The problem with the Bible alone!

[Wrangler]

Next thing we'll see out of the Holy See is the pope praying in a Muslim mosque alongside an imam who rejects Jesus Christ and Christians. Oh, wait...

Where are the Catholics defending this abomination?

 

[LTJMP14]

Nice try, sparky - but NOBODY even comes close to the money spent on charitable works than the Catholic Church - who is doing Christ's work on earth. More than most countries, in fact.

How many people does YOUR sect help??
That's what I thought . . .

I am not in a sect or a cult. We proclaim the good news of Jesus Christ to any and all that will hear: to the sick, the lame, the hungry, the tired, the poor, the rich, the healthy, the blue collar, the white collar, the confused, the illiterate, the educated, the migrant, the native, the young, the old, the black, the brown, the white, the fallen, the broken, the grieving...

You didn't mention anything about your rcc proclaiming the gospel message. Is it all about works salvation for Roman catholics?

We also give that which we have to those that are in need, not so that we can say "Look what we did!", but all for the glory of God.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

The problem with the “Bible alone”!

You can easily see why the false doctrine of the “Bible alone” causes so many problems and why we can simply ignor creeds, councils, dogma, and decrees of the holy apostles teaching infallibility with the authority of Christ!

“Bible alone” is false doctrine
Negates the word of God, apostolic councils, creeds, cannons, decrees, dogma, and the teaching authority of the apostles!

The false doctrine of “the Bible Alone” is an attack on Christ and His holy church!
Christ and his church are one acts 9:4
To reject the church or church teaching is to reject Christ!

An attack on the holy church and her divine authority!

Even Christ who is the truth itself is excluded!

Scratch these verses that refer to authority other than the “Bible Alone” our of your Bible!

Isa 22:21-22 Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Lk 1:32 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 Jn 21:17 Acts 1:17 acts 1:26 acts 2:42 acts 8:31 & 35 acts 20:28 eph 2:20 and too many more to mention!

And we can see why trusting in the dogmas, fallibility of men, councils, canons, and teaching is false.

Jesdus HImself said His ?Word is above all! Jesus did not say man shall live by councils, but by the ?word of God!

It is an attack on Jesus and the innocents when crafty men reinterpret the Word of God and substitute that for Gods Word. Like th eperpetual virginity of Mary and Mary's sinlessness!

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Because John is NOT negating the necessity of Teachers OR a hierarchy.

I didn't say he was.
Your response shows me you do not know what 1 John 2:20 and 1 John 2:26-27 means.

 

[amigo de christo]

Jesus didn't belong to a denomination - and the Catholic Church isn't one, either.
It's the Original Tree from which Protestantism splintered - and continues to splinter.

Denominations are man made Protestant factions.

That is what They TOLD yall . They programmed it into your heads and then your hearts that the CC is the original church .
They did to you all , what other denominations did to theirs . THEY progammed your skulls into believing that THEY the one true church
WHEN in truth , Peter himself will rebuke , ON THE DAY of the LORD , that church . Just like they will rebuke the SDA , the JWS ,
the MORMONS . Our walk should have been such a simple walk . But men got hungry and desired power and control .
WELL I dont heed those men . JESUS SHEEP , HEED JESUS . And if it aint the biblical one , THEN ITS SATAN .

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Nice try, sparky - but NOBODY even comes close to the money spent on charitable works

It's not what you spend. It's how much of your wealth that you spend that matters.
And I'd be willing to bet a very low percentage of the Catholic church's take is spent on the charitable things you brag that it does.

 

[amigo de christo]

Nice try, sparky - but NOBODY even comes close to the money spent on charitable works than the Catholic Church - who is doing Christ's work on earth. More than most countries, in fact.

How many people does YOUR sect help??
That's what I thought . . .

Nobody on an individual level comes close to the charitable works of OPRAH WIMPHREY . YET SHE IS IN TOTAL DARKNESS .
Her good works wont save her . You should see the good works of buddists , BUT THEY FALSE .
You should see the good works of some mormons , BUT they false .
You should see some of the good works of even atheists who can give money to the poor , BUT THEY LOST .
Folks better FIGURE OUT , FAITH IN JESUS is what saves . AND YES , IF one is truly a believer , having confessed HIM by mouth
and believed from the heart that GOD rose HIM from the dead , THEY will also be hearers and doers of the Word .
The CC is in dire peril of deadly dangerous doctrines . As is most of even all the protestant realm .
My call is to everyone here . LEARN the BIBLICAL JESUS for yourselves . Cause most men are gonna teach YA another jesus .
AND I REFUSE to capitalize that other jesus , cause if it aint the biblical one , ITS SATAN . How often satan works through men
through men who even claim in mouth , but not heart , JESUS .

