from rebellion against God,
or following the devil.
Perhaps the seed of death was sown the day they disobeyed and walked away.
The seperation of the life giving umbilical cord.

We had to grow up. We had to learn.. apparently the hard way.
That God is our life, and without him we are dead. Walking dead.

Like the prodigal son. The father did not go after his son and call him back.
He sat by patiently and longsuffering, knowing what he was experiencing in the world.
Hunger mostly.
Hunger carnally and also hunger spiritually.. or.. wanting to be homeward bound.
even if that meant he had to become as a hiredhand to be there.

God breathed into Adam's nostrils and gave man life.
Adam held his breath.. and suffocated to death.
God sent his Word (Jesus) and he breathed in his disciples nostrils.
And they recieved his breath and became a living soul.

Life is in the Word. It's in the breath of God.

I find it ironic and symbolic that everyone is being forced to wear a mask...
The Life flow is being obstructed by a carnal piece of cloth. Called Fear.

now I'm rambling..
just thinking
Hugs

Yes keeping in mind that a individual does what they do based on their nature. Important to see a birth in scripture on both sides. Everything is coming from nature - in Adam as well as in Christ' all based on nature. Everything God has done and doing is based on a nature. First Adam and last Adam. No grey areas in God he pin points humanities problem - wasn't their creation it was the nature that caused the problem that had to be fixed by Jesus on the cross. Thanks for commenting.
 
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Well, I would say the seed of Life comes from God and the seed of Death comes from rebellion against God,
or following the devil.
Perhaps the seed of death was sown the day they disobeyed and walked away.
The seperation of the life giving umbilical cord.

We had to grow up. We had to learn.. apparently the hard way.
That God is our life, and without him we are dead. Walking dead.

Like the prodigal son. The father did not go after his son and call him back.
He sat by patiently and longsuffering, knowing what he was experiencing in the world.
Hunger mostly.
Hunger carnally and also hunger spiritually.. or.. wanting to be homeward bound.
even if that meant he had to become as a hiredhand to be there.

God breathed into Adam's nostrils and gave man life.
Adam held his breath.. and suffocated to death.
God sent his Word (Jesus) and he breathed in his disciples nostrils.
And they recieved his breath and became a living soul.

Life is in the Word. It's in the breath of God.

I find it ironic and symbolic that everyone is being forced to wear a mask...
The Life flow is being obstructed by a carnal piece of cloth. Called Fear.

now I'm rambling..
just thinking
Hugs

The prodigal son was a son. For years I heard it was a sinner/backslider and a saint, but it reads; a certain man had two sons. The thinking on sinner backslider is; you can leave being a son. That is really a stretch in scripture and does not hold water, as well as the weight of scripture for being a son by birth. I get the understanding but we will judge someone into hell in a minute and scripture had nothing to say about so there is no argument just theory or some man made doctrine.
 

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Keep reading and searching the scriptures is my best answer. I have numerous articles and maybe one can speak to your question. By reading you will know my understanding as best possible anyway. If you're interested.

That is a very critical question Mike, the first prophecy, but so much is said, not only that but the entire Bible really relates on that prophecy. One of the seeds of course is Jesus, the other seed is not satan himself rather it is his organization, all those who side with him in the issue of Sovereignty. Do you agree with that explanation Michael?
 

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That is a very critical question Mike, the first prophecy, but so much is said, not only that but the entire Bible really relates on that prophecy. One of the seeds of course is Jesus, the other seed is not satan himself rather it is his organization, all those who side with him in the issue of Sovereignty. Do you agree with that explanation Michael?

How do they come to side with him. I'm saying - in my understanding of scripture it all happens by a birthing - first Adam as well as last Adam. Humanity is in one or the other.. we had no choice in our first birth, Adam made the choice. The last Adam we were chosen, and that comes about by a birthing - you must be born again to be in Christ'. Seeds come about by birth - look at natural birth or nature it self - earth nature - mother nature they call it. All by a birth, a seed - after it's kind.. The birthing in scripture is the key to understanding, that will open up the scriptures to a believer, thanks bud.
 

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Just a reminder..
There is a camping trip this weekend and all are welcome.
Breakfast is almost ready and the coffee is hot.
We been doing some fishing and getting ready to go hiking..
Come on along and have fun at the virtual Camp with friends
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CB Camp
 

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Just a reminder..
There is a camping trip this weekend and all are welcome.
Breakfast is almost ready and the coffee is hot.
We been doing some fishing and getting ready to go hiking..
Come on along and have fun at the virtual Camp with friends
Hugs
CB Camp
Where you's camping?
 
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One of the seeds of course is Jesus, the other seed is not satan himself rather it is his organization, all those who side with him in the issue of Sovereignty. Do you agree with that explanation Michael?

So what I'm saying is what causes an individual created in the image and likeness of God to side with Satan as stated in quote? My understanding there is root to everything. You have anything on that per say?
 
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So what I'm saying is what causes an individual created in the image and likeness of God to side with Satan as stated in quote? My understanding there is root to everything. You have anything on that per say?
It was the clay... the body is weak..
that's what I think
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The body in itself has no life! Just a container.
True.
The clay was formed first. God breathed life into the clay and it became a living soul.
Love God with all your heart and mind and soul.
It is his temple.. a living sacrifice.
It has no life in itself, it is God that sustains.
But the flesh is weak and the spirit is willing.

Rom 8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

The flesh was being tested and it failed.

thinking..
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waiting for @April_Rose to start the trail hike. She has the map.
She mentioned something about going to a:

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But the flesh is weak and the spirit is willing.

The flesh was not created weak. I get disobedience but my question is always what happened to Adam when he ate - he was not to eat from the particular tree. When he did - what happened to cause the creature to become; there is always cause and effect per say.

That is cool your hanging out, were you guys friends before or through the site?

Rom 8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
 
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