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David Lamb

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Was that YES those verses apply to you or NO they don't ?

Mk 16:17-18
17And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
It was almost a no. By that, I mean that I fully believe that God still works miracles (after all, every time a sinner is born again, that's a great miracle), and He can save me from dying/harm if I drink poison, for example. I do not believe that every Christian is automatically guaranteed all these things. We have the example of Paul and Timothy. Timothy clearly suffered from some stomach disorder, but we are not told that Paul laid his hands on Timothy and healed him. Rather, we read of Paul telling Timothy:

NKJV 1Ti 5:23 No longer drink only water, but use a little wine for your stomach's sake and your frequent infirmities.
 

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It was almost a no. By that, I mean that I fully believe that God still works miracles (after all, every time a sinner is born again, that's a great miracle), and He can save me from dying/harm if I drink poison, for example. I do not believe that every Christian is automatically guaranteed all these things. We have the example of Paul and Timothy. Timothy clearly suffered from some stomach disorder, but we are not told that Paul laid his hands on Timothy and healed him. Rather, we read of Paul telling Timothy:

NKJV 1Ti 5:23 No longer drink only water, but use a little wine for your stomach's sake and your frequent infirmities.
The verses teach THEM THAT BELIEVE
You are a believer so drink a deadly thing & let me know how you go :)


17And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
 

David Lamb

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The verses teach THEM THAT BELIEVE
You are a believer so drink a deadly thing & let me know how you go :)


17And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
I have already stated what I believe on that matter, that it was a confirmatory sign of the message preached. Even for those early Christians, it wasn't a carte blanche that meant they could deliberately drink poison without suffering harm