#1 , why Paul HAD to leave Judaism !!

[dan p]

Hi to all , , here is another proof that Saul , had to leave Judaism and stop being a Pharisee and Law keeper .

Rom 1:1 , tell us why !

Paul a slave of Jesus Christ , having been called an Apostles , LIMITED unto the Gospel of God .

The old KJV uses th Emglish word Separated and I use the English word LIMITED .

The Greek word APHORIZO can be translated , using 3 English words #1 , Separated #2 , Boundries #3 , or by Limited .

APHORIZO / LIMITED is a Greek Perfect Tense , Passive Voice and in the Indicative Mood .

The Perfect Tense means the Past Action with Continuing Results .

In John 19:30 we have just ONE example of the Perfect tense by Jesus .

Jesus says , " it is finished " which is in the Greek Perfect tense .

The Past Action here happened over 2000 years ago .

The Continuing Results are , since then , Christ keeps on saving people PAST , PRESENT and in the FUTURE and keeps paying for SINS without having to go back on the Cross and die again .
This is the Greek Perfect Tense .

The conclusion of Rom 1:1 , means that Paul will never go back and practice the Jews religion again .

Acts 21:21 , shows that Paul was already witnessing to all Jews to FORSAKE Moses and Circumcision .

Rom 1: 1 means that Paul was LIMITED to only preach the Gospel of God and Acts 20:24 to testify of the Gospel of the Grace of God , something That Moses and the 12 Disciple never did .
dan p

 

[Eccl.12:13]

Acts 21:21 , shows that Paul was already witnessing to all Jews to FORSAKE Moses and Circumcision .
dan p

That Paul sure was one confused dude.

"Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that commiteth fornication sinneth against his own body."

Sounds like a law that God gave to Moses to me!

"What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet."

Now where on earth did Paul get this law from? And do you think he told others NOT to covet also?

"And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus."

Sounds like Paul is telling Timothy the OT is good enough for salvation!



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[Duckybill]

Sounds like Paul is telling Timothy the OT is good enough for salvation!

You're hearing it wrong. It isn't. God gave us a New Covenant.

Hebrews 8:13 (NKJV)
[sup]13 [/sup]In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete.

 

[Eccl.12:13]

You're hearing it wrong. It isn't. God gave us a New Covenant.

Hebrews 8:13 (NKJV)
[sup]13 [/sup]In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete.

While this is true, let me ask you....what was wrong with the old covenant?

No..........don't say it.

Let's let God's word tell us;

Heb.8
[8] For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

And who was the "them"? The nation of Israel! So there was nothing wrong with God's laws, they were perfect. The PEOPLE are the ones that broke the agreement!

And what did the New covenant contain in it?

No...let's let God tell us.....

[10] For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

So we now have those same laws that was from the beginning....all but one.

The one that was added!




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[Duckybill]

While this is true, let me ask you....what was wrong with the old covenant?

If it was so great then God wouldn't have given us the New Covenant.

No..........don't say it.

Let's let God's word tell us;

Heb.8
[8] For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

And who was the "them"? The nation of Israel! So there was nothing wrong with God's laws, they were perfect. The PEOPLE are the ones that broke the agreement!

And what did the New covenant contain in it?

No...let's let God tell us.....

[10] For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

So we now have those same laws that was from the beginning....all but one.

The one that was added!

Your argument doesn't float.

Galatians 3:10 (NKJV)
[sup]10 [/sup]For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse;

Romans 10:4 (NKJV)
[sup]4 [/sup]For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

 

[Tehilah BaAretz]

I see that you all have your minds made up so I won't try to add much. I would like to comment on the nature of our Beloved Messiah however. First and foremost I would like to point out that He is not a liar or a deceiver. He is what he say he is. He was born in a Jewish family, raised among the pharisees, circumcised and taken to the Temple for His bar mitzva. Really, a normal Jewish life. He never became a Christian either.
He selected a bunch of Jewish guys and they became His disciples. They didn't even know that it was possible for a non-Jewish person to be saved until Peter had that vision in Jaffa where he saw a sheet full of non-kosher animals and God challenged his incorrect ideas about ritual purity. Jesus met Shaul/Paul and explained some things to him. We don't know exactly what Jesus said to him that day. What we do know is that the new man, Paul, stopped doing evil in the name of religion.

