Sanctification is an ongoing process

[Curtis]

Our post-salvation sanctification is a continuing process based on NOT doing something, (and not doing something isn’t a work), and that something we are required to NOT do, is commit the sin of sexual immorality, as part of sanctification, to whit:

1Th 4:3 For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality;

1Th 4:4 that each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor,

1Th 4:5 not in the passion of lust like the heathen who do not know God;

1Th 4:6 that no one transgress and wrong his brother in this matter, because the Lord is an avenger in all these things, as we told you beforehand and solemnly warned you.

1Th 4:7 For God has not called us for impurity, but in holiness.

1Th 4:8 Therefore whoever disregards this, disregards not man but God, who gives his Holy Spirit to you.

Thus in your post salvation Christian walk, your works will keep you from heaven - if you continue in works of the flesh (sexual immorality), as Paul warns us many tines - and it’s what you DON’T do that is your ongoing sanctification, which is to avoid sexual sins, aka works of the flesh.

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality,

Gal 5:20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions,

Gal 5:21 envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Understand that being sanctified means living in holiness, and becoming holy is an ongoing and daily process, as scriptures make clear..

2Co 7:1 Since we have these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from every defilement of body and spirit, bringing holiness to completion in the fear of God.

1Pe 1:14 As obedient children, do not be conformed to the passions of your former ignorance,

1Pe 1:15 but as he who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct,

1Pe 1:16 since it is written, “You shall be holy, for I am holy.”


Eph 4:17 Now this I say and testify in the Lord, that you must no longer walk as the Gentiles do, in the futility of their minds.

Eph 4:18 They are darkened in their understanding, alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, due to their hardness of heart.

Eph 4:19 They have become callous and have given themselves up to sensuality, greedy to practice every kind of impurity.

Eph 4:20 But that is not the way you learned Christ!—

Eph 4:21 assuming that you have heard about him and were taught in him, as the truth is in Jesus,

Eph 4:22 to put off your old self, which belongs to your former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful desires,

Eph 4:23 and to be renewed in the spirit of your minds,

Eph 4:24 and to put on the new self, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness.


Eph 5:1 Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children.

Eph 5:2 And walk in love, as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us, a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.

Eph 5:3 But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints.

Eph 5:4 Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving.

Eph 5:5 For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.

Eph 5:6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.

Eph 5:7 Therefore do not become partakers with them.


Heb 12:14 Strive for peace with everyone, and for the holiness without which no one will see the Lord.

Heb 12:15 See to it that no one fails to obtain the grace of God; that no “root of bitterness” springs up and causes trouble, and by it many become defiled;

Heb 12:16 that no one is sexually immoral or unholy like Esau, who sold his birthright for a single meal.

Heb 12:17 For you know that afterward, when he desired to inherit the blessing, he was rejected, for he found no chance to repent, though he sought it with tears.


2Pe 3:11 Since all these things are thus to be dissolved, what sort of people ought you to be in lives of holiness and godliness,


2Pe 3:14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that you look for such things, be diligent that you may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.


Note: without spot, and blameless…] The words are nearly identical with those which describe the character of Christ as “a lamb without blemish and without spot” in 1Pe 1:19,

Those who believe in Christ should be like Him in their lives, and be without spot. The words about being ‘without spot’ are used also by James (Jas 1:27).


James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.


2Pe 3:17 And so, dear friends, since you already know these things, continually be on your guard not to be carried away by the deception of lawless people. Otherwise, you may fall from your secure position.

2Pe 3:18 Instead, continue to grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus, the Messiah. Glory belongs to him both now and on that eternal day! Amen.

It’s clear that our sanctification is ongoing, and our choices in how we live are part of that process.

 

[marks]

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality,

Gal 5:20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions,

Gal 5:21 envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Not just sexual immorality, but envy will keep you from heaven. Angers, rivalries, all these.

Much love!

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Our post-salvation sanctification is a continuing process based on NOT doing something, (and not doing something isn’t a work), and that something we are required to NOT do, is commit the sin of sexual immorality, as part of sanctification, to whit:

1Th 4:3 For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality;

1Th 4:4 that each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor,

1Th 4:5 not in the passion of lust like the heathen who do not know God;

1Th 4:6 that no one transgress and wrong his brother in this matter, because the Lord is an avenger in all these things, as we told you beforehand and solemnly warned you.

1Th 4:7 For God has not called us for impurity, but in holiness.

1Th 4:8 Therefore whoever disregards this, disregards not man but God, who gives his Holy Spirit to you.

