Jesus Is Our Truth, Reward, And Faithfulness So We Can Lie, Steal, and Fornicate?

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Phoneman777

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have a look at Jude 1:10 in the context - "yet these people slander everything they do not understand"
→ Michael does not understand why Satan wants the body of Moses, but Michael is a contrasting example that condemns the people Jude speaks of.

you think the LORD does not understand? that's what you imply.
you slander what you don't understand, but Michael wouldst not.
When God rebukes the devil, He does it in the name of the Lord...this is His method in both Zechariah and in Jude.

I swear, you OSAS folks are so twisted in your theology you think an ordinary angel is:
  • potent enough to deliver the Lord's rebuke to the mightiest angel in his own name
  • potent enough to raise the dead with his own voice
  • referred to as Daniel's "GREAT Prince", while Jesus is just merely Messiah "the Prince".:rolleyes:
 
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The law was a handwriting of ordinances against us as sinners, but as saints it is nailed to the cross with Jesus. No longer to be feared and transgressed against, but to be written in our hearts, so that like David, we can say, "I love the law of God".
Deuteronomy 31:24-26 KJV says the handwriting that was "against" us was the handwriting of Moses in the Mosaic Law which was placed OUTSIDE the Ark and contained penalties and curses...

...while the Ten Commandments, which were placed INSIDE the Ark and contained blessing and promises.

The Biblical distinction between the Mosaic and the Moral Laws are easily seen for anyone willing to be honest with themselves, but to those who wish to lump both together so that both can be nailed to the Cross, they do so against the will of God.
 

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An "archangel" is a type of angel. Albeit a higher ranking one, an angel nonetheless. Hebrews makes it abundantly clear that Christ is not an angel.
Where's that in Scripture? "Archangel" literally means "ruler of angels", which is Jesus.

"Michael" means "Who is like God" -- to Whom can such an approbation be assigned except Jesus?
 

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So this thread is about the Sabbath still being law of God, or a Commandment that is everlasting through both Covenants.

Then that would apply to Circumcision, which was before the Law and in the Law of Moses.

In any case the Law of Moses was done away with at the cross and changed into the Law of Christ for the New Testament.

The only Scriptures that make commandment and law of Christians are those of the New Testament after the death of Jesusw on the cross.

And the Sabbath is never stated as either commandment or law.

That doesn't mean a Christian can't keep the Sabbath, because all Scripture everywhere is still good to do by personal faith, but you don't teach it as law for all, except it is written as such in the Scripture of the New Covenant.
Circumcision, along with the rest of the Mosaic Law, as nailed to the Cross....the Ten Commandments "stand fast forever and ever".

Good gravy, why is it so hard to get people to understand that Christians are free to disregard the keeping of Passover, but we will NEVER be at liberty to kill, steal, lie, worship satan, etc.???
 

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Nope, I don't disagree at all.
Jesus Is Our Truth, Reward, And Faithfulness So We Can Lie, Steal, and Fornicate!

Any and every claim to righteousness that I have comes from Jesus and not from any innate goodness in me. If I lie, God still loves and accepts me because of His Son (Jesus). If I steal, God still loves and accepts me because of His Son (Jesus). If I commit adultery (I am married, so it is not simple fornication), God still loves and accepts me because of His Son (Jesus).

Since God loves me with such a great love that even lying, stealing and fornication cannot separate me from Jesus Christ and the love of God ... why on Earth would I want to repay that LOVE with such ingratitude by breaking His heart with sin? It is bad enough when I stumble and have to go before Him with tear stained eyes to beg His forgiveness ... because He is the only one that can wipe away the tears and the sins.

Who deliberately smashes their thumb with a hammer? Sure, we can, but only a fool would. So anyone CAN but nobody DOES.
You, my friend, are the poster child for "Presumptuous Sinner".

The Just Man falls down in the pit of sin and rises again, but you claim the Christian may climb down a ladder into the pit, sit down comfortably among the filth, swat the uplifting hand of Jesus away, and wave a "OSAS License to Sin" in Jesus' face. That, friend, is not salvation - it is "presumption" which King David calls "the GREAT transgression".

Didja miss that part about "whosever confesseth AND FORSAKETH them shall have mercy"?
 

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Anyone reading James with their eyes open can see that the context of the "Law of Liberty" and the "Royal Law" are the Ten Commandments, by virtue of his mention of "kill" and "adultery".

