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An Apologetic Sheepdog

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A lot of people gripe all the time how the rich don't pay their taxes.

Actually, that's not true and never has been true. That's a politically created "fall guy" argument that both the left and right use as needed to demonize the "rich" (whoever they are) while drawing away attention from all the RECKLESS SPENDING (which is the real problem)
 

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He who is a supporter of sin , IS A SLAVE . We have us many slaves . And though many of them may say the name of JESUS
they aint been set free from slavery and rather support and rejoice to do evil . WE have us many problems in this generation .
We have us a major delusion that has been growing as well .
 
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Why do you defend the beliefs you do?
What is it about "your side" vs. "my side" that attracts you?
What is the fundmental belief system of the left vs right?

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I guess we have to fall somewhere in the political spectrum. I admit that my side isn’t perfect but I’m also pointing out that your side isn’t either.
This whole discussion arose because I said “Try living in North Korea if it’s so bad here”.
 
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No, here I’m calling out your way of thinking which is completely wrong and not based on reality.

You haven't called out anything or provided evidence of anything. You are just throwing out wild unsubstantiated words. Lets see you actually prove something. I have asked several times.

You and your tribe are brainwashed by fringe conspiracies and thus resort to violence as seen in the daily news.

The only person brainwashed here is YOU and I'm still waiting for proof of all this "violence" you claim

Yet despite your stupidity and violence we are no way like North Korea and we aren’t slaves. This is the truth.

You like to make up strawmen arguments as you go don't you?
 

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I guess we have to fall somewhere in the political spectrum. I admit that my side isn’t perfect but I’m also pointing out that your side isn’t either.
This whole discussion arose because I said “Try living in North Korea if it’s so bad here”.
We must step back and look at the larger picture . Come ye out of politics and choose neither side .
THEN you will see what the big picture is . Has anyone ever noticed it dont seem to matter who is in power
that the world govt and its goals ALWAYS MOVE FORWARD . THEY KNow how to bait and distract us . Folks need to look
at the bigger picture . BOTH SIDES SUCKLE FROM THE TEETS OF THE WHORE and DO her will . Both sides are gonna lead
all right to the beast . Many will also wear out due to all the strife and fighting , and YET they will go RIGHT UNDER THE DELUSION
of the solution that is to COME . BOTH SIDES are being handled by the dragon . EITHER we pick GOD , choose CHRIST
and make our stand upon the STONE or many will fall into the massive stream of the delusion .
 
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Why do you defend the beliefs you do?
What is it about "your side" vs. "my side" that attracts you?

I stand on the side of Scripture based on my belief and under the current political definition, the "right" is more aligned with scripture ( as in 1 being greater than zero on a scale of 100) than the left

What is the fundmental belief system of the left vs right?

Right now with current ideology as the standard, the fundamental belief system of the left is pure unadulterated evil under Satan and the right is running hard and fast to catch up
 
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Just like you do on every thread because you want to “win”.

Show me the babble and where you addressed all the points correctly and accurately. What posts were they in?

Calling out your BS!

The only BS you have called out is your own and you have done it very well and left no doubt as to the overall weakness and outright insanity of all of your positions and points.
 

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Yes just like your insane ideas of comparing American political systems to North Korean systems where there’s nothing to compare because we aren’t slaves like them in a Godless society.

No wonder some people in your tribe take horse medicine to “cure” COVID!
 

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In the end it isn't really going to matter anyways.
In order for totalitarianism to fully work, both sides will merge.
There will be no left or right. There will only be Government vs. the governed.
Right now, at this moment in time, this is the defining moment.
Unity! Unity!
Will be both sides downfall.
You will not be allowed to question anything, ever again without some form of punishment for questioning authority.
Whether this comes from a Liberal Administration or a Conservative Administration, won't matter.
Those divisions will eventually merge as one.
And as long as both sides of the populous are fighting against eachother, than the true enemy of freedom is reigning in whatever kingdom you reside in. Be it Australia, UK, USA, Canada, Germany, China, Russia...
There will be no argument.
You will comply or die.
Live Free or Die.

Today is all we have to topple tyranny from whatever form it takes.

I don't understand why you both can't see that you both are being manipulated and pitted against each other, for their purpose, not your own.

I no longer affiliate myself with a party. They are both scum.
I am an American because I was born on American soil. Not because my Birth Certificate tells me so. It's just a fact.
But until I renounce that certificate I belong to the USA as a citizen. I am not my own entity. I am not free.
As long as the government is controlling the people, the people are not in control of being governed.
That is what the original intent of the Constitution was to be... I don't think it lasted more than 100 years.

Freedom is worth fighting for. In order to succeed we have to throw off the government that is holding us hostage.
And both sides are pawns in the same chess game.
Everybody needs to wake up.
Not left or right, not red or blue... EVERYONE

They are using us.
And while we fight, they gain more power. They use our diversities against us.

Come outside the box and look and see for yourself.
Look at your own "side" objectively. They both have faults. They both have good ideas.
Neither side is without treason to the people they say they are for.
They are not in it for us, they are in it for themselves.
This is Totalitarianism.

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Yes just like your insane ideas of comparing American political systems to North Korean systems where there’s nothing to compare because we aren’t slaves like them in a Godless society.

Can you tell the truth about anything or do you lie just like the left on everything? I NEVER compared political systems ( that's a flat out lie on your part) nor did I address Godlessness of a society.

You cant tell the truth on anything can you?

No wonder some people in your tribe take horse medicine to “cure” COVID!

Again, what "tribe" is this. I'll say this- horse medicine is better than the BULL$#!T the left swallows every day
 

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You’re a liar because you didn’t like when I said “try living in North Korea” and you compare the political systems of USA to that of North Korea.

Liar !
 

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Actually, that's not true and never has been true. That's a politically created "fall guy" argument that both the left and right use as needed to demonize the "rich" (whoever they are) while drawing away attention from all the RECKLESS SPENDING (which is the real problem)
So you believe that The Clinton Foundation has paid their fair taxes?
You believe that offshore accounts to avoid taxes don't exist?
We had to bribe companies by lowering the tax bracket to come back to the States, how fair is that to the mom and pop shops that have to pay whatever the government demands? Not like they can just up and move to China and avoid the same penalties.
Rules for thee but not for me..
You don't believe that that is true?

okay..
 
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What is the difference between NK and USA?
I never been there. I never been anywhere outside the US.
Please share
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North Korea is worse than the old Soviet Union. There is no freedom of religion and you idolize the leader of the party.
Anything non confirming to the party line will get you a death penalty or jail.
You can’t criticize the party and you also own nothing. You have no house no car nothing but the clothes on your back. The state owns everything. Also any acts deemed “westerly” like long hair or risky clothes are punishable by jail or death.