To review: in your post salvation Christian walk, your works will keep you from heaven - if you continue in works of the flesh (sexual immorality), as Paul warns us many tines - and it’s what you DON’T do that is your ongoing sanctification, which is to avoid sexual sins, aka works of the flesh.

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality,

Gal 5:20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions,

Gal 5:21 envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

As it says in Hebrews; "He has made perfecvt forever, those being sanctified". God declares us what we are, then makes us whjat He declared us to be.

I teach my classes on sanctification by a drawing.

I draw a block on the board, then inside I add one of my world famous stick men, And tsay to them. We see a block of marble with chips and scratches on it and maybe see a statue inour minds. However God sees that perfect statue and all He is doing is removing the pieces that don't belong.

 

[Truman]

I see my heart as a garden. There is a well in the middle of it. I see the space above the ground as the dwelling of the Holy Spirit, occupying the same space as my spirit. We are one.
I saw (and see) the ground around the well as my soul. As the soul was (and is) carnal, the Lord had been cleaning the soil. As He exposed to me a buried sin, I'd repent of it, and each time I did this, it was like I took a shovelful of dirt out of the ground. I was digging a hole.
After doing this for some time, I thrust the shovel into the ground and was surprised when it hit Rock. My foundation, which had been laid by apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus being the Chief Cornerstone, had just been struck!
The Lord plants good seed (His word) in my heart, and in season, it bears fruit.
The well is a wellspring which waters the garden. From which streams of living water flow. The Lord also cleaned the well out since an enemy had thrown stuff into it to contaminate my water supply. That enemy also had tossed in weed seed.
On Christ the solid Rock I stand, all other ground is sinking sand!
Oh yeah, that guy that's kinda hanging around? His name is Jesus! He's a very good friend of mine! In fact, He's my best friend!

 

[Truman]

 

[Curtis]

As it says in Hebrews; "He has made perfecvt forever, those being sanctified". God declares us what we are, then makes us whjat He declared us to be.

I teach my classes on sanctification by a drawing.

I draw a block on the board, then inside I add one of my world famous stick men, And tsay to them. We see a block of marble with chips and scratches on it and maybe see a statue inour minds. However God sees that perfect statue and all He is doing is removing the pieces that don't belong.

As the scripture says, not sinning is your sanctification - therefore those who live the OSAS deception that they can live like hell, (just as sinfully as they want), and still enter heaven - are not sanctified.

Hebrews 10 is not about OSAS proof, it’s talking about the fact that the once -for -all -time sacrifice of Jesus continues to save those who come to faith in the future, now and forever - with no more sacrifices needed, and that His one- time sacrifice also continues to perfect present and future believers who are being sanctified (not already are sanctified, as if sanctification is not an ongoing process in a believer, but ARE BEING SANCTIFIED).

 

[Episkopos]

Our post-salvation sanctification is a continuing process based on NOT doing something, (and not doing something isn’t a work), and that something we are required to NOT do, is commit the sin of sexual immorality, as part of sanctification, to whit:

1Th 4:3 For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality;

1Th 4:4 that each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor,

1Th 4:5 not in the passion of lust like the heathen who do not know God;

1Th 4:6 that no one transgress and wrong his brother in this matter, because the Lord is an avenger in all these things, as we told you beforehand and solemnly warned you.

1Th 4:7 For God has not called us for impurity, but in holiness.

1Th 4:8 Therefore whoever disregards this, disregards not man but God, who gives his Holy Spirit to you.

To review: in your post salvation Christian walk, your works will keep you from heaven - if you continue in works of the flesh (sexual immorality), as Paul warns us many tines - and it’s what you DON’T do that is your ongoing sanctification, which is to avoid sexual sins, aka works of the flesh.

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality,

Gal 5:20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions,

Gal 5:21 envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

This is a big mistake that is made in modern evangelicalism. Nobody grows INTO holiness. In fact, most people are not even able to hold the ground they were born again to. Just ask people who have been believers for 50+ years.

The only thing we can grow in is maturity...but not purity.

Holiness is a free gift of God that happens when we enter into Christ to be in His presence. Only God is holy. We will never be holy from ourselves.

Now you could say that we grow when we are already IN holiness. And that leads to the righteousness of the saint...not the holiness of the saint...since the saint is already holy by walking in the Spirit.

Holiness is about location, location, location...just like real estate. The kingdom realm of the Spirit is a holy place...it is our Promised Land. And the one who wishes to have it must purchase it by selling everything we have.

How can it be grace if we have to purchase it? Well, we must be emptied before we can be filled.

So many believers have lamps that are empty of oil as per the parable of the 10 virgins. And that is because they are still full of themselves.