Oh, yes, some argue James means to say "we should give up trying to keep any of them, seeing that if we break on, we're guilty of all" -- which is light years from the truth.

James' words strike at the very heart of the false doctrine of OSAS, saying that if we think we're getting into heaven by willful disregard of what Jesus calls any "least commandment", we've got another thing coming: instead, he tells us we need to prepare to be judged by the Ten Commandmetns, which means being careful not to be found in violation of them, right or wrong?

No, they are not. The Law of Liberty is not based on the Ten Commandments; it goes far deeper to be ultimately righteous, not just in the letter of the Law.

I agree that OSAS is a false doctrine.

You said: "he (Jesus) tells us we need to prepare to be judged by the Ten Commandmetns" but you didn't give a scripture reference of where He said that. May I see it please?
 

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Circumcision, along with the rest of the Mosaic Law, as nailed to the Cross....the Ten Commandments "stand fast forever and ever".

Good gravy, why is it so hard to get people to understand that Christians are free to disregard the keeping of Passover, but we will NEVER be at liberty to kill, steal, lie, worship satan, etc.???

What you don't understand is that if you truly LOVE, the Law of Liberty, you can't hate, so therefore won't murder or steal or lie or commit adultery. (The Law of Liberty is NOT the Ten Commandments.) So by LOVE you cannot break any of the old Ten Commandments, and why they are obsolete. Don't you understand that with them, you could still hate and not be perfect as the Father is perfect? They were only in place UNTIL Jesus brought forth the Covenant of the SPIRIT, and sinlessness, and no longer the LETTER by the carnal flesh.

So you see how ridiculous it is to say that without the Ten Commandments we believe we can murder, when it would be impossible if you truly loved.
 
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Archangel is a term a rank. It is merely an angel with rank over other angels.



Jesus isn't "like" God... He IS God.

An Archangel is over a country, like the demonic Archangel, the Prince of Persia. Michael is the Archangel over Israel. And, of course, he is not alone but has warrior angels under his command.
 
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Here is Biblically, irrefutable proof for why the Moral and the Mosaic are separate and distinct:

Moral Law Distinct From The Mosaic Law

*The Mosaic Law was written by the hand of Moses, written on scrolls, placed outside the Ark, and was against them by virtue of the penalties and curses contained therein (Deuteronomy 31:24-26 KJV)....

...but in contrast, the Ten Commandment Law of God was written with His finger (Exodus 31:18 KJV), on both sides of stone tablets (Exodus 32:15 KJV), placed inside the Ark (Exodus 25:16 KJV), and contained blessings, not curses (Exodus 20:11 KJV; Exodus 20:12 KJV).

*In 2 Kings 21:8 KJV, God promises Israel permanent residence if they keep His Law and the Mosaic law.

*In 2 Chronicles 33:8 KJV, God promises the same if they will obey His Law and the Mosaic Law.

*In Daniel 9:11KJV, he confessed that his people disobeyed the God's Law and the Mosaic Law.

*In Deuteronomy 4:13-14 KJV, Moses says God commanded the people to keep His Law and commanded Moses to give them the Mosaic Law.

*In Leviticus 23:37-38 KJV, God said the annual Feast Day sabbaths of the Jews in the Mosaic Law were "besides" the weekly Sabbaths of the Lord contained in the Ten Commandments.

*In Romans 7:12 KJV, Paul refers to God's Law (identified as such by his reference to the Tenth Commandment in Romans 7:7 KJV) as "holy, just, and good", but refers to the Mosaic Law concerning the Levitical priesthood as a "carnal" commandment in Hebrews 7:16 KJV. If there is only one law, please explain how the same law is "holy, just, good" and "carnal" at the same time.

*The Ten Commandments existed before Mount Sinai: Cain knew murder was wrong; Abraham knew lying was wrong; Abraham also kept God's "charge, commandments, statutes, and laws"; Rachel knew stealing was wrong; Jacob knew idolatry in the form of jewelry was wrong; Joseph knew adultery was wrong; and God chided with the children of Israel in Exodus 16:28 KJV for not keeping "My Laws" because they broke the Sabbath Commandment before they even got anywhere near Mount Sinai in chapter 20.

*Paul says in Galatians 3:19 KJV that the Mosaic Law was "added because of transgression" -- transgression of an already existing law: the Ten Commandments -- "until the Seed should come". When Jesus was crucified, the Mosaic Law was nailed to the Cross with Him (Colossians 2:14-17 KJV) while the Ten Commandments will "stand fast forever and ever" (Psalms 111:7:8 KJV).