 

[TheWarIs1]

I see that you all have your minds made up so I won't try to add much. I would like to comment on the nature of our Beloved Messiah however. First and foremost I would like to point out that He is not a liar or a deceiver. He is what he say he is. He was born in a Jewish family, raised among the pharisees, circumcised and taken to the Temple for His bar mitzva. Really, a normal Jewish life. He never became a Christian either.
He selected a bunch of Jewish guys and they became His disciples. They didn't even know that it was possible for a non-Jewish person to be saved until Peter had that vision in Jaffa where he saw a sheet full of non-kosher animals and God challenged his incorrect ideas about ritual purity. Jesus met Shaul/Paul and explained some things to him. We don't know exactly what Jesus said to him that day. What we do know is that the new man, Paul, stopped doing evil in the name of religion.

I disagree .Yeshua was born in Judea and raised in Galilee. Pontus Pilate said he was a Galilean.
He was never caleld a Jew ever. There is no scripture saying he was a Jew.
He told the Scribes and Pharasees in Judea that they were not of Abraham or the works of Abraham they would do.
He said they were of their Father Satan who is hte Father of lies and a murderer from the beginning.
That is not a nice thing to say to your supposed ancestors.
He went on to say they were Generations of Vipers., who killed all the prophets going all the way back to Cain.
He was not from the same family as those he called Generations of Vipers.

Judean is a not a Jew but Jews became Judeans and then changed the meanings to Jew

Much Confusion exist today on Judeans and Jews.

throughout the NT the word Jew was mistranslated from Iudaios which should be Juda-ios or Judean.

I realize what you've been taught and I grew up on these same false teachings.
My eyes have been opened to the Controversy of Zion


Act 22:17 And it came to pass, that, when I was come again to Jerusalem, even while I prayed in the temple, I was in a trance;
Act 22:18 And saw him saying unto me, Make haste, and get thee quickly out of Jerusalem: for they will not receive thy testimony concerning me.


Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world:

Everyone should ask themselves how may I be deceived..

 

[Duckybill]

I disagree .Yeshua was born in Judea and raised in Galilee. Pontus Pilate said he was a Galilean.
He was never caleld a Jew ever. There is no scripture saying he was a Jew.
He told the Scribes and Pharasees in Judea that they were not of Abraham or the works of Abraham they would do.

Luke 23:3 (NKJV)
[sup]3 [/sup]Then Pilate asked Him, saying, "Are You the King of the Jews?" He answered him and said, "It is as you say."

He said they were of their Father Satan who is hte Father of lies and a murderer from the beginning.

The NT was written almost entirely by Jews. Are you saying they were of Satan?

That is not a nice thing to say to your supposed ancestors.
He went on to say they were

Generations of Vipers., who killed all the prophets going all the way back to Cain.
He was not from the same family as those he called Generations of Vipers.

Judean is a not a Jew but Jews became Judeans and then changed the meanings to Jew

Much Confusion exist today on Judeans and Jews.

throughout the NT the word Jew was mistranslated from Iudaios which should be Juda-ios or Judean.

Oh gee, another Greek expert.

I realize what you've been taught and I grew up on these same false teachings.
My eyes have been opened to the

Controversy of Zion

But who was it that 'opened' your eyes?

1 Timothy 4:1 (NKJV)
[sup]1 [/sup]Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,

Act 22:17 And it came to pass, that, when I was come again to Jerusalem, even while I prayed in the temple, I was in a trance;
Act 22:18 And saw him saying unto me, Make haste, and

get thee quickly out of Jerusalem: for they will not receive thy testimony concerning me. Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world:

Everyone should ask themselves how may I be deceived..

Romans 3:1-2 (NKJV)
[sup]1 [/sup]What advantage then has the Jew, or what is the profit of circumcision? [sup]2 [/sup]Much in every way!

Oh yeah, Jesus will return to Jerusalem.

Zechariah 14:4 (NKJV)
[sup]4 [/sup]And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east.

 

[TheWarIs1]

[sup]3 [/sup]Then Pilate asked Him, saying, "Are You the King of the Jews?" He answered him and said, "It is as you say."

That should read King of the Judeans.
the Word Jews is a false interpretation based on ignorance and misleading teachings.
And there is plenty for the Devil decieveth the whole world . Rev 12:9


Mat 21:11 And the multitude said, This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee.

Galilee and Judah were like different countries they had been different countries since 930bc.
To live in Judea made one a Judean.
To live in Galilee made on a Galilean.

Judaism was not the religion of the Hebrews or Christ.
Christ called the Pharasee teachings the tradition of the Elders and Christ denounced it said it violated the Torah .

Jews were not Judah but from lower Edom.
Do you research, Believe nobody(including me) without proving all things
That is what we are expected to do.

Read 2nd Kings 16 closely.
It shows Judah was ruling Jersualemn while Jews were in Elath on the Red Sea in Edom .



