Someone posted this on a surfing message board... the guy called the 3-11-11 earthquake and has predictions for others....
This guy seemed to be right... any thougts?
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I actually saw a report from fox news that said that a geologist that predicted some big earthquake before believes that there is a very, very good chance that there will be a major earthquake near California within the next few days.
Joshua David
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Supposedly, with the new moon this weekend, it is supposed to affect everything and cause another huge quake...this time in California.
Does it say that somewhere in the bible about having to be 100% right? just wondering... not saying it doesn't.. I've just heard that before and wonder where it came from...
I disagree, to be a"prophet of God" he has to be appointed by God. In the old testament this might have been the gage but now under grace things are much different there is not a minister alive that has been right about everything.
Balaam was appointed by God and there's no record of him giving a false prophecy yet Christ calls him a false prophet.
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jf, you don't know anything about Balaam, do you? Show me the verse where he was appointed by God.
That night God came to Balaam and asked him, "Who are these men with you?" Numbers 22:9
"Do not go with them," God told Balaam. "You are not to curse these people, for I have blessed them!" The next morning Balaam got up and told Balak's officials, "Go on home! The LORD will not let me go with you." Numbers 22:12
Then Balaam confessed to the angel of the LORD, "I have sinned. I did not realize you were standing in the road to block my way. I will go back home if you are against my going." But the angel of the LORD told him, "Go with these men, but you may say only what I tell you to say." So Balaam went on with Balak's officials. Numbers 22:34&35
I can post a couple more if you like Tom.
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Then angel of the LORD spoke to Balaam's ass because Balaam couldn't hear or see. Sounds like a real prophet all right. Balaam thought he was speaking for the Lord just like so many people today, but they are not telling the truth and God doesn't like it.
The name Balaam means "not (of the) people" and is from a word that means "failure."
Other sources have Balaam meaning "without a people", "lord of the people" and "destruction of the people".
Doesn't change the fact that God came to Balaam several times and told him what to do and say. You are misunderstanding my point, I am not saying that Balaam was not a false prophet all I am pointing out is that there is no record in the scriptures that ever he uttered a false prophecy.
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Other sources have Balaam meaning "without a people", "lord of the people" and "destruction of the people".
Doesn't change the fact that God came to Balaam several times and told him what to do and say. You are misunderstanding my point, I am not saying that Balaam was not a false prophet all I am pointing out is that there is no record in the scriptures that ever he uttered a false prophecy.
Scripture doesn't waste much space talking about false prophecy; the book would be far too big. It does give a few examples of false prophets that say, "God told me ....." When it's obvious that God didn't tell them anything but maybe the deceiver did.
So what is your point Tom? Do you believe that God didn't go to Balaam and didn't give him something to say?
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Yes, I believe God did not go to Balaam. Balaam claimed He did just like many false prophets claim to speak for God. Read from Numbers 22 through 31. If a prophecy does not come true the prophet is a false prophet. God can speak through an ass so I expect He can also speak through Balaam's. You must be aware of all the false prophets we have as members of CB.
Well you might want to read the scriptures you suggested yourself Tom because the scriptures disagree with you. The scriptures clearly state that God went to Balaam and that an angel of the Lord instruct Balaam to go and give them a message. It's all right there in Numbers 22.
Well you might want to read the scriptures you suggested yourself Tom because the scriptures disagree with you. The scriptures clearly state that God went to Balaam and that an angel of the Lord instruct Balaam to go and give them a message. It's all right there in Numbers 22.
I would agree. Tom, the scripture is pretty clear about this. The bible does not state that Balaam just said, "Thus saith the Lord.", for if that was the case, you might have a point. But the scriptures specifically states that God came to Balaam.
Is there a specific reason you believe that this should not be the correct understanding of that scripture?
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Ok Tomwebster, let's try this again. JF said that the bible calls him a false prophet, he never disputed that point. All he said was that God went to Balaam and told him what to say. Which you deny even though it is clearly and distinctly stated in the Scripture as being such.
This is where you deny it.
And this is the Word of God.
Numbers 22:9-12 [sup]9[/sup] God came to Balaam and asked, “Who are these men with you?” [sup]10[/sup] Balaam said to God, “Balak son of Zippor, king of Moab, sent me this message: [sup]11[/sup] ‘A people that has come out of Egypt covers the face of the land. Now come and put a curse on them for me. Perhaps then I will be able to fight them and drive them away.’”
[sup]12[/sup] But God said to Balaam, “Do not go with them. You must not put a curse on those people, because they are blessed.”
So your issue is not with JF, or me, it is with the Word of God. Like many Christians on this forum and others, you find it very hard to admit that you were wrong, even when you are shown obvious scriptural evidence.
I would hope that you reevaluate your position as well as your attitude in the matter.
Joshua David
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Like I said, God can speak through any ass. Maybe Balaam's ass was a prophet also. Balaam was still a false prophet.
What does this have to do with whether God did or did not go to Balaam?
Joshua David
RACH wrote:
"I suppose we'll have to see. Remember though, that to be a prophet of God he has to be 100% on every call. If he misses even once, he's a false prophet.
Just a thought."
The actual testing of a prophet tells us if the "prophet" is in error - be not afraid of him. (not verbatium) With this understanding one can see the prophets are human as well. Now if the prophet tells you their God told him this prophecy... then, when it does not occur... you will know he is a false prophet.
To prove my contention...
When you made that statement do you realize it makes Elijah (i think) a fasle prophet? Was it Elijah that sent his staff to be placed by the child that the child would be raised from the dead, I am thinking it was him. The childs life was not restored with the use of the staff. However, Elijah certainly was not a false prophet... and when he went himself unto the child, life was restored in the child. Also David tried for a week to restore life to his son, but failed... so much for the 100% - (though I have no doubt David never claimed he would restore his son's life, however he did indeed try.)
Therefore squelch your 100% theory unless that person tells you he or she is a seer (called seer before being changed to prophet) of the one true God and that this is a prophecy, not a prediction.
"I suppose we'll have to see. Remember though, that to be a prophet of God he has to be 100% on every call. If he misses even once, he's a false prophet.
Just a thought."
The actual testing of a prophet tells us if the "prophet" is in error - be not afraid of him. (not verbatium) With this understanding one can see the prophets are human as well. Now if the prophet tells you their God told him this prophecy... then, when it does not occur... you will know he is a false prophet.
To prove my contention...
When you made that statement do you realize it makes Elijah (i think) a fasle prophet? Was it Elijah that sent his staff to be placed by the child that the child would be raised from the dead, I am thinking it was him. The childs life was not restored with the use of the staff. However, Elijah certainly was not a false prophet... and when he went himself unto the child, life was restored in the child. Also David tried for a week to restore life to his son, but failed... so much for the 100% - (though I have no doubt David never claimed he would restore his son's life, however he did indeed try.)
Therefore squelch your 100% theory unless that person tells you he or she is a seer (called seer before being changed to prophet) of the one true God and that this is a prophecy, not a prediction.
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