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I.O.U

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Biblically speaking, people were to bring their crops and their animals together into one place.
A tenth of what they had harvested or raised during times of special feasts at certain times of the year.
But if the distance was too far or too heavy to take, they could tranfer those goods for money and buy what they needed when they reached their destination.
This is all fine and good until the money changers started making profits and charging people more.

The LOVE of MONEY is the root of all evil.
In the beginning it wasn't so, but greed crept in.
And it just grew and grew and grew.

It needs to be knocked down and get back to the original ptinciple.
The reason for coming together was to be thankful for what good providence they had recieved and to share with those who may have had a bad crop year or maybe a disease in their flocks, or maybe they was sick.

I'm not Jewish. I don't understand fully the feasts days and sabbaths in the old testament.
But I believe that this was the intention.
Covetousness.. wanting something that doesn't belong to you, is the original curse in the garden of eden.
Just had to have that fruit off the forbidden tree.

Today everybody wants everything that everybody else owns.

TAX THE RICH!!

I say, go make your own riches and leave other peoples money alone.
But that's just me.
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How do people actually know what the value of something is. Did the creator of the universe specify some monetary baseline (Like the value of one grain of sand) for us to work from.
 
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Trade, swap, barter...
Today it's whatever the corporation tells you it is. You either pay it or don't.
I remember watching little house on the prairie and Caroline (the mom) would bring eggs to the town store.
And she would trade those for sugar and coffee and maybe some ribbon or fabric to make a shirt or a dress.
Sometimes they would run a credit on the store until Charles (the dad) who worked at the lumber mill would pay it back.
So the price would be set by the mercantile who ordered their goods from other places.
But how much was the value of an egg?
or a piece of ribbon?
How many eggs for a ribbon?
Supply and demand.
I remember another time. They lived on a prairie and grew their own crop. I forget if it was wheat or cotton.
And they went to town to trade in the seed but there was such an abundance that year that the price for the seed went down.
So then again, you had to take it or find someone else to trade with and make a better deal.
Doc Baker would receive goods for his services. Sometimes chickens, pies, invited for dinner.
It was the way the communites worked back then.
Small government and local hospitality.
Ofcourse the church played a big role. People would come together for sunday services and sometimes the pastor would ask the community for help for someone that was having a hardship.
People pulled together. Like in the book of Acts.
Then there was "progress" .
The towns grew bigger, banks took up residence. And people began relying on bank loans instead of each other.
Kind of like government handouts today.
The whole banking system is a scam.
And some people not as generous as Doc Baker would make you sell the farm to pay the medical bill.
It all comes down to the character of people. What's in the heart.
Are you helping because you love your neighbor or are you doing it out of selfish gain?

I determine the value by what's in my pocketbook.
I buy mostly generic or store brand name foods. I can't see paying for the printing on the box. I can't eat it. And it tastes just as good.
I have a couple farm stands around so I try to buy my veggies from them, and a few people along the road who sell eggs.
Have to be careful though.. some people buy groceries from the store and then charge you extra so they can make the profit.
$3.00 a dozen eggs from the neighbor down the road. A bit more expensive then the store. But they have to buy the chicken feed, maintain the coop year round, collect the eggs every morning. And their fresh. They work for it. Not like the eggs you get from the chicken mills where they have machines do it and the chickens aren't free to roam...
So I guess the value is determined by who's buying.
And how much they need it.

It all comes down to supply and demand and whether you want to do business with a fair person or a crook.
In my opinion.

Mat 21:12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,
Mat 21:13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.

Pro 11:1 A false balance is abomination to the LORD: but a just weight is his delight.

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I'm still trying to figure out the Final Fantasy,
welcome to the club
LOL
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I'm still trying to figure out the Final Fantasy,
welcome to the club
LOL
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Final Fantasy is a Japanese Role Playing Game series that is very popular over many computer and console platforms.
 
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Final Fantasy is a Japanese Role Playing Game series that is very popular over many computer and console platforms.
I used to play Evony a few years back. It was cool in the beginning, a lot of people played. But then came the packages to buy and the upgrades. Then people started using bots and it got boring.
They didn't have any music either.
Evony-Free forever
Looks like they have a new version.. hmm
You started with a fort and you had to build an academy and barracks, you recruited hero's and trained soldiers and archers.
And you had to build your castle with all the defences of trebachutes and ballistas.
And then you went to war with another teams castles.
They had a flashing bird that would go off when you came under attack and you had to defend your city.
It was exciting when I first joined. Then my daughter joined. And there was private chat. So we ended up chatting more than playing the game.
I remember waking her up at 1am and telling her her castle was under attack and she needed to give me her password so I could move out her army and supplies. LOL
I forget who designed the game but I believe it was European.

Maybe I'll check out if anything has changed.
I always play the cheap/free version lol
Those packages can get pretty expensive.

:)
 

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Requires Adobe Flash Player. And I have windows 7 and I refuse to upgrade to 10, so I guess I can't play.
Aw well, I would probably get pulled back into playing that like I used to play Farmville.
I can't play games on Facebook anymore either unless I upgrade.
Kind of reminds me of the jab.
I'll just move along then..
anywhoo
 

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I used to play Evony a few years back. It was cool in the beginning, a lot of people played. But then came the packages to buy and the upgrades. Then people started using bots and it got boring.
They didn't have any music either.
Evony-Free forever
Looks like they have a new version.. hmm
You started with a fort and you had to build an academy and barracks, you recruited hero's and trained soldiers and archers.
And you had to build your castle with all the defences of trebachutes and ballistas.
And then you went to war with another teams castles.
They had a flashing bird that would go off when you came under attack and you had to defend your city.
It was exciting when I first joined. Then my daughter joined. And there was private chat. So we ended up chatting more than playing the game.
I remember waking her up at 1am and telling her her castle was under attack and she needed to give me her password so I could move out her army and supplies. LOL
I forget who designed the game but I believe it was European.

Maybe I'll check out if anything has changed.
I always play the cheap/free version lol
Those packages can get pretty expensive.

:)
 
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