There’s NO DISTINCTION within the law of Moses: it ALL has to be kept when it’s in effect, in order for them to have righteousness:

Ye shall diligently keep the commandments of the LORD your God, and his testimonies, and his statutes, which he hath commanded thee.

Deu 6:18 And thou shalt do that which is right and good in the sight of the LORD: that it may be well with thee, and that thou mayest go in and possess the good land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers,

Deu 6:19 To cast out all thine enemies from before thee, as the LORD hath spoken.

Deu 6:20 And when thy son asketh thee in time to come, saying, What mean the testimonies, and the statutes, and the judgments, which the LORD our God hath commanded you?

Deu 6:21 Then thou shalt say unto thy son, We were Pharaoh's bondmen in Egypt; and the LORD brought us out of Egypt with a mighty hand:

Deu 6:22 And the LORD shewed signs and wonders, great and sore, upon Egypt, upon Pharaoh, and upon all his household, before our eyes:

Deu 6:23 And he brought us out from thence, that he might bring us in, to give us the land which he sware unto our fathers.

Deu 6:24 And the LORD commanded us to do ALL these statutes, to fear the LORD our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as it is at this day.

Deu 6:25 And it shall be our righteousness, if we observe to do ALL these commandments before the LORD our God, as he hath commanded us.

And notice that every law, statute and command was from God, not from Moses inventing any of it.

In fact as more proof that all the law put in the book of the law was given by God, and not from Moses making any of it up, God warns of very very severe consequences for Israel if they DON’T keep everything in it:

Deu 28:58 “If you are not careful to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that you may fear this glorious and awesome name, the LORD your God,

Deu 28:59 then the LORD will bring on you and your offspring extraordinary afflictions, afflictions severe and lasting, and sicknesses grievous and lasting.

Deu 28:60 And he will bring upon you again all the diseases of Egypt, of which you were afraid, and they shall cling to you.

Deu 28:61 Every sickness also and every affliction that is not recorded in the book of this law, the LORD will bring upon you, until you are destroyed.

If you want to quote the NT, quote all it says about the law, like how Christians are dead to the law, and now are married to Jesus instead of the law, and have been DELIVERED FROM the law:

Rom 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

Or that the law doesn’t apply to Christians, just to the unconverted, because the law is NOT MEANT for a RIGHTEOUS MAN, but for the UNGODLY and for MURDERERS:

1Ti 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

1Ti 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

Christians are the righteousness of God in Christ, thus the law is null and void for us.

Php 3:9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

And this agrees:

Rom 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

Thus it hasn’t passed away, it just doesn’t apply to those born again, since it’s only meant for the ungodly and murderers, etc. 1 Tim 1:9 above.

And do t forget it says that BEFORE faith came, we were imprisoned by the law, locked up by it until the coming of Christ, and now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian:

Gal 3:23 Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed.

Gal 3:24 So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith.

Gal 3:25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian,

The ten commands do not appear anywhere until after the Exodus. They may have had some rules before then, but NOT the Decalogue nor the law, because scripture says plainly that THE LAW was given 430 years AFTER ABRAHAM.

Gal 3:17 This is what I mean: the law, which came 430 years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void.

In fact in Deuteronomy 5, under the chapter heading THE TEN COMMANDS, Moses clearly states that he’s about to give Israel what he received on the mountain, and says NO ONE HAD these laws before now, NOT EVEN OUR FATHERS, but to us only has this law been given.

Deu 5:1 And Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn them, and keep, and do them.

Deu 5:2 The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.

Deu 5:3 The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day.

And don’t forget that the ten commands ARE the covenant, on two tables of stone. Moses was giving that covenant in Deuteronomy 5.

You quoted Galatians 3 that the law was added because of transgressions, which is very true - you just neglected to mention that in the same chapter that it was NOT given until 430 years after Abraham:

Gal 3:16 Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many, but referring to one, “And to your offspring,” who is Christ.

Gal 3:17 This is what I mean: the law, which came 430 years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void.

No one had mount Sinai Covenant law until 430 years after Abraham.

In fact from Adam to Moses, there was no law of the type given to Moses, so sin was present in the world, but not IMPUTED to men where there is no law:

Rom 5:12 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned—

Rom 5:13 for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law.

Christians are absolutely not under the law of Moses Sinai covenant, which includes the Decalogue.