Luk 3:1 Now in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, Pontius Pilate being governor of Judaea, and Herod being tetrarch of Galilee,

Luk 23:6 When Pilate heard of Galilee, he asked whether the man were a Galilaean.
Luk 23:7 And as soon as he knew that he belonged unto Herod's jurisdiction, he sent him to Herod, who himself also was at Jerusalem at that time.


The same Greek word Iudaios is written here as Judean in KJV proving that an inconsistent translations of the word. Is it Jew or Judaean? They are not the same word or people although Jews did move to Judea.
You don't have to be a Greek expert to see a problem in the Translations once you realize that Judea and JEWs are not the same though there are Greek speaking people that know Iudaios means Judea.

The NT was written almost entirely by Jews. Are you saying they were of Satan?

No it was written by Mostly all Galileans except for Luke who was from Antioch.
The Apostles, the "Twelve", the chosen, were all Galileans except Judas who was a Jew, the traitor from lower Judea. "Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven?

Yeshua Messiach said the Scribes and Pharasees were of their Father Satan. Did you not read that part of scripture?

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

These same people benefit from teaching falsehoods and Yeshua said they are liars.. You still want to believe them instead of Christ?
You're not alone. But it's time to get up form your slumber now.



Rev 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews(Judeans), and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

only Jews have synagogues these days and they like to say they were Judeans and even the entire Israelite people.

The Jews talking to Christ did not even know they Hebrews had been in bondage in Egypt for several hundred years.
Yes most Hebrew people would know that part fo history really well. But not those lying Jews of Judea. Proof?
Joh 8:33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

The knew nothing about the people they claimed to be, Judeans or the Hebrews.
The signs are all throughout scripture but many are blind and follow blind guides just as Christ warned.

But who was it that 'opened' your eyes?

Yhwh would be the one. Pray that he helps you to see clearly now.

1 Timothy 4:1 (NKJV)

[sup]1 [/sup]Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,

My Faith has nothing to do with Pharasees or the teachings of Jews and my arguments here do not oppose or contradict the Nicene Creed or core Christian beliefs in any way.
By posting this scripture it seems to be a poor attempt to claim that you are right and since I disagree with you I must be departing from the faith. Shame on you but I forgive you. To attempt this seems to imply that you aren't sure what the Christian Faith is based on.



Romans 3:1-2 (NKJV)

[sup]1 [/sup]What advantage then has the Jew, or what is the profit of circumcision? [sup]2 [/sup]Much in every way!

Oh yeah, Jesus will return to Jerusalem.

Ioudaios Ioud-aios should be Juda-ean

He will return but that has nothing to do with Jerusalem at that time in history when it was ruled buy Evil doers or those of the Synagogue of Satan of today or yesteryear.


Yeshua going to Jerusalem one day has nothing to do with who once ruled it or who rules at this moment.


Ἰουδαῖος
Ioudaios
ee-oo-dah'-yos
From G2448 (in the sense of G2455 as a country); udaean, that is, belonging to Jehudah:

The problems is the way in which the Jew word was pushed in as Judaean.
And the god of this world has deceived many people.

Jew and Judah are not the same.
The scripture confirms this in 2nd Kings 16.



Shlama(Peace)



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[Tehilah BaAretz]

Like I said, I see that you have your mind made up and it isn't likely that I would convince you of anything.
If anyone is interested, many leading scholars here are studying the New Testament and particularly the Gospels with an eye to the usages in the Greek that are better understood in Hebrew. A growing opinion is circulating that the Gospels and many other writings were first passed as oral documents, in Hebrew, before they were written down in Greek. That would make good sense since the chief language of the Bible was always Hebrew.
Jesus wasn't Jewish huh? Not buying that one.

 

[TheWarIs1]

Jesus wasn't Jewish huh? Not buying that one.

Jesus wasn't Jewish he was Galilean.
Pilate said he was. The clues are there for those whom the Lord gives eyes to see.
The truth isn't for sell. I don't believe you can prove otherwise.


Jesus was of Judah and not the Jews.

I already showed where 2nd Kings proves Jews were of Edom.
Some Jews have even admitted it but others wont since the land is to be gained.


Rev 2:9 I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Judeans, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Christ never had nothing nice to say about those people you claim he was related to.

The Aramaic was the language of Christ and his disciples/ Its close to Hebrew but not the same and even further away from the Babylonian Hebrew the Jews have brought to the world.

 

[Duckybill]

That should read King of the Judeans.
the Word Jews is a false interpretation based on ignorance and misleading teachings.
And there is plenty for the Devil decieveth the whole world . Rev 12:9

Luke 23:3 (NKJV)
[sup]3 [/sup]Then Pilate asked Him, saying, "Are You the King of the Jews?" He answered him and said, "It is as you say."