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

Wait.. so you dont believe in OSAS?? I agree sanctification is a lifelong process, but how do you know if you are being sanctified. Thats the question.

 

[Truman]

Wait.. so you dont believe in OSAS?? I agree sanctification is a lifelong process, but how do you know if you are being sanctified. Thats the question.

For me, I had to learn how it works, by sitting under the teaching of a team for a week. Then I've had to walk it out.
People believe all kinds of things...if you don't like what someone says, ask someone else. Chances are you'll hear something different.
After chasing all kinds of different teachings, I finally found something that worked for me...and it was followed by signs and wonders!

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

For me, I had to learn how it works, by sitting under the teaching of a team for a week. Then I've had to walk it out.
People believe all kinds of things...if you don't like what someone says, ask someone else. Chances are you'll hear something different.
After chasing all kinds of different teachings, I finally found something that worked for me...and it was followed by signs and wonders!

i will have to politely disagree with your take on this. I do believe that whatever the Bible says, is absolute. But i also disagree with their being so many different denominations/beliefs considering we’re all following the same book.
I am a believer in reformed theology, and i do believe that it follows the Bible moreso than other christian beliefs. And that brings me back to the whole different beliefs yet we follow the same Bible conundrum.

 

[Curtis]

This is a big mistake that is made in modern evangelicalism. Nobody grows INTO holiness. In fact, most people are not even able to hold the ground they were born again to. Just ask people who have been believers for 50+ years.

The only thing we can grow in is maturity...but not purity.

Holiness is a free gift of God that happens when we enter into Christ to be in His presence. Only God is holy. We will never be holy from ourselves.

Now you could say that we grow when we are already IN holiness. And that leads to the righteousness of the saint...not the holiness of the saint...since the saint is already holy by walking in the Spirit.

Holiness is about location, location, location...just like real estate. The kingdom realm of the Spirit is a holy place...it is our Promised Land. And the one who wishes to have it must purchase it by selling everything we have.

How can it be grace if we have to purchase it? Well, we must be emptied before we can be filled.

So many believers have lamps that are empty of oil as per the parable of the 10 virgins. And that is because they are still full of themselves.

The error is yours.

Sanctification is the ongoing process of the daily choice we must make to continue in the faith, to continue to walk in the light as He is in the light, and walk after the spirit and not after the flesh, as Paul tells us and warns us many times that if we choose to walk after the flesh and live in the sins of the flesh, we won’t make it to heaven.

Eph 5:1 Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children.

Eph 5:2 And walk in love, as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us, a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.

Eph 5:3 But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints.

Eph 5:4 Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving.

Eph 5:5 For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.

Eph 5:6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.

Eph 5:7 Therefore do not become partners with them;

It’s too late for anyone to deceive me with vain words, I’ve read Paul’s many, and clear warnings to not be deceived by OSAS.

 

[Truman]

i will have to politely disagree with your take on this. I do believe that whatever the Bible says, is absolute. But i also disagree with their being so many different denominations/beliefs considering we’re all following the same book.
I am a believer in reformed theology, and i do believe that it follows the Bible moreso than other christian beliefs. And that brings me back to the whole different beliefs yet we follow the same Bible conundrum.

Everything I was taught that week is from the bible. The difference between what I'm talking about and what others are saying is that the power of God was manifest through the teaching I received that week. Keep looking...hopefully you'll find what you are looking for. Shalom.

 

[Curtis]

Wait.. so you dont believe in OSAS?? I agree sanctification is a lifelong process, but how do you know if you are being sanctified. Thats the question.

By living a Holy lifestyle, as it says, our sanctification is to avoid sexual sins, which is a daily choice, which is why sanctification is an ongoing process.

Maranatha

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

By living a Holy lifestyle, as it says, our sanctification is to avoid sexual sins, which is a daily choice, which is why sanctification is an ongoing process.

Maranatha

our sanctification has nothing to do with us, but rather the Holy Spirit. If a person claims to be saved, but is still walking in sin, they are deceived and are a false convert. If a person is truly saved, they wont walk in sinful ways. Keep in mind, that roughly only 10% of actual so called christians are actually saved.

 

[Heart2Soul]

our sanctification has nothing to do with us, but rather the Holy Spirit. If a person claims to be saved, but is still walking in sin, they are deceived and are a false convert. If a person is truly saved, they wont walk in sinful ways. Keep in mind, that roughly only 10% of actual so called christians are actually saved.