The two love commands far exceed the ten in how well and kindly we treat our neighbors.

They are a superior law, the law of love, which is also called the law of Christ in the New Testament.

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If Michael is the "Great Prince", and Messiah is merely "the Prince"...Houston, we have a problem.;)
Hello @Phoneman777,

There is no problem. :)

Daniel 10:13, 21; Daniel 12:1; Jude 1:9; Revelation 12:7, are the only references, within their context, which mention Michael: and only within their framework do we find any information concerning him directly. There may be indirect references to him that I am unaware of, but these only contain direct reference to his name, and give us any knowledge of 'who' and 'what' he is, and what he does.

It is not for us to conjecture or to imply anything concerning him which is not verifiable by what is written down in God's word.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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Handling an emergency on the Sabbath is not a violation. Teaching people we don't have to keep it will land such an impenitent one in the Lake of Fire with the rest of "the least", and they will get zero mercy, no matter how much they gnash their rebel teeth.
First of all, Jesus said they would be least in heaven, not be in the lake of fire.

Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Secondly, when you make keeping an ended day of rest a requirement of salvation, you’ve put yourself under the law, fallen from grace, and made Christ of no effect unto you, warned Paul.
 

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Only problem with that is God has already commanded us to work the first six days - and He's not going to contradict Himself with making Sunday a "holy" day of rest - that's why the apostate papal church had to do it, and the entire Christian world is following "a multitude to do evil".

Mankind can't make anything holy...they can only "keep" holy that which God declares holy, right or wrong?
Not "US" ... My ancestors were inventing stories about THOR and nailing Christ to a tree.
The OT was NEVER given to ME. Christ offered me the real "good news" that "If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.” For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” [see Romans 10 for context]

So I did and He did.

That means that "Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ." [see Colossians 2 for context].

I delight in the reality and leave the shadows of the law behind. I am at rest EVERY DAY from the labor of striving to be Holy (God made me Holy in Christ already) which leaves me free to engage in true worship by doing good on every day, including the Sabbath. [see Luke 6 for context]
 

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You, my friend, are the poster child for "Presumptuous Sinner".
Ad Hominem is not a legitimate refutation, but an informal logical fallacy.

You have demonstrated the art of "waiting to speak" rather than "listening" since your conclusions are non-sequitur to the actual statements that I made in my post. I invite you to go back and actually READ what I posted before you attempt to refute it.

"Those who speak before they listen are answering questions that nobody is asking."
Try again and I will get back to you.
 
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"OSAS License to Sin"
OSAS is a sloppy phrase.
I believe in Perseverance of the Saints, explained in this quote from R.C. Sproul as follows:

"Writing to the Philippians, Paul says, “He who has begun a good work in you will perfect it to the end” (Phil. 1:6). Therein is the promise of God that what He starts in our souls, He intends to finish. So the old axiom in Reformed theology about the perseverance of the saints is this: If you have it—that is, if you have genuine faith and are in a state of saving grace—you will never lose it. If you lose it, you never had it."

We know that many people make professions of faith, then turn away and repudiate or recant those professions. The Apostle John notes that there were those who left the company of the disciples, and he says of them, “Those who went out from us were never really with us” (1 John 2:19). Of course, they were with the disciples in terms of outward appearances before they departed. They had made an outward profession of faith, and Jesus makes it clear that it is possible for a person to do this even when he doesn’t possess what he’s professing. Jesus says, “This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me” (Matt. 15:8). Jesus even warns at the end of the Sermon on the Mount that at the last day, many will come to Him, saying: “Lord, Lord, didn’t we do this in your name? Didn’t we do that in your name?” He will send them away, saying: “Depart from Me, you workers of iniquity. I never knew you” (Matthew 7:23). He will not say: “I knew you for a season and then you went sour and betrayed Me. No, you never were part of My invisible church.” The whole purpose of God’s election is to bring His people safely to heaven; therefore, what He starts He promises to finish. He not only initiates the Christian life, but the Holy Spirit is with us as the sanctifier, the convictor, and the helper to ensure our preservation.

I want to stress that this endurance in the faith does not rest on our strength. Even after we’re regenerated, we still lapse into sin, even serious sin. We say that it is possible for a Christian to experience a very serious fall, we talk about backsliding, we talk about moral lapses, and so on. I can’t think of any sin, other than blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, that a truly converted Christian is not capable of committing.

