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Do you think UFOs and alien abductions are from dark forces?


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LouisWilliams

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Imagine if Earth was the "unnatural" planet in the infinite cosmos...and millions of other planets exist with people far less violent and primitive than our own.

I don't think UFOs or alien abductions represent "real" alien life -- it is nothing but a false phenomenon or an illusion at best. However, I have no idea if most Christians believe in the existence of extraterrestrial life.
 
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Imagine if Earth was the "unnatural" planet in the infinite cosmos...and millions of other planets exist with people far less violent and primitive than our own.

I don't think UFOs or alien abductions represent "real" alien life -- it is nothing but a false phenomenon or an illusion at best. However, I have no idea if most Chrisitans believe in the existence of extraterrestrial life.

I think most Christians don’t believe in extraterrestrials because they always link them to demons or satan. This is pretty common actually.
 

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Understandably so. The alien abduction phenomenon does seem to be a largely distressing phenemoneon. Do you believe in them, though?

Do I believe in abductions by aliens? I’m not sure, but I’m going to say that I only believe that these people experienced something. Not sure if it’s aliens experimenting on them.
As far as extraterrestrials existing, I do believe they might exist and it gives me no contradictions with God, or Jesus Christ.
Maybe the aliens are searching for a creator too.
 
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I think most Christians don’t believe in extraterrestrials because they always link them to demons or satan. This is pretty common actually.
Do they? I thought it was an uncommon belief. Far more common is they don't exist, or are visitors from outer space. Not sure if anyone really believes aliens are invaders. There is the sci-fi trope of the military instigating a conflict with them upon their arrival.
 

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Do they? I thought it was an uncommon belief. Far more common is they don't exist, or are visitors from outer space. Not sure if anyone really believes aliens are invaders. There is the sci-fi trope of the military instigating a conflict with them upon their arrival.

I guess you’re right that experiences vary, but my interactions with over 100 people so far has been that they immediately classify UFOs as demons.
The ufo topic was especially re-ignited very recently with the release of the new videos from the US Airforce.
Almost every Christian I spoke to said “demons” and that’s it.
 
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I hear about these experiences a lot where it involves SRA/MK. There are so many facets to the UFO/alien subject. For me, UFOs were used in my and my mother's (MK Ultra) programming. Our government has this technology, as do other governments, which was obtained from fallen angels.
I do believe there is truth to this.
The more I learn about this the more I think belief in UFOs as the world understands them will be what distinguishes the end times true believer from the unbeliever caught in the overwhelming lie and delusion of the anti christ empire.
 
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I guess you’re right that experiences vary, but my interactions with over 100 people so far has been that they immediately classify UFOs as demons.
The ufo topic was especially re-ignited very recently with the release of the new videos from the US Airforce.
Almost every Christian I spoke to said “demons” and that’s it.
Considering that pretty much every encounter with "aliens" is unpleasant at best and horrifying at worst, they would be evil and fallen from anything God originally created. So why doesn't the Bible say anything about Jesus coming to pay the penalty for the sins of the "worlds"(?) ...but no, God so loved the world (not worlds) that He gave His only begotten Son. In other words, Jesus didn't die for aliens.

We see no mention in the Bible of anything about aliens. You'd think that since so many people have experienced things related to "UFOs" and "aliens" it should be mentioned in the Bible. Well, it is mentioned in the Bible. Everything we need to know is in God's Word. So ...if God doesn't call these "UFOs" or "aliens" ....what else could they be? These are "lying wonders" ... manifestations of fallen angels and their offspring, the demons. This is why ones being abducted can call on the name of Jesus and they flee. That should tell you exactly what and who they are!

Now ....as I've said before, in the world of MK Ultra, these "aliens" are produced in labs around the world ...most that I know of are in the US and in Antarctica. In these labs, cult scientists are mixing DNAs of the nephilim with DNA of animals and of humans.

There are also modern day fallen angels who are cohabiting ....taking women ....and producing new nephilim .....as Jesus said, "as the days of Noah were, so shall it be...."
 
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I do believe there is truth to this.
The more I learn about this the more I think belief in UFOs as the world understands them will be what distinguishes the end times true believer from the unbeliever caught in the overwhelming lie and delusion of the anti christ empire.
Yes! As I submitted my last post, I saw yours appear. It fits in with what I was going to post next....

