The problem with the Bible alone!

[LTJMP14]

First of all, Einstein - ALL churches in the U.S. are 501(c)(3) entities.
It's a shame that your ignorance doesn't stop with the Scriptures .

As for this alleged Catholic "parish" you speak of - I am convinced by the dishonesty of all of your other posts - that this one amount to the same manure as the others . . .

My church is not a 501(c)(3) org. We are like the first century ekklesia giving to the government what it requires and to God all the glory. We operate openly, and we're not afraid to call evil out, like Biden and Cuomo and Pelosi and the EU and the RCC and others. We teach thd absolute truth of God's word without compromising it with outside sources as do the SDA, LDS, RCC, JW's, et alia. We support ourselves and we support others. So, no, sunshine: not all churches in the USA are government controlled like the RCC.

 

[LTJMP14]

I agree with you.
The Catholic Church is Christ's Church.

I'm not even sure what the "Roman" Ca6tholic Church is . . .

How are you saved, @BreadOfLife?

 

[Ferris Bueller]

The fact that YOU remind me of Judas is an "admission" of guilt??

No. You were trying to justify the Catholic church's riches.

 

[amigo de christo]

Let no man , woman or child enter into covenant with any institution of falsehoods .
Stand firm in Christ to the end . There is a huge push for the CC to get every denonmination under it
as well as the other religoins . She done sold out and is in it for power and control . DO NOT enter into her convenant .

 

[David in NJ]

Pretty confidant Jesus' puts the Word of God in a Converted man....not the jibber jabber, dogmas, catechism, traditions of men.

lol x100 , jibber jabber = that's my line and don't forget -all i hear is blah blah blah - lol - thank you, still laughing

 

[Taken]

Great - now, show me where the BIBLE says that . . .

Matt 24:
[35] Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my (GODS) words shall not pass away.

Isa 40:
[8] ... the word of our (MY) God shall stand for ever.

2 Pet 1:
[25] ...the word of the (MY) Lord endureth for ever.

Prov 30:
[5] Every word of God is pure...

John 1:
[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God , and the Word was God.

2 Tim 3:
[16] All SCRIPTURE is given by inspiration of God, and IS profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

** Do reveal, what YOU TRUST IS MORE SUFFICIANT than Gods Word.

 

[rockytopva]

First of all, Einstein - ALL churches in the U.S. are 501(c)(3) entities.
It's a shame that your ignorance doesn't stop with the Scriptures .

As for this alleged Catholic "parish" you speak of - I am convinced by the dishonesty of all of your other posts - that this one amount to the same manure as the others . . .

Speaking of Einstein

Mass (m) = Energy (E/c2) And there are three varieties...

Natural E/c2 - All mass is basically cooled plasma, the sun is the visible form of E/c2
Mental E/c2 - Our thinking can produce creativeness, light, and good things
Spiritual E/c2 - E (motivation, warmth, love) / c2 (faith, hope, charity, joy)

Off to an independent church where the worship is not too bad. I do visit different churches as long as they are in the word…

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Christ's Church is a VISIBLE, MONOLITHC entity (Matt. 5:14).

Christ's church is not a building. Christ's church is not a congregation because it invariably is going to be full of unbelievers. Christ's church is not an organization of religious leaders because it, too, will invariably be full of unbelievers. Christ's church is composed of the true believers dispersed among all the fake, hypocritical believers and leaders in our church buildings. Unless you can identify all the true believers and gather them together for a group photo you're not going to see Christ's church. You'll only be able to see individual people in Christ's church.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Your sect - and the tens of thousands of perpetually-splintering Protestant sects began to germinate in the 16th century.

I really HATE to be the bearer of bad news - but Christ's Church was built 2000 years ago - and your Protestant Fathers broke away from it.

The true church is the sum total of all genuine believers. The congregation of true believers has always existed. It didn't begin in either 325 or 1517. Paul warned very early on that savage wolves would come into the church to distort the truth:

"...savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number, men will rise up and distort the truth to draw away disciples after them." Acts 20:29-30
​

The Catholic church is the first well known, organized distortion of the truth designed to draw disciples away from the leadership of Christ and his faithful ministers and to the control and oppression of greedy, Spirit-less, carnal leadership. Fallen men are always trying to insert themselves between true believers and God. The true church of Christ remains intact despite the efforts of these blind guides.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

John was talking about those WITHIN the Body of Christ

Gee, really? Lol.

You're not doing very well with this, lol. You can't explain why John says we don't need anyone to tell us what teachings are truth and which ones are not, while the Catholic church says you need them to know what is true and what is not.