 

[Ferris Bueller]

No, I believe that there are false teachers who don't have the Spirit among us that divide the visible church up into factions, because that's who the Bible says does that (Jude 1:19). But, ultimately, they can not divide up the true body of Christ because a true believer equipped with the Spirit of discernment will see their falseness for what it is (see above). A blind guide can't lead a person who sees. Only a blind person who can't see falls into the pit with a blind guide (Matthew 15:14).

That's absolute nonsense.

Then you don't believe the scriptures, lol. Your contention is with John, not me.

He did not say we don't need teachers. He wouldn't need to teach us that if we don't need teachers, lol! He's telling us we don't need anybody to tell us if what we hear is true or false because we have an anointing. We don't need Catholic (or Protestant) priests to tell us what is true and what is not. We can discern that for ourselves because we have the Holy Spirit. And it is through that discernment that the Protestants were able to see the corruption of the Catholics and break away from them. And it is that discernment that shows us today that what you teach is falsehood.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

If that were the case - then these tens of thousands of Protestant factions would be relatively SMALL - or non-existent.

Come on, use your brain.
Just because true believers can discern truth from error by themselves through the Holy Spirit that doesn't mean there aren't going to be false teachers and the divisions they cause. And there are plenty of blind followers to keep the congregations of the blind guides filled up. That's what the Bible says will happen...

"1Now there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2Many will follow in their depravity, and because of them the way of truth will be defamed." 2 Peter 2:1-2
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Because of the anointing the true believer can not be led astray by these false teachers and their varied sects, including the Catholic church. The anointing of the Spirit in the true believer tells them who is teaching truth and who is not.

 

[amigo de christo]

Come on, use your brain.
Just because true believers can discern truth from error by themselves through the Holy Spirit that doesn't mean there aren't going to be false teachers and the divisions they cause. And there are plenty of blind followers to keep the congregations of the blind guides filled up. That's what the Bible says will happen...

"1Now there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2Many will follow in their depravity, and because of them the way of truth will be defamed." 2 Peter 2:1-2
​

Because of the anointing the true believer can not be led astray by these false teachers and their varied sects, including the Catholic church. The anointing of the Spirit in the true believer tells them who is teaching truth and who is not.

Contend for the true faith to the last and final breath wheezes out of those lungs . JESUS IS OUR HOPE . They can keep the rest .

 

[Taken]

Another LONG and psychotic rant -

I understand mental personality complexes that some people have to begin every response with an extreme negative to make themselves appear more creditable...
It's old, boring, immature and a fail.

 

[Taken]

How many people does YOUR sect help??
That's what I thought . . .

LOL - SEE why some people could get by with having a conversation in a mirror?

 

[BreadOfLife]

I am not in a sect or a cult. We proclaim the good news of Jesus Christ to any and all that will hear: to the sick, the lame, the hungry, the tired, the poor, the rich, the healthy, the blue collar, the white collar, the confused, the illiterate, the educated, the migrant, the native, the young, the old, the black, the brown, the white, the fallen, the broken, the grieving...

You didn't mention anything about your rcc proclaiming the gospel message. Is it all about works salvation for Roman catholics?

We also give that which we have to those that are in need, not so that we can say "Look what we did!", but all for the glory of God.

We've been proclaiming the gospel for 2000 years.

Where do you think your Protestant Fathers learned it??
Where do you think you got your New Testament, Einstein?

As to your 2nd idiotic statement - YOU are the one who brought this up.
The Catholic Church doesn't normally go around advertising that we are the largest charitable organization on the planet - UNLESS some angry, ignorant anti-Catholic like YOU says otherwise . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

I didn't say he was.
Your response shows me you do not know what 1 John 2:20 and 1 John 2:26-27 means.

Sooooo, you reject a Church hierarchy - but when I PROVE it from Scripture, you back pedal.
Nice job . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

It's not what you spend. It's how much of your wealth that you spend that matters.
And I'd be willing to bet a very low percentage of the Catholic church's take is spent on the charitable things you brag that it does.

And, like every other ignorant anti-Catholic - you'd LOSE that bet.
The Vatican runs on an annual budget the size of the Archdiocese of Chicago.

The works of art that the Church has commissioned throughout the centuries are NOT financial assets. They give glory to GOD.
Was Solomon told to "sell" all of the treasures in the Temple and give the money to the poor??
NO. God was PLEASED with the fact that Solomon gave God his very BEST.

YOU remind me of Judas, who complained that the woman "wasted" the perfumed oil on Jesus when she COULD have sold it and gave the money to the poor (Matt. 26:9). Jesus REBUKED him for that mindset (Matt. 26:10-11).

 

[BreadOfLife]

Then you don't believe the scriptures, lol. Your contention is with John, not me.

He did not say we don't need teachers. He wouldn't need to teach us that if we don't need teachers, lol! He's telling us we don't need anybody to tell us if what we hear is true or false because we have an anointing. We don't need Catholic (or Protestant) priests to tell us what is true and what is not. We can discern that for ourselves because we have the Holy Spirit. And it is through that discernment that the Protestants were able to see the corruption of the Catholics and break away from them. And it is that discernment that shows us today that what you teach is falsehood.

