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David in NJ

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"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." (John 1.14)
"I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins." (John 8.24)

A brother in Christ, who i know, was being persuaded that the Jewish People who do not know their Messiah were still saved.
Then i reminded that brother of John 8:24 - he quickly went silent and recognized his error - thank God.
 

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Well, at the very least they are quadriarian, I guess. Though they profess to be trinitarian. (How can do that while insisting Mary is God? Can they not count?)

Don't forget the statues of the Roman gods that miraculously became saints and of course the rosary beads for that mind dumbing repetitive chanting.
How many gods/saviors would that all add up to?
 

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sometimes I think if the Catholics said poop stinks a Protestant somewhere would come up with a way to discredit their assertion, just because a Catholic, right or wrong, asserted it. I have much disdain for the Catholic church but if they get something right, well, they got something right! And that's what I think is going on with regard to the issue of the Trinity. The Catholics believed it so we have to disagree with it altogether.
One of the main problems with addressing the errors in the RCC is that they do so much good stuff!!!
 
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A brother in Christ, who i know, was being persuaded that the Jewish People who do not know their Messiah were still saved.
Then i reminded that brother of John 8:24 - he quickly went silent and recognized his error - thank God.
I will speak. The ramifications of what you seem to conclude from John 8:24 make God appear unjust. You seem to be implying that any Jew today who does not know and follow Christ as Messiah is lost. How can you judge hearts from a single verse? This is one instance in which the context reveals that he was not addressing the nation as a whole. Do you not know that the grace of God which leadeth to salvation hath appeared to all men? And that many millions, perhaps billions have never even heard the name of Christ? Yet His blood covers the sins of all who have responded positively to the Holy Spirit, regardless of their cultural or geographical handicap?
 
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I do not understand how people who do NOT think Jesus is God can call themselves Christians.

It's like calling a car a bike.. A Christian is someone who believes Jesus is God. It is the BASIC definition and we even get that WRONG.
 

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I assure you, my friend, that it comes quite easy to them. :)
I just don't get it is all.... If I buy a car.... I expect it to have 4 tires... a body... and a steering wheel... that is what makes it a car.
A Christian is someone who believes Jesus is God. I don't understand this false category of claiming to be something that by default is UNTRUE.

P.S.... I am editing my post... I probably should have added an engine to my description of what a car is... HAHA
 
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I just don't get it is all.... If I buy a car.... I expect it to have 4 tires... a body... and a steering wheel... that is what makes it a car.
A Christian is someone who believes Jesus is God. I don't understand this false category of claiming to be something that by default is UNTRUE.
You are rigid in your beliefs. It will serve you well for now. Have you heard of the stages of faith? We're all always growing. :D

The Stages Of Faith - Jon Paulien
 

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You are rigid in your beliefs. It will serve you well for now. Have you heard of the stages of faith? We're all always growing. :D
I have absolutely no problem with growing... BUT... I do have a problem with people's definitions.
Hi... My name is Addy... I am a hamburger....
 
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and just to prove my point to the EXTREME @BarnyFife

You just ordered a beautiful new couch on Amazon.... You paid almost 1000.00 for it...
Delivery day arrives... and what you receive is an air conditioner.... SEE???
Classifications are for clarification and not judgements.
Ok... I'm done now....LOL
 
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