Luke 23:3 (NIV)
[sup]3 [/sup]So Pilate asked Jesus, "Are you the king of the Jews?" "Yes, it is as you say," Jesus replied.

Luke 23:3 (NASB)
[sup]3 [/sup]So Pilate asked Him, saying, "Are You the King of the Jews?" And He answered him and said, "It is as you say."

Luke 23:3 (ASV)
[sup]3 [/sup]And Pilate asked him, saying, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answered him and said, Thou sayest.

Luke 23:3 (AMP)
[sup]3 [/sup]So Pilate asked Him, Are You the King of the Jews? And He answered him, [It is just as] you say. [I AM.]

Luke 23:3 (MontgomeryNT)
[sup]3 [/sup]Then Pilate asked him, "Are you the King of the Jews?" And he answered him saying, "Certainly I am."

Luke 23:3 (GW)
[sup]3 [/sup]Pilate asked him, “Are you the king of the Jews?” “Yes, I am,” Jesus answered.

Luke 23:3 (MaceNT)
[sup]3 [/sup]then Pilate ask'd him, art thou the king of the Jews? Jesus answer'd him, 'tis as you say.

Romans 3:1-2 (NKJV)

He will return but that has nothing to do with Jerusalem at that time in history when it was ruled buy Evil doers or those of the Synagogue of Satan of today or yesteryear.

We're talking when Jesus returns, FUTURE. It will be to Jerusalem just as was stated in Acts.

Acts 1:11 (NRSV)
[sup]11 [/sup]They said, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking up toward heaven? This Jesus, who has been taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven."

He will return to Jerusalem and fight against Israel's enemies. Are you their enemy?

Zechariah 14:4 (NKJV)
[sup]4 [/sup]And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east.

 

[TheWarIs1]

Luke 23:3 (NKJV)
[sup]3 [/sup]Then Pilate asked Him, saying, "Are You the King of the Jews?" He answered him and said, "It is as you say." Judaeans

Luke 23:3 (NIV)
[sup]3 [/sup]So Pilate asked Jesus, "Are you the king of the Jews?" "Yes, it is as you say," Jesus replied.

Luke 23:3 (NASB)
[sup]3 [/sup]So Pilate asked Him, saying, "Are You the King of the Jews?" And He answered him and said, "It is as you say."

Luke 23:3 (ASV)
[sup]3 [/sup]And Pilate asked him, saying, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answered him and said, Thou sayest.

Luke 23:3 (AMP)
[sup]3 [/sup]So Pilate asked Him, Are You the King of the Jews? And He answered him, [It is just as] you say. [I AM.]

Luke 23:3 (MontgomeryNT)
[sup]3 [/sup]Then Pilate asked him, "Are you the King of the Jews?" And he answered him saying, "Certainly I am."

Luke 23:3 (GW)
[sup]3 [/sup]Pilate asked him, “Are you the king of the Jews?” “Yes, I am,” Jesus answered.

Luke 23:3 (MaceNT)
[sup]3 [/sup]then Pilate ask'd him, art thou the king of the Jews? Jesus answer'd him, 'tis as you say.



We're talking when Jesus returns, FUTURE. It will be to Jerusalem just as was stated in Acts.

Acts 1:11 (NRSV)
[sup]11 [/sup]They said, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking up toward heaven? This Jesus, who has been taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven."

He will return to Jerusalem and fight against Israel's enemies. Are you their enemy?

Zechariah 14:4 (NKJV)
[sup]4 [/sup]And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east.

No offense but you're not comprehending what I've said. Pointing out that Yeshua will return to Jerusalem is pointless.
There is no reason to believe he won't return to Gods Holy city.


If you leave all the modern translations alone and go hunt the original scriptures and even look at Strongs for the actual word they used you will find that JEW in most every instance should be Judean...

Here is the actual word translated from the Aramaic Peshi-tta which I beleive its the original NT writings of the apostles.


Joh 4:9 Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew,(Yehudean)


Take a look
It plainly reads Yehudean instead of Jew.
Yehudean is Judean


The Peshi-ta consistently calls them the Yehudean and not Jew


Ἰουδαῖος
Ioudaios
ee-oo-dah'-yos
From G2448 (in the sense of G2455 as a country); udaean, that is, belonging to Jehudah: - of Juda.
Jew was added because of confusion and lack of knowledge.