YOU made a blanket claim:
"because a true believer equipped with the Spirit of discernment will see their falseness for what it is "

This statement is FALSE in the context YOU give it - and the tens of thousands of disjointed and perpetually-splintering Protestant factions that ALL teach competing doctrines are AMPLE evidence of this.

Those who are equipped with the Spirit of discernment are those faithful members of Christ's Church - and NOT rebellious dissidents.

You cannot rebel against Christ's Church and think you're still on His side.
He equates His very SELF with His Church (Acts 9:4-5).

 

[BreadOfLife]

Come on, use your brain.
Just because true believers can discern truth from error by themselves through the Holy Spirit that doesn't mean there aren't going to be false teachers and the divisions they cause. And there are plenty of blind followers to keep the congregations of the blind guides filled up. That's what the Bible says will happen...

"1Now there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2Many will follow in their depravity, and because of them the way of truth will be defamed." 2 Peter 2:1-2
​

Because of the anointing the true believer can not be led astray by these false teachers and their varied sects, including the Catholic church. The anointing of the Spirit in the true believer tells them who is teaching truth and who is not.

And once again, you fail to understand that Christ's Church is a VISIBLE entity (Matt. 5:14).
It's NOT some invisible gaggle of "true believers" who are trapped inside of tens of thousands of perpetually-splintering factions.

It's monolithic.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Nobody on an individual level comes close to the charitable works of OPRAH WIMPHREY . YET SHE IS IN TOTAL DARKNESS .
Her good works wont save her . You should see the good works of buddists , BUT THEY FALSE .
You should see the good works of some mormons , BUT they false .
You should see some of the good works of even atheists who can give money to the poor , BUT THEY LOST .
Folks better FIGURE OUT , FAITH IN JESUS is what saves . AND YES , IF one is truly a believer , having confessed HIM by mouth
and believed from the heart that GOD rose HIM from the dead , THEY will also be hearers and doers of the Word .
The CC is in dire peril of deadly dangerous doctrines . As is most of even all the protestant realm .
My call is to everyone here . LEARN the BIBLICAL JESUS for yourselves . Cause most men are gonna teach YA another jesus .
AND I REFUSE to capitalize that other jesus , cause if it aint the biblical one , ITS SATAN . How often satan works through men
through men who even claim in mouth , but not heart , JESUS .

And, as I educated your fellow ignorant anti-Catholic, @LTJMP14 - we've been proclaiming the Gospel and faith in Christ for 2000 years.

Where do you think your Protestant Fathers learned it??
Where do you think you got your New Testament, Einstein?

Do your homework BEFORE you post.
This is getting embarrassing . . .

 

[LTJMP14]

We've been proclaiming the gospel for 2000 years.

Where do you think your Protestant Fathers learned it??
Where do you think you got your New Testament, Einstein?

As to your 2nd idiotic statement - YOU are the one who brought this up.
The Catholic Church doesn't normally go around advertising that we are the largest charitable organization on the planet - UNLESS some angry, ignorant anti-Catholic like YOU says otherwise . . .

LOL. You have not been doing any such thing. You've been taking and taking and cozying up to baby killers like the Biden's and the Cuomos and the Kennedys of the world. Hypocrites. No different than that Medici fellow, I mean Leo X, cozying up to the political elite of his day (la familia) for cash to fund his lavish lifestyle and secret man-boy love interests.

I can remember in my youth, the priest mentioning aloud during mass the top tithers in the parish, for all the world to hear. Then again in the bulletin, all the top-shelf givers along with their corresponding dollar amounts. Even today, I still get mailed the parish newsletter announcing, among other things, all the great work this one did or that one did, and at the end othe newsletter, a list of all parish expenses and payments to employees. Wouldn't you know it: all the one's that received kudos for doing this and doing that were the highest paid employees of the parish, as well as being some of the wealthiest townspeople.

Filthy lucre is what the Roman church serves. Hide behind all your hospitals and clinics and 501(c)(3) profiteering projects all you want. The Roman catholic church is apostate and has been for centuries.

 

[LTJMP14]

YOU made a blanket claim:
"because a true believer equipped with the Spirit of discernment will see their falseness for what it is "

This statement is FALSE in the context YOU give it - and the tens of thousands of disjointed and perpetually-splintering Protestant factions that ALL teach competing doctrines are AMPLE evidence of this.

Those who are equipped with the Spirit of discernment are those faithful members of Christ's Church - and NOT rebellious dissidents.

You cannot rebel against Christ's Church and think you're still on His side.
He equates His very SELF with His Church (Acts 9:4-5).

Except the Roman catholic church is not Christ's Church. The Roman catholic church is apostate, in ecumenical league with other apostates.