2 Thessalonians 2:1-12
[1]Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
[2]That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
[3]Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
[4]Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
[5]Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
[6]And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
[7]For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
[8]And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
[9]Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
[10]And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
[11]And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
[12]That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Notice, "lying wonders" ...and those who refuse to love the truth will be given over to strong delusion to believe a lie. This is totally related to the antichrist.
 

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Considering that pretty much every encounter with "aliens" is unpleasant at best and horrifying at worst, they would be evil and fallen from anything God originally created. So why doesn't the Bible say anything about Jesus coming to pay the penalty for the sins of the "worlds"(?) ...but no, God so loved the world (not worlds) that He gave His only begotten Son. In other words, Jesus didn't die for aliens.

We see no mention in the Bible of anything about aliens. You'd think that since so many people have experienced things related to "UFOs" and "aliens" it should be mentioned in the Bible. Well, it is mentioned in the Bible. Everything we need to know is in God's Word. So ...if God doesn't call these "UFOs" or "aliens" ....what else could they be? These are "lying wonders" ... manifestations of fallen angels and their offspring, the demons. This is why ones being abducted can call on the name of Jesus and they flee. That should tell you exactly what and who they are!

Now ....as I've said before, in the world of MK Ultra, these "aliens" are produced in labs around the world ...most that I know of are in the US and in Antarctica. In these labs, cult scientists are mixing DNAs of the nephilim with DNA of animals and of humans.

There are also modern day fallen angels who are cohabiting ....taking women ....and creating new nephilim .....as Jesus said, "as the days of Noah were, so shall it be...."

I’d like to make a couple of comments here.
First is that people are evil too, not just aliens.
Second is that I don’t interpret some things from the Bible literally. Especially Genesis. Because the point of the Bible and the word of God is to show that a creator, created the universe which may include other life forms. It’s not an encyclopedia on the evolution of species, thermodynamic etc.
 

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I’d like to make a couple of comments here.
First is that people are evil too, not just aliens.
Second is that I don’t interpret some things from the Bible literally. Especially Genesis. Because the point of the Bible and the word of God is to show that a creator, created the universe which may include other life forms. It’s not an encyclopedia on the evolution of species, thermodynamic etc.
So in other words, you don't believe God's Word is true. If you want to cherry pick and try to explain some of it away to fit what you want to believe, I'd like to give you a warning....

2 Thessalonians 2:1-12
[1]Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
[2]That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
[3]Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
[4]Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
[5]Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
[6]And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
[7]For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
[8]And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
[9]Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
[10]And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
[11]And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
[12]That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 

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So in other words, you don't believe God's Word is true. If you want to cherry pick and try to explain some of it away to fit what you want to believe, I'd like to give you a warning....

2 Thessalonians 2:1-12
[1]Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
[2]That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
[3]Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
[4]Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
[5]Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
[6]And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
[7]For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
[8]And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
[9]Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
[10]And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
[11]And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
[12]That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

I do have a topic on Bible interpretations here but what’s important to me is that Jesus lived among us and spread his good news on the Kingdom of Heaven.
Many Christians are free to believe what they want in regards to aliens. The existence of extraterrestrial life is not evil to me and it doesn’t contradict or change my faith in Jesus.
 

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Again... there will be a great falling away before the "man if sin, the son of perdition" is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 2:3
[3]Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;


This scripture indicates that there will be a falling away from the truth. And that's what we're seeing. It's sad to see it amongst those who call themselves Christians, yet not believing the truth of God's Word.

The phrase "falling away" is this....

Greek: ἀποστασία
Transliteration: apostasia
Pronunciation: ap-os-tas-ee'-ah
Definition: Feminine of the same as G647; defection from truth (properly the state) (apostasy): - falling away forsake.
KJV Usage: to forsake (with G575) (1x), falling away (1x).
Occurs: 2
In verses: 2


It indicates that there will be a forsaking of the truth. And that's what we see happening on a very large scale.
 

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Again... there will be a great falling away before the "man if sin, the son of perdition" is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 2:3
[3]Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;


This scripture indicates that there will be a falling away from the truth. And that's what we're seeing. It's sad to see it amongst those who call themselves Christians, yet not believing the truth of God's Word.

The phrase "falling away" is this....

Greek: ἀποστασία
Transliteration: apostasia
Pronunciation: ap-os-tas-ee'-ah
Definition: Feminine of the same as G647; defection from truth (properly the state) (apostasy): - falling away forsake.
KJV Usage: to forsake (with G575) (1x), falling away (1x).
Occurs: 2
In verses: 2


It indicates that there will be a forsaking of the truth. And that's what we see happening on a very large scale.