This has nothing to do with the church needing or not needing teachers. So don't even bother going down that road....again. It's about the ability of the true believer to discern what is true and what is not. God's people are no longer at the mercy of leaders (i.e. the Pharisees) to tell them which teachings are true and which are not. The Catholic church does not believe John. It says you need them to tell you which teachings are true and which ones are not.

 

[David in NJ]

First of all, Einstein - ALL churches in the U.S. are 501(c)(3) entities.
It's a shame that your ignorance doesn't stop with the Scriptures .

As for this alleged Catholic "parish" you speak of - I am convinced by the dishonesty of all of your other posts - that this one amount to the same manure as the others . . .

Hey

The true church is the sum total of all genuine believers. The congregation of true believers has always existed. It didn't begin in either 325 or 1517. Paul warned very early on that savage wolves would come into the church to distort the truth:

"...savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number, men will rise up and distort the truth to draw away disciples after them." Acts 20:29-30
​

The Catholic church is the first well known, organized distortion of the truth designed to draw disciples away from the leadership of Christ and his faithful ministers and to the control and oppression of greedy, Spirit-less, carnal leadership. Fallen men are always trying to insert themselves between true believers and God. The true church of Christ remains intact despite the efforts of these blind guides.

Every false doctrine and error was 'Birthed' into Christianity when the Paul and the other Apostles left this earth = Acts 20

 

[Ferris Bueller]

The fact that YOU remind me of Judas is an "admission" of guilt??
Try explaining THAT one . . .

I did already. But it went right over your head.
If the charge of the Catholic church holding back exorbitant wealth for itself was not true you would address that, not tell me I sound like Judas, lol.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

And you'd be WRONG.
Jesus didn't build His church in the 16th century.
Your Protestant Fathers divorced themselves from His Church in the 16th century.

YOU are their legacy . . .

I belong to the church of believers described in the Bible, not to the corrupt institutions of fallen men. I am a Bible Christian—the Bible composed and written long before the formation of a corrupt Catholic priesthood, with it's meaningless and misguided rituals and ceremonies and rules that says only it is able to tell me what is right and what is wrong. Just the fact that they say that shows they are not of God. They don't seem to know that John said true believers don't need anybody to tell them what teachings are true and which ones are not.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Jesus didn't build His church in the 16th century.
Your Protestant Fathers divorced themselves from His Church in the 16th century.

YOU are their legacy . . .

And you are their legacy...

"I know that after my departure, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number, men will rise up and distort the truth to draw away disciples after them." Acts 20:29-30​

 

[David in NJ]

And you are their legacy...

"I know that after my departure, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number, men will rise up and distort the truth to draw away disciples after them." Acts 20:29-30​

Very few Christians understand this passage of Scripture. They only see it as a 'historical self-contained' event 'way back when'.

They fail to see the monsters of deception that grew from that moment forward to Today.

Today if you will hear His Voice, harden not your hearts as in the Day of Rebellion..........

 

[charity]

The problem with the “Bible alone”!

You can easily see why the false doctrine of the “Bible alone” causes so many problems and why we can simply ignore creeds, councils, dogma, and decrees of the holy apostles teaching infallibility with the authority of Christ!

“Bible alone” is false doctrine
Negates the word of God, apostolic councils, creeds, f, decrees, dogma, and the teaching authority of the apostles!

The false doctrine of “the Bible Alone” is an attack on Christ and His holy church!
Christ and his church are one acts 9:4
To reject the church or church teaching is to reject Christ!

An attack on the holy church and her divine authority!

Even Christ who is the truth itself is excluded!

Scratch these verses that refer to authority other than the “Bible Alone” our of your Bible!

Isa 22:21-22 Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Lk 1:32 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 Jn 21:17 Acts 1:17 acts 1:26 acts 2:42 acts 8:31 & 35 acts 20:28 eph 2:20 and too many more to mention!

Hello @theefaith,

It is the Bible which contains the doctrines taught by the Apostles of the Lord Jesus Christ: Called to that office by the will of God; Whose words are recorded in the Epistles for our learning.

* To call the words, 'The Bible Alone,' a, 'doctrine,' is silly: for it is not a doctrine in itself; it merely points the way to where the doctrines of God, in Christ Jesus, can be found.

* Also who would dream of attacking the Church which is the Body of Christ: Whose 'Head' is Christ, risen and glorified and sat at God's right hand; a position of power and great authority. This Church was not instituted by man, and consists of those whose God is the Lord, and who are trusting in Him for full salvation, rich and free. It's members are largely unknown to one another, not affiliated necessarily to any assembly, but joined by invisible 'joints and bands', by which they are nourished, knit together, and increase with the increase of God. (Colossians 2:9).