We look, for example, at the model of David in the Old Testament. David was surely a man after God’s own heart. He was certainly a regenerate man. He had the Spirit of God in Him. He had a profound and passionate love for the things of God. Yet this man not only committed adultery but also was involved in a conspiracy to have his lover’s husband killed in war—which was really conspiracy to murder. That’s serious business. Even though we see the serious level of repentance to which David was brought as a result of the words of the prophet Nathan to him, the point is that David fell, and he fell seriously.

The apostle Paul warns us against having a puffed-up view of our own spiritual strength. He says, “Therefore let anyone who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall” (1 Cor. 10:12). We do fall into very serious activities. The Apostle Peter, even after being forewarned, rejected Christ, swearing that he never knew Him—a public betrayal of Jesus. He committed treason against His Lord. When he was being warned of this eventuality, Peter said it would never happen. Jesus said, “Simon, Simon, Satan would have you and sift you like wheat, but I have prayed for you, so that when you turn, strengthen the brothers” (Luke 22:31-32).Peter fell, but he returned. He was restored. His fall was for a season. That’s why we say that true Christians can have radical and serious falls but never total and final falls from grace.

I think this little catchphrase, perseverance of the saints, is dangerously misleading. It suggests that the perseverance is something that we do, perhaps in and of ourselves. I believe that saints do persevere in faith, and that those who have been effectually called by God and have been reborn by the power of the Holy Spirit endure to the end. However, they persevere not because they are so diligent in making use of the mercies of God. The only reason we can give why any of us continue on in the faith is because we have been preserved. So I prefer the term the preservation of the saints, because the process by which we are kept in a state of grace is something that is accomplished by God. My confidence in my preservation is not in my ability to persevere. My confidence rests in the power of Christ to sustain me with His grace and by the power of His intercession. He is going to bring us safely home.
To describe this as a "license to sin" is to be ignorant of what the Reformed (Particular Baptists in my case) believe and what Scripture teaches.
 
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"It is a CAPITAL MISTAKE to theorize before one has data." - Sherlock Holmes

You obviously don't have clue one about this issue.

If there's no Biblical evidence for this, then why was it a commonly accepted teaching by many sincere Christians and taught in authoritative commentaries which line the bookshelves of pastors and teachers today?
You're quoting "Sherlock Holmes" and saying I "don't have a clue"? You should read your own posts!
 

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"First of all, I am not judging anyone. I choose and I believe we should choose to follow the 10 commandments as they are written even though we are living the law of Christ."

So, it's not the 4th Suggestion, nor necessarily the 4th Commandment, but rather is the 4th Choice?

You do better to stick to your guns and say plainly that you do judge according to Sabbaths, because Sabbath is a commandment, not a suggestion, nor a choice, except to choose not to is willful transgression and iniquity against God.

We are to judge righteously (John 7:24), but not by appearance (Matthew 6:16), nor hypocritically (Rom 2). And we are commanded to judge one another according to the rule of Christ and to mark them that walk disorderly (2 Thess 3:6), and to even avoid company with them that openly fornicate, while calling themselves 'brother'. (1 Cor 5:11)

If the Sabbath were indeed a commandment of the Law of Christ, even as loving thy neighbor as thyself, then I would be compelled by Scripture to judge them that refuse to do so, who also reject any reproof of the church, as publicans and heathen (Matthew 18:17).

You're refusal to acknowledge your judgement in this matter as righteous and true, is an admission that the Sabbath is not a commandment of the Lord for all believers to obey and follow.
 

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You're quoting "Sherlock Holmes" and saying I "don't have a clue"? You should read your own posts!
"If there's no Biblical evidence for this, then why was it a commonly accepted teaching by many sincere Christians and taught in authoritative commentaries which line the bookshelves of pastors and teachers today?"

Sometimes, you wonder what people are thinking about, then they write such things.

The obvious answer is they are ALL wrong, if there is no Scripture to prove it.

Not healing on the Sabbath was accepted teaching by many sincere Jews and taught in rabbinical commentaries which lined the bookshelves of Rabbis and scribes of the day.

It's called traditions and commandment of men.

The only authoritative 'commentary' of Scripture is Scripture.

Afterall, how many sincere bookshelves are line with the Blessed Virgin Mary and her Immaculate Conception into eternal Motherhood of God?
 