I’d like to point out a common problem here that I see with you and many other Christians I’ve spoken to.
I think you’re assuming that I will or do worship aliens. Let me make this clear for you.
If anyone were to put a gun in my head and say “Deny Jesus or I’ll shoot” I would say “shoot”.
I hope this clears any confusions you might have with “worshiping” aliens.
 
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I’d like to point out a common problem here that I see with you and many other Christians I’ve spoken to.
I think you’re assuming that I will or do worship aliens. Let me make this clear for you.
If anyone were to put a gun in my head and say “Deny Jesus or I’ll shoot” I would say “shoot”.
I hope this clears any confusions you might have with “worshiping” aliens.
You're misinterpreting what I said. I did not say you're worshiping aliens. There are no aliens to be worshiped. lol
But you are believing a lie based on lying wonders, as Scripture says. I'm not going to veer on Scripture and try to mold it to something I want to believe.
 

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I do have a topic on Bible interpretations here but what’s important to me is that Jesus lived among us and spread his good news on the Kingdom of Heaven.
Many Christians are free to believe what they want in regards to aliens. The existence of extraterrestrial life is not evil to me and it doesn’t contradict or change my faith in Jesus.

I think that's a good attitude to have, and I happen to agree with you.

I’d like to point out a common problem here that I see with you and many other Christians I’ve spoken to.
I think you’re assuming that I will or do worship aliens. Let me make this clear for you.
If anyone were to put a gun in my head and say “Deny Jesus or I’ll shoot” I would say “shoot”.
I hope this clears any confusions you might have with “worshiping” aliens.

Another good post.
 

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I don't know if there is life in other places, though it would explain why God made so many other places. What I do know is that my friend and I once encountered a strange being that appeared to be made out of light energy and shortly afterwards, we realized that we were missing an hour of time.
There was another time when I awoke, paralyzed and terrified, with a being that lit up my otherwise dark room. I couldn't even think. Then the word Jesus dropped into my head (that's just how it seemed) and the being, fear, paralyses and light were gone in an instant.
Seven years ago, when I knew my authority, I went outside in the middle of the day and right in front of me, no more than a hundred feet up, were 3 identical discs, each barely covered in a uniform layer of cloud perhaps 6 inches deep. They were NOT lenticular clouds, as I know what they are.
The funny thing is, when I saw them, I didn't realize until I came back in the house what they were. They didn't scare me at all. I've seen a single object and last summer, 3 at a farther distance. If I'd hadn't experienced them, I don't know what I'd think of them.
But becoming aware of my ancestry, it makes sense. They were exiled for worshipping these things. Only One is worthy to be worshipped. And that is the God of the bible! Father, Holy Spirit, Son, rejoice, the Lord our God is one!
 

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Of course. The satanists are the same (at least in doctrine) ....do what thou wilt (or believe what you want). I choose truth.
 

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In American society and culture, sightings of UFOs and reports of being abducted at night aboard flying saucers have been widely reported by hundreds of thousands of people. In the past, when I was younger, I read several accounts of such incidents, and they were quite disturbing, if indeed not hoaxes or hallucinations. I even watched a popular History Channel TV series called Project Blue Book, not too long ago, regarding the sightings of UFOs:

What do you think these beings and their saucers are? Are they a figment of our imagination, actual extraterrestrials, something from another parallel dimension or universe of some kind, or as some people argue, the more popular explanation, and they are simply manifestations of very dark forces preying on humanity's fears and trying to confuse and divide us?

I personally do not believe it impossible that aliens do exist "somewhere", perhaps millions of light years away - but I don't think this phenomenon, whatever it is, is an actual reflection of real extraterrestrial life.

This was a CNN report from only 2 months ago:



Last night I turned on a space documentary for my kids, and it made me think about this. People had no idea how God's creation *actually* looked up there.

I'm talking about God's real life paintings:

best-space-photos-nasa-2014-002.jpg


So they had no idea about this. God held secrets and mysteries in the heavens. He does as he pleases.

If he chose to put insects on other planets, or anything else, he could do that.

As for UFOs, I don't pay attention. Seems like a lot of the UFOs we see in videos look more like falling debris and we shouldn't rule out that maybe some technology is hidden from us and aliens are a good cover up for that.