An article of faith

[theefaith]

In order to be believed (without error) an article of faith must be proposed by holy mother church! Matt 28:19


19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

 

[marksman]

In order to be believed (without error) an article of faith must be proposed by holy mother church! Matt 28:19


19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

And your point is?

 

[theefaith]

And your point is?

Bible alone is a heresy

 

[amadeus]

Bible alone is a heresy

And what is pronouncing judgement against others? Are you given expertise from God on what a heretic is or is not? Are you led by the Holy Spirit to make a negative pronouncement against anyone? Whose heart do you know so well?

 

[Enoch111]

Bible alone is a heresy

First you quote the Bible and then you say "the Bible alone is heresy". So why did you quote it?

 

[theefaith]

And what is pronouncing judgement against others? Are you given expertise from God on what a heretic is or is not? Are you led by the Holy Spirit to make a negative pronouncement against anyone? Whose heart do you know so well?

i did not say anyone is a heretic!

I said the doctrine of the “Bible alone” as I understand it is False and unbiblical

 

[amadeus]

i did not say anyone is a heretic!

I said the doctrine of the “Bible alone” as I understand it is False and unbiblical

You should say clearly what you mean rather than leave other people to interpret your words. We are like to be often poor interpreters of your thoughts on a subject as you are of ours.

 

[theefaith]

First you quote the Bible and then you say "the Bible alone is heresy". So why did you quote it?

there is a difference between the Bible and the Bible alone!

a difference between the Bible alone as only authority and the authority of the apostles in the Bible!

the Bible is the inspired word of God all not just 66 books

but nowhere does it say Bible alone
Or that divine revelation or the word of God is limited to the Bible

 

[Enoch111]

Or that divine revelation or the word of God is limited to the Bible

Since you harbor such ridiculous ideas, show us where divine inspiration is found -- other than in the Bible.

 

[theefaith]

Since you harbor such ridiculous ideas, show us where divine inspiration is found -- other than in the Bible.

When God called abram, Moses the prophets and apostles!

All that Christ taught the apostles in person Jude 1:3

lk 3:2 the word of God came into John in the wilderness
Did a book fall out of the sky?

 

[Saint of God]

In order to be believed (without error) an article of faith must be proposed by holy mother church! Matt 28:19


19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Why didn't Peter and the apostles obey that command?...
Acts 2:38
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 8:16
(For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
Acts 19:5
When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

 

[EloyCraft]

Sacred scripture is not something that an individual can interpret. Because Scripture is inspired by the Holy Spirit the Church interprets. Peter taught that.

 

[Saint of God]

there is a difference between the Bible and the Bible alone!

a difference between the Bible alone as only authority and the authority of the apostles in the Bible!

the Bible is the inspired word of God all not just 66 books

but nowhere does it say Bible alone
Or that divine revelation or the word of God is limited to the Bible

The scriptures were given to men by the inspiration of God ...The Bible was compiled by men...which means men left out some of the scriptures that were given to men by the inspiration of God.
2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

 

[Saint of God]

Sacred scripture is not something that an individual can interpret. Because Scripture is inspired by the Holy Spirit the Church interprets. Peter taught that.

Scripture is not a mystery that needs interpretation...When you post these things you must back them with the appropriate scripture.
2 Corinthians 4:3
But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

 

[EloyCraft]

The scriptures were given to men by the inspiration of God ..

and...

Bible was compiled by men...which means men left out some of the scriptures that were given to men by the inspiration of God.

So there is some left out? You can canonize literature? Where is it?

scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Ok correction, reproof, doctrine it isn't able to do that or the division would be healed.

 

[Saint of God]

And what is pronouncing judgement against others? Are you given expertise from God on what a heretic is or is not? Are you led by the Holy Spirit to make a negative pronouncement against anyone? Whose heart do you know so well?

His argument is that the "bible alone" doctrine is not scriptural...If you think it is you should post your scriptural argument to support your view.

 

[Saint of God]

and...

"and" is not a valid argument...If you have scriptural proof to support the "bible alone" doctrine please post it.

So there is some left out? You can canonize literature? Where is it?

Why is Jude quoting a prophecy from Enoch that is not in your bible?
Jude 1:14
And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
Where is the book of Jasher in your bible?
Joshua 10:13
And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

Ok correction, reproof, doctrine that of course means any one can intrrp

No, it does not, if it did it would have said that...

 

[EloyCraft]

Scripture is not a mystery that needs interpretation...When you post these things you must back them with the appropriate scripture. Of
2 Corinthians 4:3
But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

When there are so many people claiming to know more than the other this church, that church.

If people struggle to find 'their' church or ,'shop' for a church. That is really hiding the Gospel

 

[Saint of God]

When there are so many people claiming to know more than the other this church, that church.

People can claim whatever they want. It is your duty to learn the truth and teach the truth....

If people struggle to find 'their' church or ,'shop' for a church. That is really hiding the Gospel

If people struggle to find the church it means they are lost. The Gospel is hidden to them that are lost.
2 Corinthians 4:3
But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

 

[EloyCraft]

Why is Jude quoting a prophecy from Enoch that is not in your bible?

I know I'm not equipped to decide that. I have an opinion but I'm not puffed up enough to think I can decide that on my own. Enoch isn't Canon because it's too gnostic. I can understand why that might be difficult for someone who believes Sola Scriptura to discern.
That Scripture executes divine authority.
God doesn't just give every one His authority who wants it. Does he?
When did God ever do that.