Iuda-ias means Juda-ean

IAS means pretaining to, typically a region

Galilee, Judea, Perea and Samaria were all Regions

Ezr 5:8 Be it known unto the king, that we went into the province of Judea,
Now people thin it was changed to District of Jews instead of Judea? Nonsense

Once you realize and I can prove it to you that JEWs were not Judeans then you will start to see where the confusion lies and you will start to make sense of Why Christ jumped all over the Jewish Pharasee when they came around.
He was extremely harsh with these people and they was never a claim that he was a Jew other than the mistranslated "King of the Jews" saying. Should have been "King of Judea"


Mat 2:1 Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea

43 times Judaea comes up in the NT

The only difference is the 'S' on the end
Ioudaia
ee-oo-dah'-yah
Feminine of G2453 (with G1093 implied); the Judaean land (that is, judaea), a region of Palestine: - Juda.


Judaea and Judaeans
Should be >
Ioudaia = Judaea
Ioudaias = Judaean

Read 2nd Kings 16 carefully and you will see Jews were of Edom while Ahaz of Judah ruled Judea & Jerusalem


Shlama

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[Duckybill]

If you leave all the modern translations alone and go hunt the original scriptures and even look at Strongs for the actual word they used you will find that JEW in most every instance should be Judean...

All the translators are wrong and you are right? Nah.

 

[TheWarIs1]

All the translators are wrong and you are right? Nah.

Not all the translators. I just gave you a link to the Aramaic Peshi-tta
which was the language of Christ and the apostles who wrote the NT.

There are many who believe the Greek was translated from this Peshi-tta and I think so too.
There is plenty of evidence.

The scripture says to prove all things.


Many of those versions you gave came from the same copies and went by similar interpretations long ago that were misleading because the translators were not that knowledgeable of the Hebrew culture or Greek language.
They did the best they could with what they had.

www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/spiritual/home_study/two_groups.htm
Take a look here.


JEWs are not of Judah, ~> 2nd King 16

See Rev 2:9 & 3:9

 

[Tehilah BaAretz]

My Bible says, "שיהודי’ which means Jewish. She says, "Since you are a Jewish man." Her intention is to differentiate between Jewish and Samaritan.
Lets work on a basic concept though. "Jewish" is a current application of thousands of years of development concerning the definition of a people group. There is a major discussion within Israel on the subject of, "Who is a Jew." The definitions range from bloodlines to religion to genetics and include conversions as well as assimilation. The scholars will be involved in this discussion for quite a while longer.
Now I am willing to agree that we have some very bright folks here but I can't see anyway to accept that any of us has completely solved this issue. That would be way beyond arrogant. Instead, let's see if we can avoid being stupid. Let's agree that this question awaits a definitive answer from scholars who are both worthy of the title and are avidly working toward that goal.

 

[Duckybill]

Not all the translators. I just gave you a link to the Aramaic Peshi-tta
which was the language of Christ and the apostles who wrote the NT.

There are many who believe the Greek was translated from this Peshi-tta and I think so too.
There is plenty of evidence.

The scripture says to prove all things.

Many of those versions you gave came from the same copies and went by similar interpretations long ago that were misleading because the translators were not that knowledgeable of the Hebrew culture or Greek language.
They did the best they could with what they had.

www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/spiritual/home_study/two_groups.htm
Take a look here.


JEWs are not of Judah, ~> 2nd King 16

See Rev 2:9 & 3:9

You have given very little 'proof'. Your basic argument is that nearly every English translation we have is wrong and you are right. Not very convincing.

 

[TheWarIs1]

You have given very little 'proof'. Your basic argument is that nearly every English translation we have is wrong and you are right. Not very convincing.

Yhwh inspired Hebrew men to write the laws and scripture.
English was only a translation of a translation and at times mainly in the NT of another translation, according to some.
Things get missed, misread and changed through the many translations.

To prove all things including scripture you need to go back to the original words written in Hebrew/Aramaic.

 

[Duckybill]

Yhwh inspired Hebrew men to write the laws and scripture.
English was only a translation of a translation and at times mainly in the NT of another translation, according to some.
Things get missed, misread and changed through the many translations.

To prove all things including scripture you need to go back to the original words written in Hebrew/Aramaic.

I have seen this very argument used MANY times when people don't like what God said. So they try to change it.

 

[TheWarIs1]

I have seen this very argument used MANY times when people don't like what God said. So they try to change it.

King James men that interpreted the scripture is who you are believing and not God..
It may be close but it isn't the real God inspired scriptures what were originally written in Hebrew.
Can you not understand this?

God inspired Hebrew scripture, man translated into other languages yet imperfectly.

They try to change what King James men said not God.
You will know know the truth until you investigate the original words used.

You're not showing yourself to be much of a Berean.

"Prove all things" which you have not and are not willing to do it seems.

I suppose we will just have to agree to disagree.
You're not understanding simple words.

Shlama