I don't know who has been teaching the doctrine of "truly" saved but this is legalistic religion and churches all over are getting bound up by religious spirits teaching false doctrine.
We are sinners....period...
“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”
— Romans 3:23 (KJV)
There is none righteous..no not one...
Romans 3 (KJV)
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¹⁰ As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
¹¹ There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

If you say you have no sin you are a liar...
1 John 1 (KJV)
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⁸ If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
⁹ If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
¹⁰ If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Only when Jesus returns will we be free of this corruptible flesh...
1 Corinthians 15 (KJV)
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⁵⁰ Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
⁵¹ Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
⁵² In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
⁵³ For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
⁵⁴ So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
⁵⁵ O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
⁵⁶ The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
⁵⁷ But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Our spirit is reborn of His spirit not our flesh..
Our salvation is by faith not works...
When you can understand this then you have the truth in your heart to speak the truth of His Word concerning salvation.

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

I don't know who has been teaching the doctrine of "truly" saved but this is legalistic

Our spirit is reborn of His spirit not our flesh..
Our salvation is by faith not works...
When you can understand this then you have the truth in your heart to speak the truth of His Word concerning salvation.

you cant have faith without works. If a prostitute suddenly claims to have been saved, yet continues to be a prostitute, she aint saved. Believing will yield works. No works, no saving faith.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

As the scripture says, not sinning is your sanctification - therefore those who live the OSAS deception that they can live like hell, (just as sinfully as they want), and still enter heaven - are not sanctified.

Hebrews 10 is not about OSAS proof, it’s talking about the fact that the once -for -all -time sacrifice of Jesus continues to save those who come to faith, now and forever - with no more sacrifices needed, and that His one- time sacrifice also continues to perfect present and future believers who are being sanctified (not already are sanctified, as if sanctification is not an ongoing process in a believer, but ARE BEING SANCTIFIED).

Well I am a OSAS believer and a teacher for over 35t years a believer for 47 years and have heard very very very very few ever say once you are saved you can live lik ehell. that is just a lie perpetuated by those who have been wrongly taught that you can lose your salvation because believing that means that Jesus did not die for all your sins, just most of it.

I teach holy living with a passion. And I also teach of the mercy and grace and forgiveness of God and 1 John 1:9 applies to believers 70X7 in a day if necessary.

And you lie about the scriptures not sinning is not sanctification. Growing in the image of Jesus is our sanctification and that means we gorw in grace and learn to sin less. There is not one person alive who has reached sinless perfection, nor has there ever ben one who has ever lived, excet Jesus who is the god-man.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

you cant have faith without works. If a prostitute suddenly claims to have been saved, yet continues to be a prostitute, she aint saved. Believing will yield works. No works, no saving faith.

Maybve she is, maybe she isn't. If she does not gorw in grace and leave behind prostitution then yes she may have never truly got saved. but leaving sins is a learning and gorwing process.

I got saved, had no one to teach me, no bible to read and lived like hel;l for the nextg three months still. The holy spirit started convicting me, but I had no clue what was happening with that. The the person who led me to the Lord sent me a bible in the mail and whoosh- I started reading 12 hours a day and started learingin about grace and holiness and turning from sin. So we need to tell others in love if they are steeped in a sin or even sins, with th edesire to rescue them- not condemn them. They may simply not know that what they are doing is even sin!

 

[Heart2Soul]

you cant have faith without works. If a prostitute suddenly claims to have been saved, yet continues to be a prostitute, she aint saved. Believing will yield works. No works, no saving faith.

Jesus tells sinners to come as they are and He will give them rest. There are many who get saved who are bound up in physical addictions and do not stop immediately....first comes salvation, then comes growing in Him through the study of His Word....some are radically changed and others change over time.
Paul teaches us that the flesh is at war daily with our spirit and he discovered a law...(law=what governs the actions of others and cannot be broken).....a law that where there is good evil is present also....the flesh cannot be changed from corrupt to incorrupt.
Peter denied Jesus 3 times the day of His crucifixion....was Peter "truly" saved or was he unsaved...
There are so many examples of men in the Bible who fell from grace....and yet God still strived with them.
How does a person ever walk perfect as Jesus did...without sin.
I have been caught off guard by witnessing preachers commit fleshly sins and still preach the Sunday Morning sermon under the anointing of the Holy Spirit.
One thing I have learned is that He is my Father and He promised to teach me how to walk in His ways....and it is written in Phillippians 1:6
“Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:”
— Philippians 1:6 (KJV)
Don't put a yoke upon believers that He did not intend...Jesus said "My yoke is easy, my burden is light"

It's our heart that will be judged on judgment day...

 

[Curtis]

Wait.. so you dont believe in OSAS?? I agree sanctification is a lifelong process, but how do you know if you are being sanctified. Thats the question.

When you live righteously and repent when you fail.