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OSAS is a sloppy phrase.
I believe in Perseverance of the Saints, explained in this quote from R.C. Sproul as follows:

"Writing to the Philippians, Paul says, “He who has begun a good work in you will perfect it to the end” (Phil. 1:6). Therein is the promise of God that what He starts in our souls, He intends to finish. So the old axiom in Reformed theology about the perseverance of the saints is this: If you have it—that is, if you have genuine faith and are in a state of saving grace—you will never lose it. If you lose it, you never had it."

We know that many people make professions of faith, then turn away and repudiate or recant those professions. The Apostle John notes that there were those who left the company of the disciples, and he says of them, “Those who went out from us were never really with us” (1 John 2:19). Of course, they were with the disciples in terms of outward appearances before they departed. They had made an outward profession of faith, and Jesus makes it clear that it is possible for a person to do this even when he doesn’t possess what he’s professing. Jesus says, “This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me” (Matt. 15:8). Jesus even warns at the end of the Sermon on the Mount that at the last day, many will come to Him, saying: “Lord, Lord, didn’t we do this in your name? Didn’t we do that in your name?” He will send them away, saying: “Depart from Me, you workers of iniquity. I never knew you” (Matthew 7:23). He will not say: “I knew you for a season and then you went sour and betrayed Me. No, you never were part of My invisible church.” The whole purpose of God’s election is to bring His people safely to heaven; therefore, what He starts He promises to finish. He not only initiates the Christian life, but the Holy Spirit is with us as the sanctifier, the convictor, and the helper to ensure our preservation.

I want to stress that this endurance in the faith does not rest on our strength. Even after we’re regenerated, we still lapse into sin, even serious sin. We say that it is possible for a Christian to experience a very serious fall, we talk about backsliding, we talk about moral lapses, and so on. I can’t think of any sin, other than blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, that a truly converted Christian is not capable of committing.

We look, for example, at the model of David in the Old Testament. David was surely a man after God’s own heart. He was certainly a regenerate man. He had the Spirit of God in Him. He had a profound and passionate love for the things of God. Yet this man not only committed adultery but also was involved in a conspiracy to have his lover’s husband killed in war—which was really conspiracy to murder. That’s serious business. Even though we see the serious level of repentance to which David was brought as a result of the words of the prophet Nathan to him, the point is that David fell, and he fell seriously.

The apostle Paul warns us against having a puffed-up view of our own spiritual strength. He says, “Therefore let anyone who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall” (1 Cor. 10:12). We do fall into very serious activities. The Apostle Peter, even after being forewarned, rejected Christ, swearing that he never knew Him—a public betrayal of Jesus. He committed treason against His Lord. When he was being warned of this eventuality, Peter said it would never happen. Jesus said, “Simon, Simon, Satan would have you and sift you like wheat, but I have prayed for you, so that when you turn, strengthen the brothers” (Luke 22:31-32).Peter fell, but he returned. He was restored. His fall was for a season. That’s why we say that true Christians can have radical and serious falls but never total and final falls from grace.

I think this little catchphrase, perseverance of the saints, is dangerously misleading. It suggests that the perseverance is something that we do, perhaps in and of ourselves. I believe that saints do persevere in faith, and that those who have been effectually called by God and have been reborn by the power of the Holy Spirit endure to the end. However, they persevere not because they are so diligent in making use of the mercies of God. The only reason we can give why any of us continue on in the faith is because we have been preserved. So I prefer the term the preservation of the saints, because the process by which we are kept in a state of grace is something that is accomplished by God. My confidence in my preservation is not in my ability to persevere. My confidence rests in the power of Christ to sustain me with His grace and by the power of His intercession. He is going to bring us safely home.
To describe this as a "license to sin" is to be ignorant of what the Reformed (Particular Baptists in my case) believe and what Scripture teaches.
Your whole argument rests on the belief that only them who never had, turn back from what they never had.

And you quote Jesus as saying I never knew you, as proof He never could have, which is humanist reasoning, and not Scriptural truth:

"When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered."(Ezek 3:20)

Your carnal application of Scripture in fact eliminates the necessity of warning the righteous not to turn from righteousness, that he die not, and his righteousness be remembered no more, and the Lord say in that day, "I never knew you", because his name is blotted out of the book of Life. (Rev 3:5)

It is also a denial of the true doctrine of God, that you no doubt would preach, in that if the wicked turn from his wickedness to the righteousness of God, then his wickedness shall no more be remembered, and him that was not known is now known of the Lord. (Ezek 33) (Isaiah 65:1)

Therefore, your whole case falls apart, and your doctrine is false.