Praise God!

* The Bible verses you have quoted, which you say refer to an authority other than the Scriptures, do no such thing. However, some do refer to those who administered God's word during the Acts period, which were Apostles of the risen Christ, and chosen by God to fulfil that purpose: and their words are recorded in God's Word for us to learn thereby:-

Isaiah 22:21-22
Matthew 16:18; Matthew 28:19
Luke 1:32; Luke 10:16
John 8:32; John 13:20; John 15:5; John 16:13; John 20:21-22 John 21:17
The Acts of the Apostles 1:17;
The Acts of the Apostles 1:26
The Acts of the Apostles 2:42
The Acts of the Apostles 8:31
The Acts of the Apostles 8:35
The Acts of the Apostles 20:28
Ephesians 2:20

In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[David in NJ]

Hello @theefaith,

It is the Bible which contains the doctrines taught by the Apostles of the Lord Jesus Christ: Those called to that office by the will of God; and Whose words are recorded in the Epistles for our learning.

* To call the words, 'The Bible Alone,' a, 'doctrine,' is silly: for it is not a doctrine in itself, it merely points the way to where the doctrines of God, in Christ Jesus, can be found.

* Also who would dream of attacking the Church which is the Body of Christ: Whose 'Head' is Christ, risen and glorified and sat at God's right hand; a position of power and great authority. This Church was not instituted by man, and consists of those whose God is the Lord, and who are trusting in Him for full salvation, rich and free.

* The Bible verses you have quoted, which you say refer to an authority other than the Scriptures, do no such thing:-

Isaiah 22:21-22
Matthew 16:18; Matthew 28:19
Luke 1:32; Luke 10:16

John 8:32; John 13:20; John 15:5; John 16:13; John 20:21-22 John 21:17
The Acts of the Apostles 1:17;
The Acts of the Apostles 1:26
The Acts of the Apostles 2:42
The Acts of the Apostles 8:31
The Acts of the Apostles 8:35
The Acts of the Apostles 20:28
Ephesians 2:20

Lovely, Refreshing
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[charity]

Charity said:-
Hello @theefaith,

It is the Bible which contains the doctrines taught by the Apostles of the Lord Jesus Christ: Those called to that office by the will of God; and Whose words are recorded in the Epistles for our learning.

* To call the words, 'The Bible Alone,' a, 'doctrine,' is silly: for it is not a doctrine in itself, it merely points the way to where the doctrines of God, in Christ Jesus, can be found.

* Also who would dream of attacking the Church which is the Body of Christ: Whose 'Head' is Christ, risen and glorified and sat at God's right hand; a position of power and great authority. This Church was not instituted by man, and consists of those whose God is the Lord, and who are trusting in Him for full salvation, rich and free.

* The Bible verses you have quoted, which you say refer to an authority other than the Scriptures, do no such thing:-

Isaiah 22:21-22
Matthew 16:18; Matthew 28:19
Luke 1:32; Luke 10:16

John 8:32; John 13:20; John 15:5; John 16:13; John 20:21-22 John 21:17
The Acts of the Apostles 1:17;
The Acts of the Apostles 1:26
The Acts of the Apostles 2:42
The Acts of the Apostles 8:31
The Acts of the Apostles 8:35
The Acts of the Apostles 20:28
Ephesians 2:20

In Christ Jesus
Chris

David in NJ, said:-

* Lovely, Refreshing

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I am glad you think so, @David in NJ,

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[David in NJ]

Matt 24:
[35] Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my (GODS) words shall not pass away.

Isa 40:
[8] ... the word of our (MY) God shall stand for ever.

2 Pet 1:
[25] ...the word of the (MY) Lord endureth for ever.

Prov 30:
[5] Every word of God is pure...

John 1:
[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God , and the Word was God.

2 Tim 3:
[16] All SCRIPTURE is given by inspiration of God, and IS profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

** Do reveal, what YOU TRUST IS MORE SUFFICIANT than Gods Word.

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I am glad you think so, @David in NJ,

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

When i read your post i enjoyed a most wonderful Breakfast - Thank You

Man shall not live by bread alone but by every Word that proceeds from the mouth of the Father.

 

[theefaith]

By what authority do you presume to speak for the brethren, "we?"

You make claims without evidence, desperately stretching those who walked with Jesus and endowed with miraculous power as a term to apply to corrupt men in councils.

did Jesus found a church?