Tongues

[marks]

Yes, I have kind of left it in the Lords hands for quite some years now……as a lone Christian for so long I figured if I started speaking in tongues they might have actually locked me up !

I could be wrong, but I'm not thinking I'll receive tongues. Maybe, but I believe God has expressed to me that He desires I pray with understanding. That it's better for me.

Much love!

 

[marks]

This is the problem right here..... a born again believer does NOT miss out on all God has for them. This is NOT TRUTH.

Anyways... I will let you guys chew this topic out.... Have fun y'all.

It's not trust either!

Much love!

 

[Truman]

HA.... You did it.... NOPE... they are NOT for EVERYBODY... and using them as a SIGN of being Spirit filled is very dangerous in my opinion.

But they are A sign...then there are the counterfeits!

 

[Addy]

But they are A sign...then there are the counterfeits!

A sign of what???

 

[Mantis]

Thus tongues are a sign not for believers but for unbelievers, while prophecy is a sign not for unbelievers but for believers.

 

[farouk]

Thus tongues are a sign not for believers but for unbelievers, while prophecy is a sign not for unbelievers but for believers.

@Mantis Interesting way of stating it....

 

[Truman]

It's a good test for how someone approaches the Bible. Do all speak in tongues, the apostles asks. Rhetorical question, the answer is no, not all do.

What sort of proof do you think there should be?

Much love!

I don't think that by scripture, they can be proven, or disproven.

 

[Mantis]

So I have said this before, but before I knew Jesus I was in a park hanging with the other black shirts and a group of christian teenagers came to us and started talking in tongues to try to convince us. To me all I saw was a bunch of teenagers making gibberish. I didn't believe at all. Although one person in our group was saved so maybe it was meant for her. So I am not sure what to think of tongues. Now that I know Jesus I see tongues as a familiar language. So how weird is that. It seems, for me at least, it is the opposite of this scripture:

Thus tongues are a sign not for believers but for unbelievers, while prophecy is a sign not for unbelievers but for believers.

 

[Mantis]

@Mantis Interesting way of stating it....

It is scripture!

1 Corinthians 14:20-33
New King James Version


20 Brethren, do not be children in understanding; however, in malice be babes, but in understanding be mature.

21 In the law it is written:

“With men of other tongues and other lips
I will speak to this people;
And yet, for all that, they will not hear Me,”

says the Lord.

22 Therefore tongues are for a sign, not to those who believe but to unbelievers; but prophesying is not for unbelievers but for those who believe. 23 Therefore if the whole church comes together in one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those who are uninformed or unbelievers, will they not say that you are out of your mind? 24 But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or an uninformed person comes in, he is convinced by all, he is convicted by all. 25 And thus the secrets of his heart are revealed; and so, falling down on hisface, he will worship God and report that God is truly among you.

 

[farouk]

It is scripture!

1 Corinthians 14:20-33
New King James Version


20 Brethren, do not be children in understanding; however, in malice be babes, but in understanding be mature.

21 In the law it is written:

“With men of other tongues and other lips
I will speak to this people;
And yet, for all that, they will not hear Me,”

says the Lord.

22 Therefore tongues are for a sign, not to those who believe but to unbelievers; but prophesying is not for unbelievers but for those who believe. 23 Therefore if the whole church comes together in one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those who are uninformed or unbelievers, will they not say that you are out of your mind? 24 But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or an uninformed person comes in, he is convinced by all, he is convicted by all. 25 And thus the secrets of his heart are revealed; and so, falling down on hisface, he will worship God and report that God is truly among you.

@Mantis Good refs..

 

[Truman]

A sign of what???

A sign to unbelievers that there may be more going on than meets the eye. A sign to those who don't have it that there may be more for them than they are aware of.
When I use this gift, my inner man is strengthened, I can hear the voice of the Lord more clearly, and when it comes to interceding, praying for others, leading worship, and doing spiritual warfare, it increases my effectiveness.
The enemy hates this gift.

 

[farouk]

before I knew Jesus I was in a park hanging with the other black shirts and a group of christian teenagers came to us and started talking in tongues to try to convince us. To me all I saw was a bunch of teenagers making gibberish....

@Mantis Good for Christians to try to avoid giving the wrong impression, right?

 

[Addy]

A sign to unbelievers that there may be more going on than meets the eye. A sign to those who don't have it that there may be more for them than they are aware of.

This is shocking to me...

 

[amadeus]

Are they for everybody?

They are for everyone to whom God gives them!

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

Wait… are yall pentecostals the ones running thru the chapel while they sing?? Or is that someone else?

 

[Curtis]

Are they for everybody?

No, they’re not for everybody- they're only for those who believe, per Jesus in Mark 16.

And Paul says he prayed in tongues more than anybody, and told the church at Corinth that they should all speak in tongues.

Maranatha

 

[amadeus]

HA.... You did it.... NOPE... they are NOT for EVERYBODY... and using them as a SIGN of being Spirit filled is very dangerous in my opinion.

Lots of things in the scriptures may be dangerous if used incorrectly. A knife can be a useful tool used properly or a dangerous weapon otherwise.

The very bodies God gave each one of us may be dangerous when we lead the way according to our own carnal ways instead of seeking God and allowing Him to lead the Way.

"O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps." Jerem. 10:23

 

[Tong2020]

Yes, they are for everybody. However, there are two different manifestations of tongues. One is for us all individually, yet does not require interpretation found in Mark 16:16-18 - not no interpretation listed. The other is actually performed in an office of the Church by those with that office. And it MUST be accompanied by interpretation of tongues by someone with the accompanying office. That is why in verse 1 Corinthians 12:30 is shows that not everyone has these offices of the Church for the profit of all.

Another difference between the two tongues is the direction. The individual tongues are TO God. And the office receives messages FROM God for the profit of all, and MUST be interpreted.

Unfortunately, they are not believed in by many people and that binds them in chains of unbelief to the point that the gift is there but not operational. Not unbelief in Christ, but in the gifts. So even though they may have the power of the Holy Spirit and are born again with a nature that hates sin, they miss out on all that God has for them. But they are still saved. Another problem with this unbelief, it spreads to the other gifts, the best gifts. The main ones I operate in are the hearing gifts. I can hear God's voice and am able then to walk in the Spirit, and understand the spiritual interpretation of His Word.

cc: @Tong2020

<<<Yes, they are for everybody.>>>

I do not think they are.

May I ask. Do you also have the gift of interpreting your “tongues”? Do you the speak same tongue when you do, or speak different tongues?

Tong
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[Addy]

Wait… are yall pentecostals the ones running thru the chapel while they sing?? Or is that someone else?

HAHAHA @Lifelong_sinner just wanting to clarify and make sure.... LOL

 

[Addy]

This topic is a hot potato....